@mudfly said:

Pull the trigger of course. Lol.

@hoorta said:

I see Winston doing the Quinn/Manziel slide on draft day too......he'll probably be available at 22....and well have the pick...then what?

@hoorta said:

One of the ESPN draft mavens said that Winston is a far better pro prospect than Mariota.....taking into account pure football skills....not the off field stuff.

@opal312 said:

Marriotta probably will be the first player off the board. Winston? My prediction is he's gonna sit in the Green Room a LONG- for the same reason Manziel did- off field issues, plus I'm willing to bet Famous Jameis is gonna flunk the Wunderlich- teams put a BIG red flag on any potential qb who can't score at least 20 on it.

@opal312 said:

Who is likely to get Jameis? Or Marriota?

Hard to believe the jags and raiders give up on bortles and Carr yet.

But Jameis is gonna bust so I could see the raiders taking him.

@the-gipper said:

The "race" for the #1 overall draft pick:

Jacksonville 2-11

Oakland 2-11

Tennessee 2-11

Jets 2-11

Tampa Bay 2-11

Washington 3-10

@andruw-u said:

Ok, lets just simplify it and end all the responses.

If we go 3-0, to win the AFCN we need one of these to happen to PITT and CIN:

BLT is eliminated by losing to us in week 17, giving them a 2-4 division record.

PITT is eliminated by one of the following:

- Lose two games (ATL, KC, CIN remaining)

- Lose to CIN (Lose tie breaker to us with a 3-3 division record)

CIN is eliminated by one of the following:

- Lose 2 games (CLE, DEN, PITT remaining)

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If we say PITT beats both ATL and KC, CIN loses to DEN. Then cincy has nothing to play for in week 17 other than knocking PITT out.

If CIN beats denver, then a win at PITT wins them the division (if we beat ravens week 17)

I think 10-6 gets us in, to a WC if nothing else. Can we sweep though?

@bbedward said:

Or lose to the bengals...Division record first over common opponent record. They'd be 3-3, if we win out we'll be 4-2. (Which would also put us over baltimore, at 2-4)

The real drawback is we beat the bengals, they lose to denver (both of which we likely need to win the division, unless PITT loses to ATL and KC, then beat cincy) - they will have nothing to play for going into week 17 other than killing Pitt's chances.

Screw it, I want pitt to lose to ATL, KC, and CIN. Cincinnatti can beat PTG as long as they lose to denver.

Week 17 we knock baltimore into the wild card spot, then we beat them at home. That's what I'd like to see

lol... yeah... now what you said...

Memo to self: If you insist on doing shit like this at 03:00, at least involve a pencil and some paper...

Of course, the NFL has always wished that it would have about teams go 8-8 an another 5-6 go 9-7 or 7-9.

This year it is getting its wish.

@tour2ma said:

Or lose to the bengals...Division record first over common opponent record. They'd be 3-3, if we win out we'll be 4-2. (Which would also put us over baltimore, at 2-4)

The real drawback is we beat the bengals, they lose to denver (both of which we likely need to win the division, unless PITT loses to ATL and KC, then beat cincy) - they will have nothing to play for going into week 17 other than killing Pitt's chances.

Screw it, I want pitt to lose to ATL, KC, and CIN. Cincinnatti can beat PTG as long as they lose to denver.

Week 17 we knock baltimore into the wild card spot, then we beat them at home. That's what I'd like to see

Cinci is 1.5 games ahead of us. We cannot tie them, so they have to lose 2. We have to best them so that's one.

PTG owns the "record against common opponents" tie-breaker and has a one-game lead, so they must lose two as well.

EDIT: AKA pretty much what Chris said...

@gftchris said:

Said that before- the clearest road to the playoffs is for the Bengals only win in their last 3 games to be against the Steelers. Of course Browns must win out, one more loss and the Browns are all but mathematically eliminated. A couple Steelers losses wouldn't hurt.

Chiefs I think can win in ketchup field. If Charles runs wild and Smith manages, it could be a W. And their D still can't be looked over either.

If so, we need (Browns win each week)

Atlanta > Pitt

KC > Pitt

Denver> Cincy

and we control our destiny at Baltimore. The Cincy>Pitt game doesn't matter. Someone check my math please. According to the ESPN playoff machine thing, a Pitt, Balt, Browns 3-way 10-6 tie goes the Browns way (meaning we need one of the Pitt losses above), but I don't know if ESPN's right there.

@the-gipper said:

It was like 34-7 at the half, so I turned it off.

I did other things for a while as well... Came back and it was 34-17... and got even better.

@texasag1969 said:

I have never rooted against Aggie QB Tannehill and the Dolphins before. I will make an exception this week.

Manziel forces tough choices doesn't he?

@jrb12711 said:

The Falcons winning Sunday would help all around: Pissburgh loses, and a possible 8-8 finish for an NFCS team stays alive. Atlanta finishes with Pittsburgh, New Orleans, Carolina.

@gftchris said:

Right. Done.

The Browns situation is clear: Win out and get a little help.

Browns

home Cincinnati 8-4-1

@ Carolina 4-8-1

@ Baltimore 8-5

opponents combined record: 20-18-1

Bengals

@ Cleveland 7-6

home Denver 10-3

@ Pittsburgh 8-5

opponents combined record 25-14

Ravens

home Jacksonville 2-11

@ Houston 7-6

home Cleveland 7-6

opponents combined record: 16-23

Steelers

@ Atlanta 5-8

home Kansas City 7-6

home Cincinnati 8-4-1

opponents combined record: 20-18-1

The Winner of the Schedule game is: Baltimore. Their opponents have the weakest record plus they are home for two out of 3 games. Pittsburgh is next with 2 home games. Their opponents records are nearly the same as the Browns.....but they have 2 at home and the Browns have only 1, plus they do have a game lead.

The Loser of the Schedule game is: Cincinnati. Their opponents have the strongest record, they have 2 out of 3 on the road, plus their one home game is vs. the 10-3 Broncos.