@ibleedbrown said:

Shut the front door! You kidding me? Otto was drafted as a running back? Seriously? How did l not know that?

The 40's weren't exactly our current era of specialization. Most good players played "both ways". Backfields were "full". It wasn't unusual for teams to have multiple players throwing the ball.

Otto was a "HB" at Northwestern who passed the team to many victories, including one over Paul Brown's Ohio State Buckeyes. He was drafted to be a QB by Brown's Browns and the NFL's Lions, IIRC.

@ibleedbrown said:

Shut the front door! You kidding me? Otto was drafted as a running back? Seriously? How did l not know that?

Yes siree!

@everlastingxxx said:

when you have dominate lines and the D wins the turnover ratio+ it's pretty much easy to win even if you have a ventriloquist doll back there with an arm.

a baby's arm holding an apple.

Do I think he will? if he minimizes his mistakes the way Aaron Rodgers does (unlikely, but not impossible), i think he's got a shot. Was never a fan; but the fact that some people display their obvious disdain for the kid despite never having started a game yet...meh, he's growing on me.

@nickers said:

Eddie LeBaron is probably the closest thing to a "running QB".. he ran up in to the pocket and jumped up behind the line when he threw the ball.. another interesting thing was Paul Brown drafted a Running Back out of Northwestern .. and made him into a QB.. His name was Otto Graham.

Shut the front door! You kidding me? Otto was drafted as a running back? Seriously? How did l not know that?

@miktoxic said:

Baltimore showed how to deal with Roethlisberger in their first game. The first time he dropped back to pass someone

laid the hammer to him--they got a personal foul out of it but it was worth it. He wasn't the same for the rest of the game

and Baltimore got the win.

@mudfly said:

With the way the NFL seems so enamored by these running QB's, you'd think SOMEONE somewhere woulda come up with a throwing running back by now....

Eddie LeBaron is probably the closest thing to a "running QB".. he ran up in to the pocket and jumped up behind the line when he threw the ball.. another interesting thing was Paul Brown drafted a Running Back out of Northwestern .. and made him into a QB.. His name was Otto Graham.

@miktoxic said:

Yeah, those 2 guys suck

@everlastingxxx said:

like brady and manning?

@tour2ma said:

JB was 4/12 w/ 3TD & 0INT...

The course I took literally forced you to read faster. Mostly it was about breaking your brain's habit of internally verbalizing words...

es-pe-ci-al-ly

one

syl-la-ble

at

a

time

which

slow

you

way

down.

You are forced to "skim read" and trash your comprehension in favor of speed. Once up to speed, then they work to bring back your comprehension. You learn tricks like focusing on first and last sentences in a paragraph, and other spots. Slow down a little for those spots and fly through the in between.

Don't fully recall all my scores, but I started somewhere around 200 wpm speed and 90% comp. After several weeks I ended up around 1600 wpm and same comp.

I learned it as I used to have to read proposed regulations published in the Federal Register. Voluminous and tedious stuff to wade through, but made for speed reading.

Obamacare comes to mind. Remember Pelosi? You'll have to read it to see what's in it. I think they lacked the comprehension part. LOL

I only occasionally use it now, but surprise myself how quickly it comes back when I do. Then shortly after cranking up my speed, I am reminded how exhausting it can be... takes a great deal of focus.

@mudfly said:

With the way the NFL seems so enamored by these running QB's, you'd think SOMEONE somewhere woulda come up with a throwing running back by now....

JB was 4/12 w/ 3TD & 0INT...

@ibleedbrown said:

Anyone know anything about speed reading? Isn't the concept about widening your vision while still being able to focus your attention to the wider content, and recognizing word patterns and stuff?

The course I took literally forced you to read faster. Mostly it was about breaking your brain's habit of internally verbalizing words...

es-pe-ci-al-ly

one

syl-la-ble

at

a

time

which

slow

you

way

down.

You are forced to "skim read" and trash your comprehension in favor of speed. Once up to speed, then they work to bring back your comprehension. You learn tricks like focusing on first and last sentences in a paragraph, and other spots. Slow down a little for those spots and fly through the in between.

Don't fully recall all my scores, but I started somewhere around 200 wpm speed and 90% comp. After several weeks I ended up around 1600 wpm and same comp.

I learned it as I used to have to read proposed regulations published in the Federal Register. Voluminous and tedious stuff to wade through, but made for speed reading.

I only occasionally use it now, but surprise myself how quickly it comes back when I do. Then shortly after cranking up my speed, I am reminded how exhausting it can be... takes a great deal of focus.

@mudfly said:

With the way the NFL seems so enamored by these running QB's, you'd think SOMEONE somewhere woulda come up with a throwing running back by now....

Holy crap that's brilliant!

If you watch Willie McGinnis, Brian Baldinger and Sean O'Hara on NFLTotal Access they called it two years ago before RG3 got hurt. All of them said it would only be a matter of time before defenses caught up to the zone read and the running quarterbacks would have a tough time staying healthy.

Give me an Andrew Luck or a Derek Carr over RG3 and Manziel all day long. Russell Wilson runs when necessary not by design. His O-line isn't as good is year but he's been great anyway. Throws very few picks and knows how to read defenses.

@mudfly said:

Tim Tebow tried that route, it didn't work out so well.

Anyone know anything about speed reading? Isn't the concept about widening your vision while still being able to focus your attention to the wider content, and recognizing word patterns and stuff?

Seems like that would be good training for a QB. Whenever he's eating, or brushing his teeth, or taking a shit, guys should fly in from nowhere and try to level him. Keep him on his toes, really develop that fight or flight instinct.

@logicisforsquares said:

HA! funny but sick and creepy at the same time.

@mudfly said:

With the way the NFL seems so enamored by these running QB's, you'd think SOMEONE somewhere woulda come up with a throwing running back by now....

For some reason, I thought of Robert Newhouse when I read this.

@tour2ma said:

Well yeah that's part of it, but he's slimy somehow. What you don't feel me?

@clevfan4life said:

or whatever you wanna call it when defensive players can't seem to get their fucking hands on the slimy raping little cocksucking fgt.

Big?

@clevfan4life said:

roethlisberger is just big and people don't know how to wrap him up. you have to either knock his ass down physically or grab him by his legs and wrestle him down. he shrugs guys off like bugs.