@unsympathetic said:

How does Fox suck?

You design a defense that allows Jake Delhomme to get to the Super Bowl or get to the second round of the playoffs with Tim Tebow.

Four years in Denver, four division championships, one Conference championship ... ya, he blows.

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@pumpkin-eater said:

only problem is that that never happened....who did he take from 1-15 to the Super Bowl?

edit....ok, I found it and stand corrected....though Id say that wasn't really a 1-15 team as much as it looks more like seifert drove a 7-9 team off a cliff and Fox got them back to where they belonged.....on the same note, that team also went from 12-4 to 2-14 in the same amount of time....so, there's that....

@unsympathetic said:

Fox sucks. He is a replacement-level coach.

Yeah. All coaches that take teams from 1-15 to the Super Bowl in two years are shitty.

@the-gipper said:

Most things get broken on twitter first these days, especially in the world of sports.

@unsympathetic said:

At this point perhaps.....but he is one of only a handful that have led two different teams to the Super Bowl.

@mudfly said:

With Jim Mora Sr.

(I assumed you were asking that trivia question)

But, no matter what his regular season record is, you cannot ignore 0-6 in the playoffs.....tied for the worst ever for a HC

91: 3-13

92: 5-11

93: 3-13

94: 3-13

95: 7-9

96: 8-8

97: 7-9

98: 3-13

99: 4-12

00: 4-12

01: 6-10

02: 2-14

Lewis Era:

03: 8-8

04: 8-8

05: 11-5

06: 8-8

07: 7-9

08: 4-11-1

09: 10-6

10: 4-12

11: 9-7

12:10-6

13:11-5

14:10-5-1

*Not one winning season in the 12 years before Lewis. One.500 season.

After Lewis 6 winning seasons, three .500 seasons and only 3 losing seasons. Lewis is like Marty he can't win a playoff game but he certainly is better than any coach before him in the last dozen years. The Bengals should look at that before firing him. JMO. I don't care what they do though, I only care what the Browns do.

@the-gipper said:

Yeah- this is directed at Walter. You have to be careful with Twitter- it's why I don't bother with it.

Incidentally- that Tweet about Cardale Jones was a fraud. Got my hopes up for a few hours. So check how many followers the guy has before you spew to this board. The real Adam Schefter has 3.4 million followers, not 150.

@jrb12711 said:

yep.....the Schottenheimer effect......great teams that cant get over the hump do sometimes cut chase, believing the time is now and this guy aint getting it....

And I Can't believe Marv still has his job......I woulda fired him LAST year...ha!

@oldbrownsfan said:

Like I said, I hope Denver goes into a slide similar to what the Browns have had for 15 years. Bring back the vertical socks.

@oldbrownsfan said:

I suppose it's the same argument Cincy could be making with Marvin Lewis in the near future. I'm not saying it's true one way or the other, but there's only so many times before you make the postseason and fail before you change direction in some manner.

(nevertheless I do understand that is supposed to be the case)