@manzier said:

Already found this on Wikipedia(your answer is almost word for word too, strange eh?), but thanks anyway.

Thanks Nickers. Thats what I was looking for. It was Donahoe who was in there before Colbert, but I couldn't remember his name.

How many ways can you word the above? Would you like it more in novel form? How about a haiku?

@vagitron said:

Already found this on Wikipedia(your answer is almost word for word too, strange eh?), but thanks anyway.

@nickers said:

I could've sworn that Tom Donahoe and I think the other guy was a Tom or Bill Modrak.. when Cowher came in.

Thanks Nickers. Thats what I was looking for. It was Donahoe who was in there before Colbert, but I couldn't remember his name.

@vagitron said:

Dick Haley, Todd Haley's dad was the GM during the Noll Era and is often credited for that 74 draft. Colbert Started in 2000.

I could've sworn that Tom Donahoe and I think the other guy was a Tom or Bill Modrak.. when Cowher came in.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan/draft.htm

A very welcome change of pace from the intellectual giants wringing their hands over a backdrop of dreadful, snotty tears mumbling "Watkins this, Manziel that, we coulda, we shoulda.....AAAAHHH IM ANGRY!"

@jcam222 said:

That 2011 seems pretty damn good to me. 4 starting caliber players

Yea and we still have all of em, and that was 1st, 2nd, 4th, 6th? Rd so good across the board, heckerts best draft. 2012 a bit unforgivable though, even if it's claimed weeden was holmgrens pick.

@bbedward said:

That 2011 seems pretty damn good to me. 4 starting caliber players

@manzier said:

Dick Haley, Todd Haley's dad was the GM during the Noll Era and is often credited for that 74 draft. Colbert Started in 2000.

@vagitron said:

Curious, how long has Colbert been there and who was before him? And did old man Rooney used to make picks back in the day? cause Im wondering who picked all those HOF 70's players.

@thenew23 said:

Heckert was our best GM since the return... by far. I'm not mad with Farmer, but I wonder what could have happened if Holmgren would've kept Mangini on with Heckert putting the team together?? I know it's speculative and a waste of energy, but I remember the day they announced that Pat Shurmur was taking over for Mangini, and I literally almost vomited in my mouth... I tried to defend the guy, as I always do, but that was a hard one...

Also, the 2012 draft is a head-scratcher. Given Hecker's awesome positive influence on this team, it's impossible for me to believe he had anything to do with trading up for Richardson or drafting Weeden at 22... If you ever saw the movie Draft Day, I can see Hecker being Kostner's character and fat a** Holmgren being the Owner who's trying to "make a splash."

But I keep reading about the "trade down" to get Gilbert, and people talking about the "Browns track record" drafting... Well look at this list, nobody has been given any time to put a team together, and nobody has been our GM long enough to even develop a "track record"... Just because the helmet stays the same, doesn't mean this is the same organization...

Just some thoughts...

Heckert may have been the best since the return, but he wasn't very good.

Haden, ward his first year which turned out good - Everything else about 2010 pretty much a stinker. 2011 we had Taylor, sheard, Cameron, Skrine. Still a bit of average. 2012 is a fail minus a couple like Benji, winn.

We're better off now and heckert wasn't as good as some people believe.

Mangina didn't get a fair shake, but the belichik disciples haven't tended to turn out successful anywhere.

Also, the 2012 draft is a head-scratcher. Given Hecker's awesome positive influence on this team, it's impossible for me to believe he had anything to do with trading up for Richardson or drafting Weeden at 22... If you ever saw the movie Draft Day, I can see Hecker being Kostner's character and fat a** Holmgren being the Owner who's trying to "make a splash."

But I keep reading about the "trade down" to get Gilbert, and people talking about the "Browns track record" drafting... Well look at this list, nobody has been given any time to put a team together, and nobody has been our GM long enough to even develop a "track record"... Just because the helmet stays the same, doesn't mean this is the same organization...

Just some thoughts...

@thenew23 said:

37 players listed:

Ray Farmer - 16

Mike Lombardi - 5

Tom Heckert - 13

Eric Mangini - 1

Phil Savage - 2

Nice... thanks for pulling this together.

I was actually wondering about this the other day and thought Heckert might be either #1 or a close #2...

Then I started wondering what chuckles was up to since his DUI...

Then I started wondering if Farmer could use a "Special Assistant".

Clearly I have too much time on my hands...

What's cool is that:

• Farmer has had such an immediate impact... does not hurt that it also happened to be a positive one.
• Heckert's fingerprints are still clearly visible.

@thenew23 said:

Thanks for that list! Very very impressive. Indeed.

THIS is why all the naysayers who talk and talk about old GM's and their drafts are just spewing idiotic crap.

Cant wait to see what he does next!

Ray Farmer - 16

Mike Lombardi - 5

Tom Heckert - 13

Eric Mangini - 1

Phil Savage - 2

37 players listed:

Drafted - 20

Free Agency - 10

Undrafted - 5

via Trade - 1

Supplemental Draft - 1

For those complaining about the "Browns draft history," remember we've had 5 different people trying to put this team together in the past 7 years...