<![CDATA[By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups)]]> Matchup #1

Browns offense vs. Bengals defense

Total Offense (Yds/G) - (353.8) 13th vs. 28th (377.8)

Passing Yards (Yds/G) - (240.1) 16th vs. 21th (247.5)

QB Rating - (76.2) 28th vs. 3rd (78.4)

Rushing Yards (Yds/G) - (113.7) 15th vs. 27th (130.3)

Yards per Rush - (3.6) 28h vs. 21st (4.4)

Scoring - (21.2) 21st vs. 15th (22.2)

Matchup #1 Advantage - TIE

The Browns offense vs the Bengals defense is such a close matchup. If the Browns averaged 1 more point per game, and had a better season-long QB Rating, they would clearly have the advantage in this game. Enter... Johnny Manziel. Will he be the difference? Will his play elevate this offense to turn yards into points? I hope so...

Matchup #2

Bengals offense vs. Browns defense

Total Offense (Yds/G) - (348.5) 17th vs. 20th (360.5)

Passing Yards (Yds/G) - (227.0) 20th vs. 9th (231.1)

QB Rating - (85.5) 23rd vs. 1st (72.6)

Rushing Yards (Yds/G) - (121.5) 10th vs. 26th (129.5)

Yards per Rush - (4.1) 15h vs. 21st (4.4)

Scoring - (21.6) 18th vs. 11th (20.8)

Matchup #2 Advantage - TIE

Yet another close matchup between groups. The Browns D has everything they need to shut down Dalton and Green, but how well can the #26 Rush D hold up against the #10 Rush O?? That is the true question. For me, this time of the year is all about running the football, so how well will the Browns be able to stop it is going to tell the story of this matchup...

Matchup #3

The Formula... Bengals O (21.6) minus Browns O (21.2) = Bengals 0.4

Bengals D (22.2) minus Browns D (20.8) = Browns 1.4

Browns (1.4) minus Bengals (0.4) = Browns 1

Matchup #3 Scoring Advantage - Browns +1 point

These teams are so close in their scoring that it's hard to pick a winner, but the simple math equation tells the story. The Browns win by one point, based on averages. The Browns' D gives up 0.8 points less than Bengals score, and the Bengals' D gives up 1 point more than the Browns typically score. More evidence for what should be a good game...

Matchup #4

Browns vs. Bengals

Turnover Margin - (+8) 7th vs 20th (-3)

Matchup #4 Turnover Advantage - Browns +11

Trully, the gamechanger. The Browns have been excellent at turning the ball over, and in earlier games were excellent at holding onto the football. Hopefully, Manziel & co. can hold onto the ball and keep improving on the NFL's #7 ranked TO margin...

Overall - Browns by 1 point

Browns and Bengals are very even in their matchups, and are both evenly good/bad on special teams. The Browns average 1 more turnover per game, and that should be the difference. One good bounce here, or one bad bounce there and I think we have either a close game to-the-wire, or a convincing Browns win.

That's just by the numbers...

well... MY numbers...

]]>https://brownsboard.com/topic/31251/by-the-numbers-bengals-vs-browns-matchupsRSS for NodeThu, 01 Oct 2026 14:30:50 GMTWed, 10 Dec 2014 21:36:27 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Sun, 14 Dec 2014 20:21:33 GMT]]>Bengals have run all over the Browns

Hence the score

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/461138https://brownsboard.com/post/461138Sun, 14 Dec 2014 20:21:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Sun, 14 Dec 2014 19:58:24 GMT]]>Look like I might have underestimated...who dey!

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/461118https://brownsboard.com/post/461118Sun, 14 Dec 2014 19:58:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Sun, 14 Dec 2014 02:09:28 GMT]]>It all depends on the redhead. If he does even average at qb it should be a game. If the Browns d forces a turnover and gets a sack early, game over. Bengals run game is their only life force to set up the pass.

Hopefully our d keeps improving and doesn't shit the bed. I doubt they will against the bungles again. They should be fucking fired up to kick their assess again

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/460921https://brownsboard.com/post/460921Sun, 14 Dec 2014 02:09:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Sat, 13 Dec 2014 20:01:09 GMT]]>

@typicalbrowns said:

Sweep coming right up

word games....

Coming right up?...sweep

Sweep right, coming up

Sweep coming up, right?

Right sweep, coming up.

Up coming sweep right

Sweep? coming right up!

Shanny mixes shit up....they'll never know what hit em.....

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/460839https://brownsboard.com/post/460839Sat, 13 Dec 2014 20:01:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Sat, 13 Dec 2014 19:40:48 GMT]]>A bungle sighting! What do we do?

24-3

Sweep coming right up

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@johnnyfoottall said:

Whodey!

24-3

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/460815https://brownsboard.com/post/460815Sat, 13 Dec 2014 19:04:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Sat, 13 Dec 2014 18:38:54 GMT]]>Whodey!

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Zombo said:

You serve no purpose.

Zombo

Understatement of the day.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/460775https://brownsboard.com/post/460775Sat, 13 Dec 2014 16:29:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Sat, 13 Dec 2014 14:36:26 GMT]]>

@johnnyfoottall said:

Yumm skyline!

Bengals by 10.

You serve no purpose.

Zombo

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/460763https://brownsboard.com/post/460763Sat, 13 Dec 2014 14:36:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Sat, 13 Dec 2014 14:24:25 GMT]]>Yumm skyline!

Bengals by 10.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/460761https://brownsboard.com/post/460761Sat, 13 Dec 2014 14:24:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:07:33 GMT]]>

@the-gipper said:

@miktoxic said:

those numbers will change as if vegas just ate a big plate of greasy gravy (spaghetti sauce for all you mid-westerners) on a load of under-cooked linguini.

Is that how you view Cincinnati Chili?

it looked good and tasted good but there's a bubble starting to form in it's stomach and it might have to get rid of it...MINUS MINUS...oh wait, there's a solid here..PLUS PLUS.

Cinci "chilli". Barf. Skyline and Gold Star. Hate that crap even worse than the Bengals.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/460744https://brownsboard.com/post/460744Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:07:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Sat, 13 Dec 2014 03:57:23 GMT]]>I went with the Browns over the Colts because of the D & I'm still upset. Now I am going with the Browns over the Bengals because of the D. :-I Dalton is not Andrew Luck, therefore, he will not fool the D. I have not seen the D play a bad game yet, even in the losses. The losses were close until bad offensive turnovers late made the scores look lopsided. As usual, they will give into the run in order to lock down the air attack. I also expect a defensive touchdown by the Browns or at least a turnover in the Bengals zone that yeilds a TD. That said, i will give a scenario in which the Browns DO NOT win this game. The D will help Johnny, but he still needs to score a few touchdowns (obviously). Too many 3 & outs, stalled drives &/or field goals will not work (besides field goals are anything but guarenteed anymore.) Also, Johnny is a rookie so I guarantee he will turn the ball over at least once. I don't care how good he is, he's still a rookie & will cough up 1. If it's just once, there will be no harm done. If it's more than that, it will most likely swing the game in Cincy's favor. If the Bengals make it close because of multiple offensive mistakes, the Browns will not win. Bengals will get the field goal they need to put them over the top. If he turns the ball over once or less, & gets the offense at least 2 TD's, I believe that will be enough with another stellar performance from the D.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/460722https://brownsboard.com/post/460722Sat, 13 Dec 2014 03:57:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Fri, 12 Dec 2014 16:37:01 GMT]]>The important number has changed... we've gone from an opening 2-point "dog" to 1-point fav.

Every time I have picked against the Vegas opening line when betting has flipped it, it has not turned out well...

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/460539https://brownsboard.com/post/460539Fri, 12 Dec 2014 16:37:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Thu, 11 Dec 2014 23:32:48 GMT]]>

@the-gipper said:

No problem. Good stuff.

But just out of curiosity....what is the betting line?

Split. Most have PK, some have Bengals favored (-1).

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@thenew23 said:

4 factors - OvsD, DvsO, Scoring, TOs

Scoring being most heavily weighted, then the OvsD stats, then TOs

Browns win by one point in scoring, tie in both OvsD matchups. TO differential could be used as a tiebreaker.

The "Browns by 1 point" was based soley on the scoring advantage for team averages. I would add/subtract points based on the OvsD matchups if they were significant. I could also add-in the Vegas +3 at home advantage, and say...

Browns should be favored by 4... But without the home field advantage, I'll say 1 point...

Again, just MY numbers... There's no science here, just me having too much time on my hands trying to figure out which statistcs can help predict games (so far, as many times as I've tried I have been unsuccessful)...

No problem. Good stuff.

But just out of curiosity....what is the betting line?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/460314https://brownsboard.com/post/460314Thu, 11 Dec 2014 20:16:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Thu, 11 Dec 2014 19:50:27 GMT]]>

@the-gipper said:

There was a difference. You analyzed about a baker's dozen different factors.....and you found that the Browns held the edge in those factors by a majority of one factor. Browns had edge in 7, Cinci in 6. But what I was wondering is if you used that edge in factors as a basis to say "Browns favored by one point".....or, as I probably should assume, the factor edge does not relate to a point edge. Maybe each factor could account for a three point differential. Like when they say the home team gets 3 points on the betting line for being at home.

Is there a translation there on this?

4 factors - OvsD, DvsO, Scoring, TOs

Scoring being most heavily weighted, then the OvsD stats, then TOs

Browns win by one point in scoring, tie in both OvsD matchups. TO differential could be used as a tiebreaker.

The "Browns by 1 point" was based soley on the scoring advantage for team averages. I would add/subtract points based on the OvsD matchups if they were significant. I could also add-in the Vegas +3 at home advantage, and say...

Browns should be favored by 4... But without the home field advantage, I'll say 1 point...

Again, just MY numbers... There's no science here, just me having too much time on my hands trying to figure out which statistcs can help predict games (so far, as many times as I've tried I have been unsuccessful)...

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/460300https://brownsboard.com/post/460300Thu, 11 Dec 2014 19:50:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:30:10 GMT]]>yep.....the Bungle fans have all thrown in the towel and are generally pretty angry right now.....not feeling too confident....hard to be smug, when your team sucks(we should know)....😉

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@typicalbrowns said:

Bungle fans in general have been in hidin, like the vampires in "I Am Legend", the sun actually is starting to hurt their skin

You know you're on to something. I havn't seen a Bungle troll all week. Something fishy about that?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/460210https://brownsboard.com/post/460210Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:26:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:25:43 GMT]]>

@miktoxic said:

those numbers will change as if vegas just ate a big plate of greasy gravy (spaghetti sauce for all you mid-westerners) on a load of under-cooked linguini.

Is that how you view Cincinnati Chili?

it looked good and tasted good but there's a bubble starting to form in it's stomach and it might have to get rid of it...MINUS MINUS...oh wait, there's a solid here..PLUS PLUS.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/460209https://brownsboard.com/post/460209Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:25:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:24:23 GMT]]>

@thenew23 said:

So... I could've just said that. Instead of putting all these numbers on a thread and wasting everybody's time who reads it... damn...

There was a difference. You analyzed about a baker's dozen different factors.....and you found that the Browns held the edge in those factors by a majority of one factor. Browns had edge in 7, Cinci in 6. But what I was wondering is if you used that edge in factors as a basis to say "Browns favored by one point".....or, as I probably should assume, the factor edge does not relate to a point edge. Maybe each factor could account for a three point differential. Like when they say the home team gets 3 points on the betting line for being at home.

Is there a translation there on this?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/460208https://brownsboard.com/post/460208Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:24:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:41:17 GMT]]>

@typicalbrowns said:

Am I crazy thinking 8-4-1 is overachieving dramatically for the bungles? I feel like they are a lot worse than that

They are the worst team in the division

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/460178https://brownsboard.com/post/460178Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:41:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:08:39 GMT]]>Like bbed said in another thread, they won't show up until Sunday night IF the Bungals win. Huge game for both teams Sunday, and they aren't showing up. They suck more than I thought.

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@comeonman said:

Haven't seen much of Hairy and them much this year

Bungle fans in general have been in hidin, like the vampires in "I Am Legend", the sun actually is starting to hurt their skin

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/460017https://brownsboard.com/post/460017Thu, 11 Dec 2014 05:40:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to By the numbers: Bengals vs Browns (Matchups) on Thu, 11 Dec 2014 05:41:27 GMT]]>I seriously can't see Dalton doing anything through the air, if Bungles are marginally close to winning it's because they run all over the Browns and Johnny turns the ball over frequently.

I am very confident. I think the Browns roll. Wouldn't be surprised if 24-10. Browns D will own those wimps.

Am I crazy thinking 8-4-1 is overachieving dramatically for the bungles? I feel like they are a lot worse than that

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