<![CDATA[Step One: Win Out...]]>This site says if we win out, then we have an 81% chance of making playoffs.

http://www.playoffst...ownswhatif.html

Here's what I think it takes to get into the post-season, but it's late so...

With a tie in their record, we need Cinci to lose to us plus one other team out of Denver and PTG.

We beat the Ravens and it does matter what else they do as we will have the better Division record (tiebreaker #2).

Looks like we cannot win tie-breaker #3 (Common opponents) with Pittsburgh, if they beat Cinci in Week 17. They would have one more, common opponent win. Besides Cinci they have to win one other game to tie us at 10-6. They are @ ATL and host KC before closing out with Cinci.

So our clearest path after we win all three is for Cinci to lose to Denver, but beat PTG... then we win the Division.

If we do end up tied with PTG and lose that tie-breaker, then we are in the conference pool for Wild Card spots with Miami (7-6), Houston (7-6), San Diego (8-5) and KC (7-6).

So win out and stay tuned...

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@jim_brown said:

no guts, no glory.....pettine is proving he doesn't even have the guts to set his own lineup.....wouldn't surprise me if he continues with home town hoyer, who's proven over and over again he can't cut it in the nfl......

Oh... so close...

Now that Pettine has withstood almost universal pressure to start Hoyer, but has opted for Manziel, do you care to make a retraction?

@tml1138 said:

And sorry, I fed the troll? 🙂

lol... Thanks for the thought, but the genie was already out of the bottle... this time!

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@tour2ma said:

Great now it's another fucking JM thread... and now JM vs. fucking Rothlesberger...

Can't swing a dead cat in here without hitting a JM thread and here's where Vag chooses to post his JM opinion for the 44th fucking time...

Thanks, VAG...

And sorry, I fed the troll? 🙂

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/459195https://brownsboard.com/post/459195Tue, 09 Dec 2014 16:59:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Step One: Win Out... on Tue, 09 Dec 2014 16:55:45 GMT]]>no guts, no glory.....pettine is proving he doesn't even have the guts to set his own lineup.....wouldn't surprise me if he continues with home town hoyer, who's proven over and over again he can't cut it in the nfl......all we needed last week was a first down or two, and he couldn't get it done......the sad thing is that it shouldn't take that much guts to call johnny's number at this point, but i'm afraid pettine is paralyzed by fear and total lack of head coaching experience......i can almost hear him saying "hoyer gives us the best chance to win" and then coming up with some lame ass excuses when we lose yet again......

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@vagitron said:

Hoyer isn't very good BUT what makes anyone think manziel is the answer?

Great now it's another fucking JM thread... and now JM vs. fucking Rothlesberger...

Can't swing a dead cat in here without hitting a JM thread and here's where Vag chooses to post his JM opinion for the 44th fucking time...

Thanks, VAG...

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@tml1138 said:

Didn't Ben lead the Steelers to all wins in every game he started his rookie year? They went like 15-1 that year? So what the hell, why not Johnny? They didn't know what they had in Ben at the time, same as the situation now. We don't know he's the answer, but there's no reason we can't be optimistic in thiking that he is the answer.

If he did, you're forgetting this is Cleveland, where we have a penchant for setting all the wrong kind of records.

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@vagitron said:

Hoyer isn't very good BUT what makes anyone think manziel is the answer? I'm not saying he's a bad qb but he's still a rookie with less than half a game of NFL experience. Its late in the season and its not like he has a cannon. I guess at this juncture it can't hurt but I also wouldn't expect him to set the world on fire, not yet at least.

Didn't Ben lead the Steelers to all wins in every game he started his rookie year? They went like 15-1 that year? So what the hell, why not Johnny? They didn't know what they had in Ben at the time, same as the situation now. We don't know he's the answer, but there's no reason we can't be optimistic in thiking that he is the answer.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/459140https://brownsboard.com/post/459140Tue, 09 Dec 2014 14:58:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Step One: Win Out... on Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:31:38 GMT]]>If Manziel gets in there and wins out (I have my doubts because the guy is a rookie), the city will be in full fledged Johnny Mania.

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Faded said:

Manziel may not have a cannon, but his arm isn't bad. At his pro day, Kurt Warner was there doing commentary, and it was obvious he didn't show up just to gush over Manziel. He was impressed in spite of himself, though. At one point he said ""His deep balls: great touch, great trajectory. If I looked at the starting quarterbacks in the National Football League, 20 of the starting quarterbacks can't do those things."

Manziel's arm is an NFL caliber weapon. Just remains to be seen whether he can hang in, make the reads, and find the guys to throw it to...

The last part will not happen overnight. I am fully expecting more bad plays than amazing plays over his first 16-19 starts. Give him the rest of this season to get up to speed and an off-season to prep. Come in as 'the guy' next year and watch him continue to grow.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/459072https://brownsboard.com/post/459072Tue, 09 Dec 2014 07:33:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Step One: Win Out... on Tue, 09 Dec 2014 02:47:05 GMT]]>PLAY THE MIDGET

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/458967https://brownsboard.com/post/458967Tue, 09 Dec 2014 02:47:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Step One: Win Out... on Tue, 09 Dec 2014 01:09:20 GMT]]>No way we win the wild card there are 7 teams ahead of us either with a better record or tied record and better conference or beat us head to head. Winning the division is laughable as well.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/458918https://brownsboard.com/post/458918Tue, 09 Dec 2014 01:09:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Step One: Win Out... on Tue, 09 Dec 2014 01:05:50 GMT]]>This was not made for Ben Roethlisberger...I think...but you gave me the half a chance I was looking for to use it.

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@vagitron said:

Hoyer isn't very good BUT what makes anyone think manziel is the answer? I'm not saying he's a bad qb but he's still a rookie with less than half a game of NFL experience. Its late in the season and its not like he has a cannon. I guess at this juncture it can't hurt but I also wouldn't expect him to set the world on fire, not yet at least.

We know that Hoyer isn't the answer. And we know he doesn't have to rape girls to get his

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@vagitron said:

Hoyer isn't very good BUT what makes anyone think manziel is the answer? I'm not saying he's a bad qb but he's still a rookie with less than half a game of NFL experience. Its late in the season and its not like he has a cannon. I guess at this juncture it can't hurt but I also wouldn't expect him to set the world on fire, not yet at least.

Because we don't know that he isn't yet. We do know that Hoyer isn't.

This is a damn good football team, If we could just get back to an efficient offense this team would be very scary.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/458891https://brownsboard.com/post/458891Tue, 09 Dec 2014 00:15:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Step One: Win Out... on Tue, 09 Dec 2014 00:08:37 GMT]]>Hoyer isn't very good BUT what makes anyone think manziel is the answer? I'm not saying he's a bad qb but he's still a rookie with less than half a game of NFL experience. Its late in the season and its not like he has a cannon. I guess at this juncture it can't hurt but I also wouldn't expect him to set the world on fire, not yet at least.

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@mudfly said:

it's not a difficult choice if you watched the last 2 games....really...is it?

Well, it's true that Hoyer played poorly in the last four games. And that led us to a 1-3 record that is hurting our playoff chances considerably.

It's also true that a QB change is a point of no return. You don't come back from that easily.

So I'm scared to throw away all the improvements made this season.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/458873https://brownsboard.com/post/458873Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:57:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Step One: Win Out... on Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:51:16 GMT]]>it's not a difficult choice if you watched the last 2 games....really...is it?

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@the-italian-dawgpound said:

Pettine has a tremendously difficult choice to make this week as far as who is going to be the starter on Sunday.

I'm backing him up whatever he chooses. No second guessing here. His choice is my choice.

I trust him 100%.

Ditto. If by some odd chance he picks Brian I'll be behind him. Seems like it's gonna be johnny though.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/458867https://brownsboard.com/post/458867Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:48:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Step One: Win Out... on Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:46:42 GMT]]>Pettine has a tremendously difficult choice to make this week as far as who is going to be the starter on Sunday.

I'm backing him up whatever he chooses. No second guessing here. His choice is my choice.

I trust him 100%.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/458866https://brownsboard.com/post/458866Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:46:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Step One: Win Out... on Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:40:56 GMT]]>yep. It will be a tall order for a rookie QB to win his first 3 games out. Especially against 2 division rivals fighting for playoff spots.

If he does it, he will be the first.

Of course, he IS Johnny Football, so who better to break the mold.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/458862https://brownsboard.com/post/458862Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:40:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Step One: Win Out... on Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:36:35 GMT]]>It's improbable but not impossible. We can surely win out. a challenge I hope the team is up for.

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@jafbf said:

10-6 just won't do it, we don't really have any Tie breakers in our favor outside of the Division.

Lot of Teams would have to falter as well, just don't see it.

We've still got too many problems, I mean seriously, we just started our 4th Center this past week - and our run game showed it.

10-6 can definitely do it, we just need to get there.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/458850https://brownsboard.com/post/458850Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:17:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Step One: Win Out... on Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:17:28 GMT]]>I think the run game opens up with Johnny starting because the defense will be spread out.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/458849https://brownsboard.com/post/458849Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:17:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Step One: Win Out... on Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:13:24 GMT]]>10-6 just won't do it, we don't really have any Tie breakers in our favor outside of the Division.

Lot of Teams would have to falter as well, just don't see it.

We've still got too many problems, I mean seriously, we just started our 4th Center this past week - and our run game showed it.

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