@texasag1969 said:

Nope, disruptive force, but his probable demands will be a cap killer. We're going to have to pay Gipson and Gordon big $$$ soon, and I look for Cameron to get an incentive laden deal- on the premise he can stop getting KOed in games.

@texasag1969 said:

You fuckers are starting to rub off on me. I feel so dirty now. Almost Brown in fact. Next thing you know one of you will be providing me a dogpound mug when I come for a game.

Hell, PM me when you're coming up- you can sit with me in 111, that's if Mik isn't in the same weekend. Plan on making it for the annual reunion weekend when the Brits and all the out of town guys take in a game. .

@miktoxic said:

i don't know about a mug but i'm comin with hats next year.

don't know if you'll come all that way to watch conner shaw lead the browns to the playoffs though........

but if you do you'll get a beanie. (no, not beaner as you guys in TX like to say).

You're on the clock Mik. It's up to Howie and G-Man to set the date.

@andeftw said:

nope, he can play both 4-3DE and 3-4 5 tech. Put it this way, Watt played strictly 4-3DE in college and had to be converted to play more inside as the 5 tech. Bosa's been fighting through double teams nearly every play at OSU because they play him inside ALOT even when they're showing 4-3. So he could be a DT in a 4-3...but obviously in a 4-3 I'd rather have him shoulder pressing a tackle around the edge. That kid gets to the qb the right way...shortest distance, collapses the pocket even if he doesn't get there. I'm not a huge fan of the wide speed edges...they give to much step up to the qb. Roethlisberger has made his living stepping up in the pocket and spilling out

@calfoxwc said:

YEP^^^^^^^

Mike

A. He's an on the field moron, who can hurt your defense as easily as he can help it.

B. He's a dirtbag.

C. You can draft a guy who has the intelligence to practice, and play, like a Cleveland Brown.

D. The Browns have built a TEAM. Why screw it up with with a giant, really ignorant, selfish, out of control

asswipe?

E. Did I mention that he is stupid, and can cost his team a win, especially an important win, by getting a big

penalty at the worst possible time, and he wouldn't give a damn?

F. Forget it. Seriously.

Perhaps we can get the DT at FSU.

Suh is not worth it, not even close.

WSS

@comeonman said:

That's most likely the case but considering we don't even know which underclassmen are declaring for the draft, it's all speculation at this time. It all depends on the depth of the class.

I think Bosa will be more coveted by teams which play in a 4-3 scheme though.

@andeftw said:

The Dolphins gave up just a second rounder in 2013 to move up from 12 to 3, the Bills a first and a 4th/5th to move up from 9 to 4.

If the Browns get lucky and the team holding the pick is looking to trade down, it might not cost all that much to get him...

@mudfly said:

The Dolphins gave up just a second rounder in 2013 to move up from 12 to 3, the Bills a first and a 4th/5th to move up from 9 to 4.

If the Browns get lucky and the team holding the pick is looking to trade down, it might not cost all that much to get him...

@andeftw said:

I agree.....we wont even sniff him.....unless Farmer finds another Buffalo to trade with....I can dream, right?

Miller (JAX), Williams (AZ) and Bowers (TB) are among other UFA DT's of potential interest.

@letsgojackets said:

Would probably take a top 5 pick to draft and hopefully the Browns won't be in that situation in a few years' time.

XxDaBuckeyexX said:

Phil Taylor is among the best NT's in the league and he's going to need an extension after the 5th year option expires next season. Gordon and Cameron will need pricy extensions soon as well. Gipson is a restricted free agent, so he'll probably get the first or second round tender, but an extension will kick in for him in 2016.

I don't think it makes sense to overpay for a good defensive lineman and play him out of position when it means giving up financial flexibility in the future. What's the point of drafting and developing players if you don't have the cap room to sign them later on?

In a few years you would end up with the mess the Saints currently have on their hands with very little depth and high priced underperforming free agents acquisitions.

@texasag1969 said:

Right.

@mudfly said:

I would blow my load if we got Bosa.

@mudfly said:

i'll prob just bring a rolling IV with a sack a suds attached to my main frame. leaves me with two hands free.....hee hee.

you take the plunge when you drink with us...

@texasag1969 said:

i don't know about a mug but i'm comin with hats next year.

don't know if you'll come all that way to watch conner shaw lead the browns to the playoffs though........

but if you do you'll get a beanie. (no, not beaner as you guys in TX like to say).

@the-gipper said:

You fuckers are starting to rub off on me. I feel so dirty now. Almost Brown in fact. Next thing you know one of you will be providing me a dogpound mug when I come for a game.

XxDaBuckeyexX said:

Disagree. Suh would be lost in a 3-4 defense. He doesn't have the size to play NT, and is not quick/fast enough to have the same impact as a DE as he has playing the inside in a 4-3. It would take him a whole season to adjust to the position. Going against OTs and moving lateral at times is a lot different that going against Cs/OGs and moving vertical almost every play... Plus, his over-pursuit would create giant gaps behind him in the run-game... not something we need... We need a more disciplined player in that position (Winn and D.Bryant are really starting to figure that out recently)...

Suh has pretty average #'s(38 tkl/5.5 sks) overall, though I know he occupies and disrupts more than the stats show. He creates for others, so to speak.....but him and Bryant have the same basic tackles/sacks and Bryant missed a bunch of games early....

I agree that BOSA could be the next GREAT one.....a complete player in every way!