<![CDATA[The Drive and The Fumble]]>I was around 5/6 years old so obviously wasn't watching 🙂.

I have of course though, heard the stories regards these but tonight they showed both these matches on TV here in England.

Heartbreaking endings. I can't imagine what it must have been like watching those games live as fans. As much as I want a playoff appearance I don't want to go through that.

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@the-gipper said:

National Football League and Cleveland Browns titles.

You have heard of the National Football League? And you have heard of the Cleveland Browns?

(though I suspect you are probably a Steeler fan....so it is 50/50 on whether you can count to 13...at least not without taking your shoes off)

he must be a stoolers fan, they think football started in 1970

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@larryfine said:

Does this include High school and pee wee titles?

National Football League and Cleveland Browns titles.

You have heard of the National Football League? And you have heard of the Cleveland Browns?

(though I suspect you are probably a Steeler fan....so it is 50/50 on whether you can count to 13...at least not without taking your shoes off)

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@the-gipper said:

Cleveland area has 13 championships....'20, 22, 23, 24, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 54, 55, 64

Buffalo has 2. '64, 65.

Does this include High school and pee wee titles?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/475103https://brownsboard.com/post/475103Sat, 31 Jan 2015 00:09:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Drive and The Fumble on Fri, 30 Jan 2015 23:56:44 GMT]]>It was the first I'd seen of Kosar too, he could float a ball beautifully. Very accurate.

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@gftchris said:

This was on TV here? Damn, missed that, what channel?

Sky Sports 3, been lots of old footage on and what they're calling "gold" matches in the build up to SB.

Zombo said:

This miss is at :57.

Zombo

They didn't show that, my god that looks wide for sure.

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Brady's Ball Sack said:

And then what....

Bills got on the bus and cried?

Zombo

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Brady's Ball Sack said:

Zero championships..

???????

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Brady's Ball Sack said:

Zero championships..

Cleveland area has 13 championships....'20, 22, 23, 24, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 54, 55, 64

Buffalo has 2. '64, 65.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/474643https://brownsboard.com/post/474643Thu, 29 Jan 2015 18:49:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Drive and The Fumble on Thu, 29 Jan 2015 16:34:28 GMT]]>Looking forward to seeing that kind of excitement with the Browns again. I think we are close but I am the eternal optimist with this club.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/474596https://brownsboard.com/post/474596Thu, 29 Jan 2015 16:34:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Drive and The Fumble on Thu, 29 Jan 2015 16:06:48 GMT]]>THAT was a great game!....Clay Mathews.slammed the door on Jim Kelly.....twas SWEET!!!!!

And Bruce Smith, as he walks off the field, is like listen to all these fans....holy ker AP!

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/474593https://brownsboard.com/post/474593Thu, 29 Jan 2015 16:06:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Drive and The Fumble on Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:32:23 GMT]]>Speaking of playoffs, we played them once. This happened:

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/474584https://brownsboard.com/post/474584Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:32:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Drive and The Fumble on Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:24:25 GMT]]>and.....add the fact that the BILLS have the longest current playoff drought in the league.....not since 1999.......

I think Bills fan has given up trying to fit in and just gone full blown troll now.......

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Zombo said:

Dude, quit trolling Browns threads.

NFL Championships:

Browns 4

Bills 0

Throats slashed:

OJ 2

JB 0

Zombo

And then there is this. 1948 Championship game. Check it out:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/194812190cle.htm

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Brady's Ball Sack said:

OJ...

The good old days. Reminds me of way back to the Cleveland Browns made it to a Super Bowl....oh wait.. Sorry... ...fumbled on the one.. and never recovered.

Dude, quit trolling Browns threads.

NFL Championships:

Browns 4

Bills 0

Throats slashed:

OJ 2

JB 0

Zombo

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/474576https://brownsboard.com/post/474576Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:09:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Drive and The Fumble on Thu, 29 Jan 2015 00:29:34 GMT]]>I kinda liked him too...a good solid, though sometimes stubborn, coach ......

very nice guy, but square as they come....and he had that gleem...

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/474490https://brownsboard.com/post/474490Thu, 29 Jan 2015 00:29:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Drive and The Fumble on Thu, 29 Jan 2015 00:25:41 GMT]]>I always liked Marty but he got treated even worse by the Chargers when they fired him after an 14-2 regular season record.

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VesnaKociper said:

The DRIVE was not the worst thing ever. Elway's Drive only tied the game. It was Bernie Kosar who single-handedly lost that game.

You go ahead and watch the film. The Browns WON the toss, and got the ball first. Kosar, who was great at coming from behind, was, IMHO a total coward when he had a lead or the game was tied. If you watch the film you will see the Denver players making fun of Kosar and chanting over and over " he's playing not to lose -we're going to win, he's playing not to lose"!

Kosar was a jackoff and a coward that day. I don't want to hear your bullshit about Marty, Marty coached a great game and the Browns were the better team. You can't blame the D for being gassed on the Drive. Marty had nothing to do with this shit.

I hear all the time about Bernie being the smartest QB in football, and how his audible skills were better than anyone else. Well, I don't give a shit what plays Marty sent out to him, Kosar was faggot that day. He dropped his pants, bent over and asked Elway to cornhole him. Elway didn't deflate the football. That game was a heartbreaker, but it was Kosar's to win. It was his opportunity of a lifetime; a defining moment.

Kosar could have elevated himself to the level of Marino, Fouts, Stabler, Elway, Staubach and many other greats. Instead? Around the NFL fans think of him in the class of Testeverde, O'Donell, and Bledsoe.

"He's playing not to lose" _ That is Kosar's legacy.

i would not call bernie a coward, however i do believe if kosar was calling the plays on that overtime possesion, he fucked up...i totally agree, i knew when it was 3rd down and he handed the ball to fotenot and fontenot got blasted the game was over....i could not believe kosar did not pass, it was his moment and he failed..i cannot recall the first 2 plays before the 3rd down screwup...however if marty called the play from the sidelines, then it was marty's fault and not bernies...never heard anything about who called that boneheaded play...

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Zombo said:

And here's the Bills greatest NFL moment:

That is AWESOME!!!!!

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/474457https://brownsboard.com/post/474457Wed, 28 Jan 2015 20:45:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Drive and The Fumble on Wed, 28 Jan 2015 20:05:13 GMT]]>I was 12/13 for The Drive/The Fumble. I remember it for sure. During the Drive, when Elway had to start back at the 2, I was like "no problem". But they kept moving the chains and I remember thinking "why can't they stop them??". It was a slo-mo train wreck. The Fumble I took harder. Who didn't, after dealing with the Drive just the year previous? I mean to lose like that two times in a row during AFC Championship game?? I think I pretty much sat back quietly in my bedroom for the rest of the day. I also remember afterwards hearing caused the fumble...Castille...and hating him with a passion. You can bet your ass I was bitterly happy when the Broncos lost all three Super Bowls, particularly those lopsided losses. I also wondered how the Browns would've done against those same teams. No doubt better than that to say the least.

I hate Elway, I hate the Broncos, so Peyton would you just leave the team so I can hate them to 100% full capacity again?

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Brady's Ball Sack said:

And to think that was the Browns greatest NFL moment.

And here's the Bills greatest NFL moment:

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Zombo

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/474443https://brownsboard.com/post/474443Wed, 28 Jan 2015 19:56:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Drive and The Fumble on Wed, 28 Jan 2015 18:06:20 GMT]]>I was at "The Drive," and yes, the FG was wide left. I remember this shit like it was yesterday.

Prevent defense- Marty took Puzzoli off the field after a sack, to force a 3rd & 19 (the only Brown to touch Elway all damn day), and somehow a hand off to Herman Fontenot on 3rd & 2 on the Browns only possession of OT lead to the loss (we had Mack & Byner, remember). I remember how silent the stadium was- nobody said a word to each other until we got near the old Fagan's Bar in the Flats.

The Browns were the best team in the NFL in 1986. They came into the playoffs on a 5 game winning streak, but played poorly the week before against the NY Jets. Mark Gastineau basically gave the Browns new life when he cheap-shotted Kosar with about 2:30 to go, and Bernie brought the Browns back from a 20-10 deficit to force OT.

The Fumble was more painful, as the Browns erased a 24-3 deficit. Byner might of had the game of his life that day, but is only remembered for that strip fumble. The bottom line is the Broncos had the Browns number, still do (I think they are 5-19 in the all time series vs Denver).

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/474416https://brownsboard.com/post/474416Wed, 28 Jan 2015 18:06:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Drive and The Fumble on Wed, 28 Jan 2015 18:51:08 GMT]]>I was 6 7 and 9 respectively when the browns blew those games watching with my uncles who were and are huge browns fans and I more or less credit the browns for my cynical outlook on life

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/474405https://brownsboard.com/post/474405Wed, 28 Jan 2015 18:51:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Drive and The Fumble on Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:04:05 GMT]]>I was mid 20's.....and remember both all too well.....

People like to talk about the "prevent defense" that cost us....which I agree with.....hell, we had the BEST FUCKING PAIR OF CB's ON THE PLANET!!!!.....TRUST THEM TO DO WHAT THEY DID ALL YEAR GODDAMMIT!!!!!!!!

Should have blitzed the shit out of Elway and trusted those DB's to shut things down....Instead we rushed 3 and sat back..argghhh!!!

And Karlis did miss....

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