<![CDATA[Have the Browns Ever Had the Right Coach Since 99?]]>With more time was there any coach since 99 who may have taken the Browns to the next level? I don't think so although there were some that were better than others. The jury is still out with Pettine but he looks the guy who might get it done.

Chris Palmer, 1999-2000, 5-27: NO

Butch Davis, 2001-2004, 24-35, ? I liked him, took Browns to playoffs in second year with 9-7 record, forced to resign following year after going 3-8. I think they should have given him another year.

Terry Robiskie, 2004, 1-5: Interim coach

Romeo Crennel, 2005-2008, 24-40 : A proven good defensive coordinator who seemed out of his element as head coach, took the Browns to 10-6 record in 2007, next year 4-12 and let go.

Eric Mangini, 2009-2010, 10-22: I don't think so. JMO.

Pat Shurmur, 2011-2012, 9-23: NO

Rob Chudzinski, 2013, 4-12: Possible but not given enough time

Mike Pettine, Current, 7-9: Promising, Browns competitive in his first year, faded down the the stretch but key injuries hurt the team who do not have alot of depth, hoping he gets a good three years

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@lumbergh said:

I always say if you want a coach who tries to be just like Bill Belicheck but is dumber, less respected, and fatter, you gotta go with Eric Mangini.

or Romeo

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@usfbrown said:

I always liked Mangini and his philosophy.

I always say if you want a coach who tries to be just like Bill Belicheck but is dumber, less respected, and fatter, you gotta go with Eric Mangini.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/468413https://brownsboard.com/post/468413Sun, 04 Jan 2015 11:19:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Have the Browns Ever Had the Right Coach Since 99? on Sat, 03 Jan 2015 23:07:52 GMT]]>Mangini got a bad rap as being too strict probably stuff he got from Belichik.

I think Mangina was OK, but I'm happy with pettine.

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@clevfan4life said:

The Mangini firing set this org back nearly a decade. That was a debacle, and all cause his staff was "mean" to McCoy who was our anointed one at the time. I have zero doubt we would have been in the AFC championship by now had we kept him. Like Pettine or not we're stuck with him, we can't fire a coach for awhile or it's the dark ages for Cleveland football....some of you will be dead by the time the Browns sniff a .500 season again. Do we want to be the Raiders? If you think being a Browns fan is miserable.......

Agreed. I think Mangini was showing real progress until the fat fuck Holmgren came.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/468337https://brownsboard.com/post/468337Sat, 03 Jan 2015 23:06:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Have the Browns Ever Had the Right Coach Since 99? on Sat, 03 Jan 2015 22:55:32 GMT]]>I really had no issue with Mangini through Pettine. Too often as fans we blame the coaches when really the problem with the Browns since 1999 is a gross lack of talent.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/468336https://brownsboard.com/post/468336Sat, 03 Jan 2015 22:55:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Have the Browns Ever Had the Right Coach Since 99? on Sat, 03 Jan 2015 13:34:15 GMT]]>Pet's a fine coach. I'm glad they're keeping him, so it seems.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/468214https://brownsboard.com/post/468214Sat, 03 Jan 2015 13:34:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Have the Browns Ever Had the Right Coach Since 99? on Fri, 02 Jan 2015 22:30:31 GMT]]>I think Pettine is the right guy and Farmer could be the right guy if Haslam leaves his checkbook behind and visits a monastery, taking a vow of silence for the summer.

GO BROWNS !

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/468119https://brownsboard.com/post/468119Fri, 02 Jan 2015 22:30:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Have the Browns Ever Had the Right Coach Since 99? on Fri, 02 Jan 2015 19:49:45 GMT]]>Davis was a nincompoop..

Mangini was an asshole..

Pettine gets it...

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@larryfine said:

The greatest coach in the history of the Browns was Sam Rigatoni. They should see if he would come out of retirement to coach again.

That is a bad idea.....but you are making me hungry now for some pasta.

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@tour2ma said:

I think we've had the "Coach" three times...

Davis was just a terrible GM.

Mangini was just in Holmgren's way.

Pet looks to be the best we've seen.

Copy that.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/468037https://brownsboard.com/post/468037Fri, 02 Jan 2015 17:06:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Have the Browns Ever Had the Right Coach Since 99? on Fri, 02 Jan 2015 16:47:03 GMT]]>As far as Shurmur goes, I wasn't enamored with him...but the last time I really thought the Browns were really brewing something on defense was under Shurmur. I initially did not like that we were switching schemes again from Mangini's 3-4 but honestly I really thought the 4-3 we were developing under Shurmur was going to be special. While I didn't hate Hortons 3-4 we ran that year I still thought it was a step back from what we were building the previous two years. So I give Shurmur and his staff some credit. And what I thought even back then was that even if a coach shows some sideline misjudgements, how do his players relate to him...and to a man that lockeroom was behind Shurmur. I don't have much doubt that given two more years under him we might still have been playoff contenders this year. Continuity and consistency trump everything. Pettine has to be here for years to come.

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@tour2ma said:

yes it most certainly is a good thing.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/468026https://brownsboard.com/post/468026Fri, 02 Jan 2015 16:41:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Have the Browns Ever Had the Right Coach Since 99? on Fri, 02 Jan 2015 04:25:38 GMT]]>The only coach on that list I thought was okay was Mangini. It's not a surprise to me to hear he's getting interviews for a HC gig around the league right now. Pettine showed some good things but got marred in a QB carousel. Worst on that list by far was Pat "deer in the headlights" Shurmer. No matter what the fuck happened bad on the field Shurmer had this look on his face like he was just baffled he was there.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/467971https://brownsboard.com/post/467971Fri, 02 Jan 2015 04:25:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Have the Browns Ever Had the Right Coach Since 99? on Fri, 02 Jan 2015 03:54:35 GMT]]>I think We have the right coach.. wrong owner..

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/467967https://brownsboard.com/post/467967Fri, 02 Jan 2015 03:54:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Have the Browns Ever Had the Right Coach Since 99? on Fri, 02 Jan 2015 03:02:06 GMT]]>I kinda mean over the last 15 years or so.

(2nd link didn't work)

WSS

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@westside-steve said:

I do wonder, maybe the Gipper or somebody could look this up, but around the league what's the average occurrence of coaches lasting less than two seasons for other teams?

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/10/1/6874725/nfl-coaches-hot-seat-dennis-allen-teams-ranked

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/12/nfl-one-and-done-chudzinski-carroll-mora-schottenheimer

@clevfan4life said:

Like Pettine or not we're stuck with him...

Then it's a good thing we like him.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/467933https://brownsboard.com/post/467933Thu, 01 Jan 2015 23:27:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Have the Browns Ever Had the Right Coach Since 99? on Thu, 01 Jan 2015 23:19:47 GMT]]>The greatest coach in the history of the Browns was Sam Rigatoni. They should see if he would come out of retirement to coach again.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/467932https://brownsboard.com/post/467932Thu, 01 Jan 2015 23:19:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Have the Browns Ever Had the Right Coach Since 99? on Thu, 01 Jan 2015 22:53:05 GMT]]>I like Pettine but even with the support shown to him by Haslam he will only have a short time to prove he can turn the club around. I think he can do it. From the comments my guess is of the past coaches most here would have picked Mangini to have been the coach if given time to turn it around in Cleveland.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/467926https://brownsboard.com/post/467926Thu, 01 Jan 2015 22:53:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Have the Browns Ever Had the Right Coach Since 99? on Thu, 01 Jan 2015 22:41:37 GMT]]>The Mangini firing set this org back nearly a decade. That was a debacle, and all cause his staff was "mean" to McCoy who was our anointed one at the time. I have zero doubt we would have been in the AFC championship by now had we kept him. Like Pettine or not we're stuck with him, we can't fire a coach for awhile or it's the dark ages for Cleveland football....some of you will be dead by the time the Browns sniff a .500 season again. Do we want to be the Raiders? If you think being a Browns fan is miserable.......

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/467924https://brownsboard.com/post/467924Thu, 01 Jan 2015 22:41:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Have the Browns Ever Had the Right Coach Since 99? on Thu, 01 Jan 2015 21:19:47 GMT]]>I do wonder, maybe the Gipper or somebody could look this up, but around the league what's the average occurrence of coaches lasting less than two seasons for other teams?

As for any of those coaches In N Out in the blink of an eye of course I would wonder what a 3 year tenure might have produced. At any rate the act of replacement didn't seem to help. Of all of them I guess I'd have liked to see Eric Mangini get another roll of the dice. Who knows?

WSS

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@texasag1969 said:

I think Pettine is the man. I'm not as certain about his O coordinator however. Just not sold yet.

Fo sho, I wouldn't complain at all if we lost Shanahan (but the only way we're going to have a different OC is if he got an HC job, which he wouldn't) - not that he doesn't deserve more time I just wouldn't mind an immediate improvement.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/467887https://brownsboard.com/post/467887Thu, 01 Jan 2015 21:02:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Have the Browns Ever Had the Right Coach Since 99? on Thu, 01 Jan 2015 19:40:55 GMT]]>I think Pettine is the man. I'm not as certain about his O coordinator however. Just not sold yet.

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@usfbrown said:

I always liked Mangini and his philosophy. I might take heat for saying it but I thought the team player hard for him.

But the flip side he hasn't had another hc opportunity, maybe raiders, since so maybe he wasn't so good.

Mangini certainly did not seem as "relatable" as Pet has or Butch did, but I think his Coordinators made up for him. Certainly was true of Rob Ryan on the D-side.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/467860https://brownsboard.com/post/467860Thu, 01 Jan 2015 17:46:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Have the Browns Ever Had the Right Coach Since 99? on Thu, 01 Jan 2015 16:16:07 GMT]]>I don't think Halsam is like Jerry Jones at all. Jimmy is in front of the camera about 2-3 times a year. Jerry is in front of the camera almost daily. Jimmy is NOT the GM like Jerry is.

I like Jimmy way more then Randy Lerner. Jimmy seems committed to the team. Randy just paid people to run it for him.

As for the coaching since 1999, I liked Butch Davis. I would have liked him to not be GM and just coach. He could have done well IMO

Pettine is decent so far. He seems to have a clue what he's doing, ( unlike Pat Shurmer ) and he isn't putting up with the knuckleheads on this team either.

I think we are headed for good things, if they can get rid of the selfish idiots

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