@miktoxic said:

nope, sorry mik...I gave Gordon the benefit of the doubt his first game. It did seem that him and Hoyer just weren't on the same page. The loafing on sunday is why I'm done with him. And this isn't new either. This was last years shit too that they promised he's gotten out of his system. Guys were seeing this loafing on the all-22 all season long last year. Just nobody talked about it cause when he did get the ball he made shit happen. Problem is if a defense focus's on him and tails him with at least 2 guys everywhere he goes...he shuts down. So much so that by the end of the game they barely need to cover him. Can't have that.

people are so quick to turn on players. having a QB/WR tandem work well together takes time. if anyone saw the post game interview with jordy nelson of the pack last night you'll remember he said that rodgers and nelson have been on the team for 7 years together always working on timing and routes. you think 3 weeks of practice and gameday work with an inconsistent QB will solve those problems? i really doubt it.

yes out of all the receivers i wanted evans but i also wanted gilbert. so i got one outta the two. but going forward we need that same type of tall physical WR that corners can't jump as high as and can't cover.

the browns also could have drafted a WR at 22 but we all know who we wouldn't have on the team now if that had happened.

@the-cysko-kid said:

+2

Not only good for now, but also would be very cool to have in place for next game vs. Buffalo.

@roycerolls said:

Lol, butthurt much? Shorts wasn't proven right, his platform was far more than simply "Hoyer sucks". His platform was play Manziel right now incase we need to draft another first round QB, which never happens.

Cool... would you mind carrying this load at season's end when the latest suspension is lifted, my brother? I've gotten awfully tired...

I promise though that if the "discussion" sees Day 2, I'll tag in, but I do not see him lasting that long.

@westside-steve said:

Just because I'm tired of hearing about him and the fact that he doesn't play for the Cleveland Browns I rename him.....

Twatkins.

lol... well done...

@westside-steve said:

Just because I'm tired of hearing about him and the fact that he doesn't play for the Cleveland Browns I rename him.....

Twatkins.

WSS

That needs to be an auto - correct. Make it happen zombo.

Twatkins.

WSS

He's one of the most gifted receivers in the league.

@walterwhite said:

This is true but at least we could ship Gordon out of here and still get something for him and have a #1 left over. That's how over Gordon I am. Just think about this....the dude should literally sacrifice lambs on an alter for the fact he's still on an NFL team. He hasn't played all damn season long so it's not like he's broken down......and he's still FUCKING LOAFING?? Are you kidding me? Just wtf is dude's problem? He can't run hard off the line for 6 games? We already know he can't block for dick so we don't ask what other teams ask of their WR's. Wayne and Hilton block all over the place don't they? I'd trade Josh Gordon for Reggie fucking where's my social security check Wayne.

@roycerolls said:

Hey fuckknuckle I said any one of the top WR talents, which obviously included Watkins you rubbish little piss flap. If you couldn't see yesterday how Gordon was nerfing our offense than stop watching football. Stop. You're awful at watching football. You stink..you have no idea what's going on. Someone could sneak up and change the ch to soccer and as long as you saw a big green lawn with numbers on it you wouldn't know the difference.

Oh and shorts was proven right wasn't he? I'll be the first to admit I thought he was nuts, it's just a bad game or maybe two...this will right itself. But it didn't. So admit he was right and most of us, including myself, were dead wrong. We should have started Johnny a couple weeks ago. But that one is "true" hindsight given how well Hoyer played early in the year. My point about we had to take a WR in the draft last year was not hindsighting...everybody knew we needed a WR cause we didn't know what was gonna happen with Gordon. Overvaluing the position? ARe you Retarded? <----my bad that's a completely rhetorical question on my part, disregard.

@roycerolls said:

the Retard of Watkins strikes again...

lol... funny, but 4life's not that bad.

@tour2ma said:

Well yeah of course he tried to catch up to the ball when he realized it was coming his way. Had he been on his horse off the line that DB would not have been on his hip either. He got no separation before the ball was thrown so of course he had difficulty pulling the ball in. Fundamentals. Funda fucking mentals.

@clevfan4life said:

Let's all be pretty clear on at least one play....the heave by Hoyer at the end of the game with 35 seconds left...did you all see the mother fucker pacing himself off the line? Had he strode off the line like the racehorse he is he easily runs under that ball and probably gains at least another 5-10 yards if not actually going to the house. We would have been almost immediately in Cunt's theoretical range of statistical probability. (field goal range)

Sorta... did not see Gordon off the line, but a high-angle replay showed him "jogging" for 10 yards or so around mid-field with a DB on his hip. I thought he tried to catch up to the ball once thrown, but could not.

@the-cysko-kid said:

you're right, he's a random event generator. Make from 60, miss from 30 with no wind. Like he throws some dice before running out there. Fuck I rolled snake eyes guess this one is hangin far right.

@clevfan4life said:

We would have been almost immediately in Cunt's theoretical range of statistical probability. (field goal range)

Cundiff doesn't have a range this is the best he can muster

@canton-dawg said:

Bingo! If Gordon is screwing the pooch just to make Hoyer look bad, I really wouldn't want him on my team.

If this is the case it doesn't look good on Gordon, but I'm guessing he has more faith in JF.

Next week I am betting a much better all around effort from Gordon. As long as pettine doesn't actually stick with hoyer.

@tour2ma said:

Oh so this was my Watkins vent 2.0? lols...that's a good job out of you actually. But it isn't a Watkins rant really...it's a we needed to procure a #1 rant because this Gordon shit is back that seemingly no one wanted to really talk about last year.

Let's all be pretty clear on at least one play....the heave by Hoyer at the end of the game with 35 seconds left...did you all see the mother fucker pacing himself off the line? Had he strode off the line like the racehorse he is he easily runs under that ball and probably gains at least another 5-10 yards if not actually going to the house. We would have been almost immediately in Cunt's theoretical range of statistical probability. (field goal range)