@tiamat63 said:

I'll buy you a car if you stop drinking? Ya, that'll work.

@itoldyou said:

Manziel sent him a text saying "Let's wreck this strip club" about 2 hours ago.

that was the Gipper...

WSS

WSS

@oldbrownsfan said:

Great. Did he tweet anything about Manziel?

Manziel sent him a text saying "Let's wreck this strip club" about 2 hours ago.

@jcam222 said:

Funny you mention that, wasn't there story that Johnny's father said he'd buy him a car in high school if he would stop drinking?

It's pretty fucking bold if that's true. I wont be a hypocrite and say that I didn't drink in high school, but never to THAT extent and my folks never found out.

I believe both Josh and Johnny can show addictive tendencies. Like I said, if both are used as bait to trade into the top 10 this year (which I suspect they will be)

then I have zero issue with that.

@d-bone said:

That's putting it lightly. The upside to such a move though is it would have "insured" the perennial #1 pick for the next decade. And as Browns fans draft talk is best talk, imagine what fun it would be for Browns fans between January and May? Every year too. So let's not dismiss this idea of firing yet another coach after 1 year.

@mark-o said:

So based on that....I don't believe any will be released anytime soon. But I would be willing to bet they're all on the trading block starting tonight.

I think Gordon and Manziel are on the shortest leash with Gilbert being given time to "grow up".

I agree, not only because he's an 8th overall pick but because he has less strikes against him than manziel or gordonm

@jcam222 said:

I believe it has already been confirmed they were all in attendance.

Along with 10 other players who attended.. Like Bernie said.. Someone should've grabbed these kids ( a team vet) and jacked their shit up and got their asses home.

@miktoxic said:

I believe it has already been confirmed they were all in attendance.

@brownbob said:

thats is what counts....last place again with all the other teams in our division getting better...all 3 made the playoffs...what a disaster this franchise is...still no qb, no receivers...no dl...no impact pass rushers...yeah man we in great shape...pffffffft....

@mark-o said:

Couple of comments- hey Joe played with the flu? You don't offer your players free flu shots? Great performance by Joe, and the D in general- until the lack of offense finally wore them down in the 4th quarter.

Very wise of you Mike- cool down and sleep on how you want to diplomatically ass-whip the Movie Star Midget, the Druggie, and Mr. Bad Attitude tomorrow.

I think Gordon and Manziel are on the shortest leash with Gilbert being given time to "grow up".

The Browns owner did not refer to Johnny Manziel, Justin Gilbert or Josh Gordon by name Sunday, but the implication was clear.

"I think a player who can't show up for meetings, can't make practice, can't make weight-lifting, disrespects himself," Haslam said. "But I think more importantly, and I think this is what these young guys miss, they disrespect the team, the coaches, the staff, the fans.

“

They're young kids. We're going to work with them -- hopefully they grow up. But if they can't grow up and they can't be responsible to the their teammates and the coaches and our great fans, then they won't be with the Cleveland Browns.

”

- Browns owner Jimmy Haslam

There's a lot of people in our organization whose livelihood depends on how well we do. We're not gonna tolerate people who are irresponsible, no matter what round they're drafted in."

Gordon was suspended for the season finale -- a 20-10 loss to the Baltimore Ravens -- for missing a walk-through on Saturday. Manziel was fined for being late to his treatment for an injured hamstring and Gilbert was inactive Sunday after being late for a meeting Saturday night.

According to multiple media outlets, Manziel threw a party Friday night that was attended by multiple members of the team, including Gordon.

Haslam said the Browns would continue to work with the "young guys."

"We're gonna give them a chance," Haslam said. "They're young kids. We're going to work with them -- hopefully they grow up.

"But if they can't grow up and they can't be responsible to the their teammates and the coaches and our great fans, then they won't be with the Cleveland Browns."

Browns coach Mike Pettine promised he would address the situation of the three players who caused such a furor on Monday. But he declined on Sunday.

"It's disrespectful to the guys that put the uniform on today and went out and played their hearts out for the Cleveland Browns," Pettine said. "We have guys that we should be celebrating."

He then mentioned several, including Joe Haden, who played with the flu, Jim Leonhard, who is retiring, Craig Robertson, Marlon Moore, Joel Bitonio, Joe Thomas, Karlos Dansby and Donte Whitner.

"There were guys that didn't need to go out there and play," Pettine said. "They could have shut it down and didn't. And to me, it's disrespectful to them and the way they have played today ... I'll have plenty to say tomorrow."

Haslam made clear that he is not making a coaching change after the season, saying Pettine and general manager Ray Farmer will "absolutely" be back.

@brownbob said:

Why don't you go F yourself.

@mark-o said:

Much more likely he gets 200 games with the Browns than Johnny fucktard the elf does.

Perfect post...

@mark-o said:

Haslam also said that the Browns will continue to work with the team’s irresponsible players, but he made it clear they’ll be gone if they don’t “fall in line.”

As to Manziel, it remains to be seen whether he has gotten the message. During Sunday’s loss, he was on Twitter, clicking “favorite” on a tweet from TMZ regarding Chris Rock’s looming divorce from his wife.

Wow... just wow. He was at the fucking game.

There aren't supposed to be phones at games.

@usfbrown said:

Yup. Worst thing is keeping him on the team and influencing others to be punks too.

Exactly my thinking...

Only one of the three being discussed has the celebrity to be a bad influence. Eliminate the influence and ask the other two if they really want to be a Brown. If they say, "yes," then give them through TC to prove it.

@d-bone said:

That's what I fear mik. He's a talentless, organizational cancer with zero trade value. The quicker he's gone, the better off we are. Puffy can stay until draft time and hopefully someone will want him.

I have seen enough of v2.0 to know he will never be an NFL QB, hopefully the guys making the decisions have the same eyes as I do.

Yup. Worst thing is keeping him on the team and influencing others to be punks too.

@usfbrown said:

Pettine's been saying that all year.

@jcam222 said:

Pettine has already admitted to mistakes. We finished last but this season provided me a lot of enjoyment. I saw a rejuvenated fan base at the stadium and feel like we are headed up. Call me a homer if you will. I'm looking forward to next year.

Mabe takeing a que from when Eisenhower was running for president - for you young guys. I'll have Mik make some buttons up "I Like Mike".

@mark-o said:

Haslam says Browns won’t tolerate “irresponsible” players

Posted by Mike Florio on December 28, 2014, 5:26 PM EST

With the Browns seeing a 7-4 start disintegrate to an 0-5 finish, Browns owner Jimmy Haslam won’t be hiring a new coach or a new G.M. The same ultimately may not be said for some of the team’s high-profile players.

Via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Haslam said after Sunday’s loss to the Ravens that the Browns are “not going to tolerate people who are irresponsible no matter what round they were drafted in.”

He’s referring to quarterback Johnny Manziel, cornerback Justin Gilbert, and receiver Josh Gordon, each of whom found trouble this weekend for failing to be where they were supposed to be when they were supposed to be there.

Haslam also said that the Browns will continue to work with the team’s irresponsible players, but he made it clear they’ll be gone if they don’t “fall in line.”

As to Manziel, it remains to be seen whether he has gotten the message. During Sunday’s loss, he was on Twitter, clicking “favorite” on a tweet from TMZ regarding Chris Rock’s looming divorce from his wife.

Maybe someday Chris Rock will be favoriting a tweet from TMZ regarding Manziel’s looming divorce from the Browns.

Scooped me Mark. The red says it all- ship him out for a sack of seeds if necessary.

@mudfly said:

Man, that would be sweet

@miktoxic said:

That's what I fear mik. He's a talentless, organizational cancer with zero trade value. The quicker he's gone, the better off we are. Puffy can stay until draft time and hopefully someone will want him.

I have seen enough of v2.0 to know he will never be an NFL QB, hopefully the guys making the decisions have the same eyes as I do.

@d-bone said:

i don't like manziel either but i think it's kinda hard to give up on a first round pick literally over night. do i think he will make it in the nfl? no. but some people in the franchise might and unfortunately they make the decisions.