@tour2ma said:

Guys got 10,000 posts and the post in a Philly thread that Foles was benched, hmmmm

I'd be surprised if Tennessee doesn't take him at #2

@baconhound said:

you are correct, it amazes that guys come in here to talk football and really don't watch football

Nice self-serving, bullshit comment there. I think I can better it though.

Amazes me, the guys that come in here who watch football, but never think about what they are watching.

@mudfly said:

I guess for the sake of this discussion, Im assuming they are enamored with Marriotta and need picks to move up......and they gave a 3rd to get foles, so if they can get better then that, it may work for them.....I dunno.....personally, Id take Foles, but no way for my first rounders......Id give more like a 2nd or 3rd....or maybe a player....or how about our running QB for their pocket QB......ha!

But that deal does not get Chip closer to Mariotta, Mud.

I know blockbuster trades are few and far between these days, but that's what this would take. That's why other Philly players would have to come our way as well.

To boot it would have to be a 3-way trade adding the team with the Mariotta grade #1 to mix. Right now odds are that pick is TN's #2 overall... and they "need" a QB.

@browns52 said:

... why the hell would foles even want to come here...

A starting job in the NFL?

@baconhound said:

Foles wasn't great his rookie year but was in year 2. Last season he had regressed a bit and then got hurt. I can't see Philly moving away from him and giving up significant draft picks to get Marriota who has never played a down in the NFL. If you are going to get Tampa to part with the number 1 pick and you are Philly you are giving up at least 2 number 1s and a number 2.

If, as reports are indicating, Chip has interest in his former QB, Mariotta, then Foles has little future value for the Eagles, but decent value to aid pursuit of a Mariotta pick. I do not think that pick will have to be the #1 overall.

The Browns have the picks to help make get Chip Mariotta.

Maybe 2+2 won't equal 4 here, but maybe it could.

@mudfly said:

And they have Tampa, Tennessee, Jets, St. Louis and possibly Washington and Bears who may all be looking at a QB. I'd take Foles because he is better than anything we currently have on the roster but knowing the moves that have to take place for Philly to pull this off and what we would have to give up to even help this along, it seems like draft rumor only.

@mudfly said:

And if Philly gets rid of a guy two years removed from being a pro bowl QB what does that say about their feelings on his ability.

The Redskins wouldn't trade Kirk Cousins and he had 3 good games as an NFL QB

@mudfly said:

you are correct, it amazes that guys come in here to talk football and really don't watch football

@browns52 said:

we are left with whoever we draft or trade for......whether someone "wants" to come here or not is totally irrelevant, considering players cant choose who trades for them or picks em in the draft....

And "good" free agent QB's dont really exist, so it's not like we've actually tried to sign one and he turned us down....

So, if the Eagles elect to trade him to Cleveland, then Foles will play here whether he wants to or not.....period

@browns52 said:

if he gets traded then he has no choice. if we were to get him in FA in '16 then it'd be about the money.

it's always about the money.

@texasag1969 said:

i really don't think the new oc is going to want johnny shitzeil as a starting qb...the guys out getting hammered every night and doesn't even know a single play in the playbook...and if i am hoyer, i want out of cleveland asap....so what are we left with...oops with that said, why the hell would foles even want to come here...nobody does..that's why we had shit qb's since 99...

@miktoxic said:

yes.....broken collar bone if I recall correctly.....

@baconhound said:

Foles wasn't great his rookie year but was in year 2. Last season he had regressed a bit and then got hurt. I can't see Philly moving away from him and giving up significant draft picks to get Marriota who has never played a down in the NFL. If you are going to get Tampa to part with the number 1 pick and you are Philly you are giving up at least 2 number 1s and a number 2.

Well apparently something changed to drop him to the level of backup. Or below.

Still any failure on the part of the Philadelphia Eagles will bring cheer to me.

WSS

@westside-steve said:

Foles wasn't great his rookie year but was in year 2. Last season he had regressed a bit and then got hurt. I can't see Philly moving away from him and giving up significant draft picks to get Marriota who has never played a down in the NFL. If you are going to get Tampa to part with the number 1 pick and you are Philly you are giving up at least 2 number 1s and a number 2.

WSS

@jcam222 said:

The whole idea that an NFL franchise would not only get rid of a franchise QB but give up draft choices to get a complete unknown is insane. If Kelly wasn't the coach this would be laughable.

@baconhound said:

I'm calling bullshit

@jcam222 said:

Would you give our first rounder number 19 and our 2nd round pick for Philly's 1st and 2nd from 2016 AND Foles? Flame away

@texasag1969 said:

I find it somewhat amusing that the Browns fans are always in search of the next "savior" like Ian Malcolm of Jurassic Park always in search of "the next ex-Mrs. Malcolm".

It would be nice to allow the new OC to find out for himself what he has on hand before the fans trade again. LOL!

That's why we're here... to amuse you.

You always have to be looking for your next QB... especially since we don't have one right now.

@tiamat63 said:

Not a chance in hell the Iggles give up Fletcher or Johnson. Those two, aside from a franchise QB are cornerstone's to that team.

Also, perhaps I'm not understanding the obsession with Foles? He looked great in Kelly's system year one. Not so much in year 2.

Sanchez looked like he might have his career and 1st round status revived the first few games under Chip, not so much after other teams had film on him.

Why should we look at Foles any different then we look at Sanchez?

Like jrb, I liked Foles coming out of AZ. He was my sleeper QB in the class of 2012. He's done nothing but reinforce my opinion that he has nice, NFL-grade, role QB potential. Again, as jrb pointed out, as a role guy in his Chip debut he prospered. As "the guy" in year two, he stumbled. I'm happy with going after him as a piece; I do not see "the guy" in him or anyone else we might have a shot at.

As for the trade, you never know unless you ask... I agree that Cox is probably untouchable, but he and Barwin would certainly address needs whereas Johnson would "merely" be an upgrade.

Who knows who else we have on roster that Chip likes?

@gftchris said:

No that was Mack brown at Texas that was only offering as a safety. Kelly wanted him as a QB.

PS-the fact that JM won the Heisman while Mack lacked a QB is one of the main reasons Texas fired Brown. Manziel was a life long Longhorn fan but would not go anywhere that would not play him as a QB. MB never lived that choice down. Biggest recruiting mistake of an otherwise illustrious recruiting career at Texas.

@texasag1969 said:

I was under the impression that was because Oregon wouldn't play him at QB though?

@miktoxic said:

And we can get a bidding war going between him and Jerrah!

I am sure most are aware that JM had originally committed to Chip at Oregon before switching closer to home with the A&M offer.

plus the price would not be near as high as it will be for Mariota.