<![CDATA[Good game, thoughts from Ravens perspective on Game and Season, and a question]]>First off, I'm not here to rub anything in.

The Browns were a much improved team this year. At one point you guys were 7-4 at the top of the division. And that was with without Gordon and with Hoyer starting.

That probably doesn't make many of you feel better, but it's true. The Browns are now a team I dread facing. I actually predicted you guys to win this one, and for a while it looked like I was gonna be correct.

Although much has changed from week 3 till now, both games were eerily similar.

The Browns basically controlled both games for the majority of the 4 quarters of play. Then at the end Flacco and the offense stepped up to steal the game away late. And both game winning/defining plays were made against the Browns top All Pro Corner Joe Hayden.

Anyways, good game, good season.

Now, I'm curious. Who is everybody here rooting for this Saturday, Ravens or Steelers? Or is it one of those games where you just don't root for either team?

Is there a team any of you are pulling for in the playoffs? My father has always rooted for the North winner if the Ravens weren't in it anymore. I usually root for an NFC team, usually the Packers.

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@the-gipper said:

The Cleveland Bulldogs.....for if the Browns were no more, this town would get an expansion team.....or would take someone else's team and reconfigure it.

When the potential occurred that the "Cleveland Browns" would be no more, an expansion team being located here was an option and the Cleveland Bulldogs was the most common name bandied about for that team.

Hypothetically. Cleveland has no football. I think I may have to go with Houston]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/467650https://brownsboard.com/post/467650Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:57:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Good game, thoughts from Ravens perspective on Game and Season, and a question on Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:45:13 GMT]]>

@comeonman said:

Interesting question. If the Browns were for some reason no more, who would you root for. I would have to think about that one for a while. Definetly not any other AFCN team

The Cleveland Bulldogs.....for if the Browns were no more, this town would get an expansion team.....or would take someone else's team and reconfigure it.

When the potential occurred that the "Cleveland Browns" would be no more, an expansion team being located here was an option and the Cleveland Bulldogs was the most common name bandied about for that team.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/467643https://brownsboard.com/post/467643Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:45:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Good game, thoughts from Ravens perspective on Game and Season, and a question on Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:25:39 GMT]]>Interesting question. If the Browns were for some reason no more, who would you root for. I would have to think about that one for a while. Definetly not any other AFCN team

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/467635https://brownsboard.com/post/467635Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:25:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Good game, thoughts from Ravens perspective on Game and Season, and a question on Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:18:29 GMT]]>I'd probably root for the bears or packers if there were no browns. Despite our proximity to Pittsburgh I draw no parallels with them

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@tiamat63 said:

I don't hate Baltimore because they aren't the "Old Browns" anymore. There isn't a player on roster that was around for The Move and its time to get past that. I despise the Ratbirds for their whiny fanbase. I LOATHE Pittsburgh fans because they're toothless mountain people. Seriously, these are the fuckers that sell out WWE shows on a constant basis.

The Bungles I have less of an issue with. Been to a couple games in Cincy, most of the fans are cool with Browns fans. We have heartbreaking history and a long standing series of ineptitude.

For the most part, many of them would pull for the Brownies should we make the playoffs and they don't. Lets be honest with ourselves, if the Browns never existed, we'd all be Bengals fans.

Whether or not the Ravens are the "old Browns" never had anything to do with players for me. I never said, damn, those players are traitors, or, damn, Ray Lewis should've been our guy, and I didn't change my mind the day Matt Stover retired. If I was 20 years old, or 60 years old, I'd probably feel differently about the history and current significance. The Ravens will always be illegitimate to me. I hate the Steelers, too, but I can, at least on rare occasion, respect the franchise and its success.

I wouldn't be a Bengals fan if the Browns didn't exist. I'm a Browns fan because my dad grew up in Erie, Pa during the 60s. Some 20 years later, even though I grew up in Indiana, then Virginia, I was never given a choice in the matter. Had the Browns not existed I'm not sure what I'd be, and I got a test run for three seasons as an impressionable little mush head but my golf game got better on Sundays instead of caring more about some other NFL team. As for my dad, I guess he might've passed the Steelers or Bills along instead.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/467530https://brownsboard.com/post/467530Wed, 31 Dec 2014 14:35:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Good game, thoughts from Ravens perspective on Game and Season, and a question on Wed, 31 Dec 2014 14:28:57 GMT]]>Yes they do. I have extended family, who are unfortunately Steelers fans, that live in Atlanta and Colorado. They spread like a disease.

I'm not sure where I'd fall if there was no Cleveland football. If the Browns didn't exist, likely neither would the Bengals. Due to geographical location, I'd probably would've been raised a Steelers fan. Oh the horror...

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@mark-o said:

I hate pittspuke and their fans...but sorry to break this to you but the WWE shows sell out all across the country and all over the world every single Monday night.

That's because "pittsburgh fans travel well"

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@larryfine said:

Why don't you shut the fuck up you immature hick. Your an embarrishment to any fan base. Suck my balls!

'You're' there, Mr. Basic English.

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@mudfly said:

But, had the Browns never existed, then Art Modell could never have fired Paul Brown, making him angry enough to create our cross state rival Bengals in the first place.....meaning the Bengals are the Browns angry stepchild, fathered by PB, almost wearing our colors, etc......so....

Which came first? The chicken or the Bengal?

The butterfly effect.

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@tml1138 said:

Are you suggesting that the majority of Browns fans would be FRAKs if no Cleveland team existed? 🙂

Well, lets just say that there would be vastly divided loyalties. Close to Detroit, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Cincy so all those ties would pull and yes, a fair amount of people would just go for the flavor of the day.

For 40 years no one thought diddly about the Seacawks....and now you do hear about how a lost of people like that team.

It would happen. Inevitable. I honestly could NOT say that if the Browns weren't around that I would be a Lions/Bengals/Steeler/Bills fan, no. Hell, like since there is no hockey team here I would only be peripherally interested in football. I would be mostly interested in the Cavs and Indians if they were here, and have no particular favorite when it came to football.

Like right now with hockey.....I guess, maybe that I would prefer the Columbus Blue Jackets.....but I may have watched all of 5 minutes of any games of their combined this year.

(But....fyi, I DO like watching the outside hockey games played on New Years.....oddly there is something more interesting about those games than the usual meaningless bowl games we have had in the past. That may certainly change this year with the New year's bowls being part of the college football playoffs)

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@tiamat63 said:

I don't hate Baltimore because they aren't the "Old Browns" anymore. There isn't a player on roster that was around for The Move and its time to get past that. I despise the Ratbirds for their whiny fanbase. I LOATHE Pittsburgh fans because they're toothless mountain people. Seriously, these are the fuckers that sell out WWE shows on a constant basis.

The Bungles I have less of an issue with. Been to a couple games in Cincy, most of the fans are cool with Browns fans. We have heartbreaking history and a long standing series of ineptitude.

For the most part, many of them would pull for the Brownies should we make the playoffs and they don't. Lets be honest with ourselves, if the Browns never existed, we'd all be Bengals fans.

Browns existed well before the Bungles were a gleam in Paul Brown's eye.

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@tiamat63 said:

I don't hate Baltimore because they aren't the "Old Browns" anymore. There isn't a player on roster that was around for The Move and its time to get past that. I despise the Ratbirds for their whiny fanbase. I LOATHE Pittsburgh fans because they're toothless mountain people. Seriously, these are the fuckers that sell out WWE shows on a constant basis.

The Bungles I have less of an issue with. Been to a couple games in Cincy, most of the fans are cool with Browns fans. We have heartbreaking history and a long standing series of ineptitude.

For the most part, many of them would pull for the Brownies should we make the playoffs and they don't. Lets be honest with ourselves, if the Browns never existed, we'd all be Bengals fans.

Why don't you shut the fuck up you immature hick. Your an embarrishment to any fan base. Suck my balls!

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/467325https://brownsboard.com/post/467325Tue, 30 Dec 2014 20:33:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Good game, thoughts from Ravens perspective on Game and Season, and a question on Tue, 30 Dec 2014 20:25:46 GMT]]>But, had the Browns never existed, then Art Modell could never have fired Paul Brown, making him angry enough to create our cross state rival Bengals in the first place.....meaning the Bengals are the Browns angry stepchild, fathered by PB, almost wearing our colors, etc......so....

Which came first? The chicken or the Bengal?

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@the-gipper said:

Lets be honest with ourselves, if the Browns never existed, we'd all be Bengals fans.

Never existed? Interesting thought... and likely with much different loyalties than had they existed, but never came back and become the Baltimore Browns. However, I don't see Bengals as an outcome in either case.

Never: I'd likely be a Bears fan.

After: Due to relocation I'd be all in for Houston.

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@the-gipper said:

Lets be honest with ourselves, if the Browns never existed, we'd all be Bengals fans.

Why? I believe that if there were no team here in Cleveland we would see this place rampant with FRAKs. I mean, a dicknose like Ben Roethlisberger who grew up in Findlay wasn't a fan of the Browns/Bengals/Lions which were a lot closer to him......but was a 49ers fan because he like Joe Montana. I think there would be a lot of that. Even though Detroit, Pittsburgh, Buffalo and Cincy are closer you would have your share of FRAK Cowboy fans, 49er fans, Giants fans.....whoever is winning.

Are you suggesting that the majority of Browns fans would be FRAKs if no Cleveland team existed? 🙂

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/467280https://brownsboard.com/post/467280Tue, 30 Dec 2014 18:54:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Good game, thoughts from Ravens perspective on Game and Season, and a question on Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:42:38 GMT]]> Lets be honest with ourselves, if the Browns never existed, we'd all be Bengals fans.

Why? I believe that if there were no team here in Cleveland we would see this place rampant with FRAKs. I mean, a dicknose like Ben Roethlisberger who grew up in Findlay wasn't a fan of the Browns/Bengals/Lions which were a lot closer to him......but was a 49ers fan because he like Joe Montana. I think there would be a lot of that. Even though Detroit, Pittsburgh, Buffalo and Cincy are closer you would have your share of FRAK Cowboy fans, 49er fans, Giants fans.....whoever is winning.

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@tiamat63 said:

I LOATHE Pittsburgh fans because they're toothless mountain people. Seriously, these are the fuckers that sell out WWE shows on a constant basis.

I hate pittspuke and their fans...but sorry to break this to you but the WWE shows sell out all across the country and all over the world every single Monday night.

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@andruw-u said:

In our division, I know I'm in the minority, but I hate Baltimore the most. With Pittsburgh and Cincinnati, it's a rivalry, but just a football rivalry. The Move, The Fumble and The Drive combined to scar my childhood.

I don't hate Baltimore because they aren't the "Old Browns" anymore. There isn't a player on roster that was around for The Move and its time to get past that. I despise the Ratbirds for their whiny fanbase. I LOATHE Pittsburgh fans because they're toothless mountain people. Seriously, these are the fuckers that sell out WWE shows on a constant basis.

The Bungles I have less of an issue with. Been to a couple games in Cincy, most of the fans are cool with Browns fans. We have heartbreaking history and a long standing series of ineptitude.

For the most part, many of them would pull for the Brownies should we make the playoffs and they don't. Lets be honest with ourselves, if the Browns never existed, we'd all be Bengals fans.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/467185https://brownsboard.com/post/467185Tue, 30 Dec 2014 15:31:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Good game, thoughts from Ravens perspective on Game and Season, and a question on Tue, 30 Dec 2014 14:29:45 GMT]]>I can sorta root for the Packers. It's cool a town, literally a town, like that loves and, officially, supports the franchise. I don't root for, but enjoy watching, Seattle. I dream the Browns could copy Seattle, minus Sherman acting like a MF'g pro wrestler.

In our division, I know I'm in the minority, but I hate Baltimore the most. With Pittsburgh and Cincinnati, it's a rivalry, but just a football rivalry. The Move, The Fumble and The Drive combined to scar my childhood.

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@stewie said:

Exactly. Hoping another sub 500 loser wins the Super Bowl makes a browns fan feel better about his team.

LoL.. the AAFC? Does Cleveland have an Arena Football championship too? May as well count that.

The AAFC was the Arena Football league of the 1940's.

The Packers have the most championships that matter period.

are you stupid. The AAFC was better than the NFL at that time. You are ignorant if you think otherwise. What AAFC came in and dominated the NFL?

(Yes, the Packers as a single franchise have the most championships. Cleveland area's titles are divided among several franchises.

A

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@stewie said:

Why Detroit? Detroit going to the Super Bowl would leave Cleveland all by its lonesome as the only founding NFL team to have never made a SB appearance.

The Lions are not a found franchise of the NFL. The only two "founding franchises" are the Bears and the Cardinals still active....and the Packers who came into the league one year later.....the Giants who came in 4 years later. All other franchises didn't come into existance until at least 10-12 years after the NFL was formed.

The only other teams that never made an appearance are JAX and Hou....but they are much newer franchises.

Well, here is a stat you may not know....but should......Out of the 32 NFL franchises.....15 have never won a "Super Bowl" (NFL title since 1966).

A considerable number are only 0-1 in SBs.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/467151https://brownsboard.com/post/467151Tue, 30 Dec 2014 14:05:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Good game, thoughts from Ravens perspective on Game and Season, and a question on Tue, 30 Dec 2014 14:03:01 GMT]]>Steelers vs Ratbirds, my triage take:

  • I have hated Pittsburgh since I became an aware fan in 1970
  • I absolutely hated how they got every damn call in the 70s. I did begrudgingly love Jack Lambert though, and thought Bradshaw was clutch. Their defense was truly one of the best ever despite my hate.
  • Three Rivers Jinx was horrible- we got robbed in 1979 when the Steelers fumbled the OT kickoff, refs said guy (Anderson?) was down, total bullshit.
  • Art crushed our hearts in 1995, Rooney said it was bullshit
  • I always thought I hated the Steelers the most, until the 2008 AFC Championship...I was rooting for the Ratbirds to lose (not the Steelers to win); I guess it was a Freudian slip that I never really knew I hated Baltimore more.
  • Plus, a franchise like Baltimore glorifying Ray Lewis, even ESPN has done that. Horrible
  • Ozzie Newsome defending Ray Rice, wtf

So yeah, I once again will be rooting for the Ratbirds to lose, not Pittsburgh to win this week

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@stewie said:

Why Detroit? Detroit going to the Super Bowl would leave Cleveland all by its lonesome as the only founding NFL team to have never made a SB appearance.

The only other teams that never made an appearance are JAX and Hou....but they are much newer franchises.

Why would I care that Cleveland is left behind as the only team not to make it to the SB? That's whiny loser attitude, which I know you want to assume all Browns fans are.

Detroit is one of the oldest teams, originally started in Ohio actually, and I believe has the longest drought of winning a championship...like 1957. That's seven years older than the Browns last championship. Arizona is the only one longer, I believe, but they were in the Superbowl not too long ago so that's why they are second instead of first.

@hoorta said:

Don't get Gip all mad. the AAFC was far from "Arena League". The Browns proved it- winning the Championship in 1950 when they joined the NFL. BTW, I and most others don't like how Gip is counting, though he's technically right. He's going all the way back to the days of the Canton Bulldogs.

Even if we just go with the Browns championships, if the Steelers won again this year they'd still be one behind.

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