@osiris said:

Did we need a retool at way too many positions when we were 6-3? It's the same damn team. The talent is present. What this team needs is consistency to build better unit cohesion, a retool on the defensive line only, and better depth so injuries don't have such a huge impact. Even if we finish 7-9 it's a hell of a lot better than last year and what most expected we could do. The WORST thing we could do now is blow the team up again.

^This...

Depth always comes last in the building process.

I'll still be a BROWNS' Fan next week, next year, & until I'm gone.

Any alleged fan who turns on their team & players after a single loss needs to disappear.

Mike

@soju said:

Maybe the NFL would adopt a new rule. I suggest...every draft, the top rated qb always goes to Cleveland. Every other team can pick after we get the qb. Drastic circumstances require drastic measures.

@unsympathetic said:

What we need with those 2 first rounders are OL and DL. You know, the parts of the game that the Browns lost yesterday.

Mariota isn't fixing either line.

Yes and Mariota has less arm than Johnny.. we already had Cunt McCoy and Chuckie McFry..

Mariota isn't fixing either line.

@osiris said:

Did we need a retool at way too many positions when we were 6-3? It's the same damn team. The talent is present. What this team needs is consistency to build better unit cohesion, a retool on the defensive line only, and better depth so injuries don't have such a huge impact. Even if we finish 7-9 it's a hell of a lot better than last year and what most expected we could do. The WORST thing we could do now is blow the team up again.

People have a hard time understanding that.. "Injuries can catch up with a team quick". Regardless that JM stunk.. It would be hard for any QB to win with this rag tag mash unit.

@winstonlegthigh said:

Welcome to the Browns board.

@clevfan4life said:

no, no new QB for years. This team needs a retool at way too many positions. Giving up draft picks for another QB crapshoot is a great way to stay in the North basement.

Did we need a retool at way too many positions when we were 6-3? It's the same damn team. The talent is present. What this team needs is consistency to build better unit cohesion, a retool on the defensive line only, and better depth so injuries don't have such a huge impact. Even if we finish 7-9 it's a hell of a lot better than last year and what most expected we could do. The WORST thing we could do now is blow the team up again.

@winstonlegthigh said:

this board turns on a dime, there are many posters here with the memory of a gold-fish, as if all decisions are made based on what they've seen in the past 11 seconds.

So far we have a fire the coach thread, a fire the entire offensive line and D front 7 thread, a put hoyer back in thread, and now a let's draft mariotta thread.

Jesus H Christ

@soju said:

fuck off with this Retard shit.

@the-cysko-kid said:

He won ZERO playoff games

end of story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@browns149 said:

there it is. if we burnt 2 picks on mariota, it would be the end for another 10 years. Stupid move.

@the-cysko-kid said:

He was good till the dirty Steelers injured him in the playoffs.

@browns149 said:

There is only 2 QB Heisman winners that were good NFL qb's

Staubach and Plunkett

You could argue for palmer, I guess.

Since 1950, 27 quarterbacks have been selected as the Heisman Trophy winner. Of those 27, only 20 started at quarterback in at least one NFL game. Among those 20, only four quarterbacks have a winning record in the NFL (regular season). Robert Griffin III is the only Heisman winner with a career passer rating over 90 in the NFL (90.8). Since 1950, the combined NFL winning percentage for quarterbacks who won the Heisman Trophy is under .500 (480-501-4, .489).

http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap2000000297440

Staubach and Plunkett

nothing surprises me anymore.

@soju said: