@ibleedbrown said:

The unflappable Ravens fan! Right on.

I understand you picked up a former FB of ours, Kiero Small. Does your offense utilize a FB much? Some here think it was more of a brain picking move on the part of the Ravens.

We use our Kyle Jcyscyk(sp?) a lot as both a lead blocker an h back or te.

Tbh we probably got him mostly for information lol, but we are thin at te, so adding depth at fb let's use Kyle as a receiver more often

I understand you picked up a former FB of ours, Kiero Small. Does your offense utilize a FB much? Some here think it was more of a brain picking move on the part of the Ravens.

@osiris said:

It'll be tough. @Miami and @NO are the two games that worry me. We can afford to lose 1 if we win at the other, and the rest up to you guys aren't much to write home about - Chargers are reeling and we play at Baltimore, Jags (hopefully not a repeat of both of our games since it's at Baltimore not jacksonville), and the Texans. I'll know more once we face the Saints after our Bye and see how our secondary holds up and if Flacco returns to early season form.

I'd rather the Browns win than anyone except us of course, so go get em!

afcnorthravensfan509 said:

Thank you. I appreciate that.

Well even the Browns forgot to show up against Jacksonville (heck, we laid an egg there in 2011 I think. We didn't get a first down until the last 2 minutes of the first half.)

Bengals I think are done. So scratch them off the list.

Steelers, while impressive weeks before, suffered a letdown game against the Jets. I expect them back in full swing the rest of the season.

If we both go into week 17 10-5, whoever wins that game has a good shot to win the division. If anyone finishes 12-4 that locks it, but the only team with a remote chance is the Browns, and I'm not hating when I say I can't see you guys only losing 1 more game the rest of the season because there are some good to great teams left on that schedule, Colts, Falcons, Bills, Texans, Panthers and of course the Ravens are all decent to really good teams, and 4 out of those 6 are on the road.

So, If we manage to get to week 17 10-5 it'll be interesting. If we fall to 6 losses before then, The division will likely fall to either the Browns or the Steelers. 12-4 likely wins it outright, 11-5 still good chance, 10-6 would only win based on unforeseeable tie breakers.

I've blocked the JAX game from my memory, lol, but that is the only game we lost where we were favored to win. Steelers dropped to both Jets and Bucs, and I'm not sure who was favored in Ravens losses. Steelers do probably have the easiest schedule going forward, so 10 wins looks very possible for them.

I see the floor at 9 wins and the ceiling at 11 for the Browns so yeah, going into Baltimore at 10-5 would be really interesting and possible. I honestly don't see the ravens winning 5 of their last 6 games with their remaining schedule, but you never know. I think it will still be an important game, possibly a situation where Ravens are in a spoiler position.

@osiris said:

Thank you. I appreciate that.

Well even the Browns forgot to show up against Jacksonville (heck, we laid an egg there in 2011 I think. We didn't get a first down until the last 2 minutes of the first half.)

Bengals I think are done. So scratch them off the list.

Steelers, while impressive weeks before, suffered a letdown game against the Jets. I expect them back in full swing the rest of the season.

If we both go into week 17 10-5, whoever wins that game has a good shot to win the division. If anyone finishes 12-4 that locks it, but the only team with a remote chance is the Browns, and I'm not hating when I say I can't see you guys only losing 1 more game the rest of the season because there are some good to great teams left on that schedule, Colts, Falcons, Bills, Texans, Panthers and of course the Ravens are all decent to really good teams, and 4 out of those 6 are on the road.

So, If we manage to get to week 17 10-5 it'll be interesting. If we fall to 6 losses before then, The division will likely fall to either the Browns or the Steelers. 12-4 likely wins it outright, 11-5 still good chance, 10-6 would only win based on unforeseeable tie breakers.

afcnorthravensfan509 said:

So, who so you think is gonna win the division? It seems every team in the division except the Browns have Jekyll/Hyde syndrome.

@tour2ma said:

@ibleedbrown said:

That's right! This board rules. And you are in prime position to be our favorite Ravens fan, but you gotta take the reins man.

Adapt. Say the Ravens are gonna kick our ass. Call my mama a ho. Something.

You are triple digit posts in man. Go for it.

I got no problems trash talking when I feel like my team can back it up. Not so confident this year for week 17. Used to pen Ws next to Cleveland games, now I dread them as Cleveland's been competitive with us really since 2010, and even before that there were close games. Last year you guys won with Jason Campell, so trash talk I will not.

Though, I did have this one liner saved up for whoever "IbleedBrown" is - sounds like you got some gastric intestinal back up going on there.

@hoorta said:

Z ain't ever going to let it go- I have, I've mellowed in my old age. It is what it is.

Is rehashing what happened 20 years ago going to change anything?

We even let Ghoolie back on, though he's on a short leash. I've been moderating this board for over 10 years, and I can still count on my fingers how many people I've kicked off. Most were flagrant douchebags from other teams with the IQ of a turnip, we're great, you suck- one Tampa Bay fan comes to mind. One porno spammer Jets fan- and the other two were smartass ignoramuses who thought they ran this board, after <20 posts. Called me nasty names and dared me to kick them off- so I did.

Idc that people are still so upset. But I'm here to talk football, anyone who comes here in peace to talk football should be treated fairly, not that there isn't normal cross team banters, but again, there's a line. Take your frustrations out on the true trolls that come here. Guys like me just wanna talk football, not play some ridiculous name calling/history rehashing game.

@ibleedbrown said:

Drunken rant rave time. Thank you Mike.

Ravens guy, stop being so damn cordial. If you're gonna be here, play a proper villain.

That's not really my intention or desire. I love football, I enjoy discussing it even with/possibly quite more with fans of different teams. The homerism of my own fan base gets tiresome sometimes.

Look at all the other team villains here.They have thick skin, and know when to turn it on, and know when to pull off, and learn to find the little bit of common ground there is. It IS just the game of football, a game of ground control, Major Tom!

I know when to take my punches and when to dish em. But it's never going to be my intention to troll.

And it IS all in good fun, but you're dealing with a fan base that mirrors its city.

I believe you had a rather rough winter down there in MD last year? That's every winter in Cleveland.

Toughen up buttercup.

I live in PA, originally from Baltimore. Snow sucks. I'm a transmission rebuilder though, so the slick stuff on the roads =$ for me. You won't ever hear me complain about snow.

I don't mind the taunting and normal rival team banter.

But I will not simply ignore statements like calling my team and fans of it whores without responding in defense. I don't attack your team at all. I am not Modell. So while I understand animosity, There's a line on where that should end and basic human respect comes into play, plus basic logic that I had nothing to do with what happened, and what was I supposed to do, just not root for the team? If shoes were flipped and Cleveland received a stolen team I don't think they'd have boycotted it. So what then can I really be judged for?

@the-cysko-kid said:

Z ain't ever going to let it go- I have, I've mellowed in my old age. It is what it is.

@roycerolls said:

You guys just keep shitting and eating it and shitting it back out and eating it and so on and so fourth. I feel like I'm trapped in another Stockton vs. the board argument loop. It's all been said, changing the way you say it isn't adding anything to the thread.

Is rehashing what happened 20 years ago going to change anything?

@the-cysko-kid said:

Shit you can't even get fuckin' banned here basically for anything but directly pissing off a mod. This one guy had to troll the shit out of the board for like twenty years to get banned.

We even let Ghoolie back on, though he's on a short leash. I've been moderating this board for over 10 years, and I can still count on my fingers how many people I've kicked off. Most were flagrant douchebags from other teams with the IQ of a turnip, we're great, you suck- one Tampa Bay fan comes to mind. One porno spammer Jets fan- and the other two were smartass ignoramuses who thought they ran this board, after <20 posts. Called me nasty names and dared me to kick them off- so I did.

This has got to be the funniest Shit ive ever read on here!!!

Its so fucking wrong but its hilarious, BRAVO, Z!

afcnorthravensfan509 said:

Yeah, they are literally the antithesis of this board. Too many rules. I got warning points for calling someone a smartass...

That's right! This board rules. And you are in prime position to be our favorite Ravens fan, but you gotta take the reins man.

Adapt. Say the Ravens are gonna kick our ass. Call my mama a ho. Something.

You are triple digit posts in man. Go for it.

@the-cysko-kid said:

If you say 'ass' on that board it autocorrects to 'butt' so...

lol... damn... that sucks butt...

@the-cysko-kid said:

This board is the shit though that's how we roll in Cleveland. And yeah I have an account on the official ravens message board. (For what it's worth I have accounts on forums for about half the leagues teams). If you say 'ass' on that board it autocorrects to 'butt' so...

Yeah, they are literally the antithesis of this board. Too many rules. I got warning points for calling someone a smartass...

@the-cysko-kid said:

That's fair enough. When I go to the ravens board I don't troll them because unlike many my hate of Baltimore flamed out. I still troll bungles fans.

Cysko...if you've been on the official ravens board, you can understand my shell shock from how things are run there vs how people relate on here. Bit of an adjustment.

@ibleedbrown said:

Drunken rant rave time. Thank you Mike.

Ravens guy, stop being so damn cordial. If you're gonna be here, play a proper villain.

Look at all the other team villains here.They have thick skin, and know when to turn it on, and know when to pull off, and learn to find the little bit of common ground there is. It IS just the game of football, a game of ground control, Major Tom!

And it IS all in good fun, but you're dealing with a fan base that mirrors its city.

I believe you had a rather rough winter down there in MD last year? That's every winter in Cleveland.

Toughen up buttercup.

That's fair enough. When I go to the ravens board I don't troll them because unlike many my hate of Baltimore flamed out. I still troll bungles fans.

Ravens guy, stop being so damn cordial. If you're gonna be here, play a proper villain.

Look at all the other team villains here.They have thick skin, and know when to turn it on, and know when to pull off, and learn to find the little bit of common ground there is. It IS just the game of football, a game of ground control, Major Tom!

And it IS all in good fun, but you're dealing with a fan base that mirrors its city.

I believe you had a rather rough winter down there in MD last year? That's every winter in Cleveland.

Toughen up buttercup.

We all get it, the Grinch came and stole all your shit, and almost all our shit. So we don't like you and you don't like us, and we both hate the Grinch, and everybody hates the Steelers. We have a game coming up against you guys and that's all that matters. By the way, I hope we kick your asses all the way back to Baltimore.

GO BROWNS!

@manzier said:

And Ravens fans need to take a hint and understand:

#1) They are Cleveland fans rivals, therefore many of us dont WANT to be civil or talk football with you. That will never change(hint hint)

#2) We dont care about Indy fans or how they interact with Baltimore fans. Just because Baltimore rolled over and took it in the ass, doesn't mean we're willing to do the same. The reason we still have our colors is ONLY because BROWNS fans weren't taking it and stepped up

#3) We aren't gonna kiss and be friends just because some time has passed. The Ravens(and their fans) can kiss my ass. And I sure as hell wouldn't go to a steelers board and act all girlish because they dont like me. I would expect them to not like me. Thats how it goes.

#4) Finally, If you come here as a "rep" for Baltimore and the Ravens(and you do), then dont try to separate yourself from them. Accept your team for what it is. Stolen from Cleveland. And accept that people in Cleveland still feel the sting. And accept that YOU choose to represent that team here. So, take it or leave. But dont act as if we dont have the right, in our own house, to be angry about it. Or direct our anger toward Ravens fans who like to hang at Browns boards and want us to act as if we're long lost friends.

1. There's a difference between being friends and having basic respect for one another

2. Baltimore did not roll over and take it in the ass, rather the team was rather surprisingly moved in the middle of the night and Baltimore wasn't given much of a chance to fight for anything. It was a different time.

3. It's just a game.

@tml1138 said:

ravens509, you'll just have to get used to it if you insist on coming here. Like Z said, 3 years out of business and 15 years of struggling (of which this year, finally, it appears we have started to get back on our feet). Your fans reaped the benefits at our fans expense. If we are finally turning the corner, that's 18 years. Some have gotten over it, some never will. I say in turn they should be given at least the next 18 years of showing bitterness and resentment towards you and your fans.

Or eff it...let them hate you forever. Like you said, some Baltimore fans won't even call them the Indy Colts. And it's been what...30 years now?

It is a very small amount that haven't moved on from the Colts. And even those who haven't moved on, manage to treat the fans that come onto our board with the dignity and respect that all human beings deserve. It's just football, and to give someone a hard time just because of what team they like (beyond the normal all in good fun kind of riding of one another). it's just not necessary and deludes the quality of online talk forums where the focus should really be on the football.

Not naïve enough as to expect no animosity from Cleveland, but there's a difference between showing disdain for another's team and the actions of the team and then taking it personally and attacking the person themself.