@tour2ma said:

You can put me in the "both" camp. I'm trusting the experts.

Mike

@mudfly said:

me, myself and I...

Ah... the "holier-than-thou" trinity... Been there...

@tour2ma said:

me, myself and I.....the homer in me believes they both can play.....

the last third of the season IMO, will help the FO define the needs for this team going forward in selecting players in FA and the draft next year. but as mudfly just proclaimed: kudos to all so far and let's not give up just yet. there's plenty of football to be played. hopefully these players will step up knowing that their fan base is behind them 100%.

GO BROWNS!!

@mudfly said:

This year they are all screaming about which QB to play, because both show so much promise.

Name three in the "both" camp...

Besides....Im happy with the whole year. Had a winning draft. Had good FA pick ups. Scored big with UDFA's. Scored a good coaching staff and FO.

So, Im not gonna cry about the few things that weren't perfect(or are still unknown). Overall score B+

Hell, last year everyone was screaming about the QB's and how bad they sucked.

This year they are all screaming about which QB to play, because both show so much promise.

The screaming may never stop, but I like it better this way....... B+ again

@miktoxic said:

It's Friday......no time to be serious

@cuwoohio said:

right now our backup is manziel whether some dimwits want to believe it or not.

@walterwhite said:

You're nuttier than a shit house rat if you think they are trading Manziel away for a 2nd rounder when they spent a 1st and 3rd on him.

Well, 3-1=2.

@cuwoohio said:

Would we get a 2nd rounder for Hoyer?

Probably not, why?

@upper-lip said:

You're nuttier than a shit house rat if you think they are trading Manziel away for a 2nd rounder when they spent a 1st and 3rd on him.

@upper-lip said:

Would we get a 2nd rounder for Hoyer?

@miktoxic said:

Yea, like, instead of Spergon Wynn, we coulda taken the guy that went a few picks after him at #199.

@tiamat63 said:

If anything, the success of the UDFA and late round picks means one thing - the best players will play. This creates an air of healthy competition that draft picks and potential free agents will gravitate to.

Not only that, but it sets a standard for every player passed up in future drafts that Cleveland is a place they will get a fair shake. Those guys are like free agents, they get to pick their team.

@walterwhite said:

I hear you, but they must have been confident in the Dansby pickup. We should definitely look at drafting another solid LB next April.

@miktoxic said:

woulda coulda shoulda.

I had the those exact words roll through my head before I scrolled down to your post.

GO BROWNS!

@walterwhite said:

I wouldn't call it a "great draft" just yet but time will tell.

Gilbert has done nothing and is now 4th string. Manziel is a question mark, Bitonio was the best draft pick so far. West and Kirskey have been solid. Desir is the odd man out.

Gabriel, Williams, and Crowell have been diamonds in the rough and great finds.

Pettine is a no non sense guy and great pick up, along with Shanahan. I hated those fucking schmucks like Chud, Shurmer, Romeo, and Mangini. Pettine is a fucking man compared to them.

I like the overall direction of this team and locking up some key FA's in the off season along with another draft class will be huge.

I have to agree with you. I was disappointed with the first round. I thought Evans or Khalil Mack at 4. As for Pettine, I'm more than pleased. I think we finally have a coach and offensive coordinator with Shanny.

@miktoxic said:

Before knowing Gordon would be suspended, Manziel, Sau Filo, and Jordan Mathews.

After knowing the day after the draft, Watkins, Manziel, OL

I'm not physic by any means, I simply stated The Browns could use Mack,

fuck... they could use Martin, Mosley, Watkins, anybody, etc.

i mean hold onto a conviction.

who DID you want the browns to pick? is there a post somewhere? one week it's watkins, then it's mack, then it's the OL. wtf?

@miktoxic said:

I also don't get paid millions of dollars to make these selections and have access to footage and scouting reports NFL executives and GM's do...

@walterwhite said:

woulda coulda shoulda. i swear you must watch every rookie and just be pissed that we didn't choose them. (also don't let me find those posts where you called pettine and crew a bunch of pussy faggots).

too bad there's not a time machine huh? you could travel to the future and see who turns out to be great and who are the flops and then just jump back on draft day and pick gems.

out of every good pick there are prob 4 not so good picks and like ibleedbrown said to judge any of these guys in the first year is just dumb. sure some rookies look like monster picks when they are surrounded by schlubs. who woulda thought carr would be playing better than bortles or bridgewater?

the guy playing lights out tonite happens to be a 17 year vet named woodson.

@walterwhite said:

Watching this Raiders game.

Kahlil Mack is a fucking savage, we could of really used him this year.

We could have anyone that could contribute in the slightest. Spending 2 first round picks on players that don't impact your team in the field at all is not good