@the-cysko-kid said:

Exactly right. They ARE irrelevent in the national scheme of things

they have sucked for 6 of the last 7 years.

You have NO ARGUMENT. NONE.

You embarrass yourself here over and over.

@browns149 said:

Yes, moving up is a good thing. You called Harbaugh a quitter for only being places 4 years. The first two times he left somewhere he objectively moved up. This last time, whether you think so or not, he moved up again. He could have gone to over a dozen NFL teams if he wanted to, but went back to his home. Whether you agree or disagree it doesn't matter. Point is, he had plenty of other NFL options and came here. That's a step up in his eyes.

Quitting is getting a headache and leaving when your best player (and choir boy to distract from the criminals on your team) leaves and your team gets bad. There is no way you can call Harbaugh a "quitter" without making Urban one too.

Also, names like "Harbutt" and "Wishigan", while they may give all of your OSU buddies here chubbies, don't do anything to help your argument. Just letting you know. My argument is generally based around your ignorance of the coach and the situation, and comments like that help prove it.

So yes, continue to pretend Harbuagh is a "quitter" and a bad coach. Whatever makes you feel better I guess.

Moving up moving up is a good thing

Urban Meyer did that and the landed in Florida

He stayed there for 6 years. Harbut has never been anywhere for more then 4 years

And now Meyer is going into his 4th year at OSU.

He will be at OSU when harbutt quits at wishagan

Whatever it takes to try to insult Michigan I guess. Common sense be damned.

@mld-woody said:

I have no problem saying harbutt is a good coach.

He is a good coach

But he is a quiter. He quits for a better job

And now he he is at the bottom of the college ranks

As soon as a good NFL job comes calling, he will bolt

The NYG are his next stop

@the-cysko-kid said:

Oh god, I'm not looking to do this whole conversation again. If you honestly think Harbaugh is a bad coach, you're a lost cause. If you're honestly trying to cherry pick whatever you can to act like he isn't as good of a coach as he is, to make some piss poor attempt at discrediting Michigan's hire, then I'm done.

It isn't worth it to argue with a wall.

@browns149 said:

I get it. You're an OSU fan. Congrats.

Calling Michigan an "irrelevant team" makes you just look like a moron. It doesn't show how great of a fan you are or anything. It just makes you look stupid.

@mld-woody said:

I would say 3 straight NFC championship appearances and 1 SB appearance is pretty good. Unless you're going to sit here and pretend like that sucks (to push the "Harbaugh sucks" angle). In which case, how many NFL coaches would "suck"? You really need to be a completely moron or just have your head in the sand to act like Harbaugh was a bad coach, at any level.

Same thing as before though. "Harbaugh sucks" "Even if he doesn't suck he'll just leave" blah blah blah. We did this all a month ago. It was laughable then and it is laughable now.

He inherited that team you me and everyone knows that. He didn't win the championship and then they "mutually" parted which is a nice way of saying he was fired if he didn't quit. The team played fine so it boils down to him doesn't it?

@mld-woody said:

Moved up, moved up, and now took a huge step backwards.

Going from the NFL to an irrelevant college team, has got to hurt the ego.

He will have numerous chances to move up again, seeing as he's almost at the bottom now

@the-cysko-kid said:

I would say 3 straight NFC championship appearances and 1 SB appearance is pretty good. Unless you're going to sit here and pretend like that sucks (to push the "Harbaugh sucks" angle). In which case, how many NFL coaches would "suck"? You really need to be a completely moron or just have your head in the sand to act like Harbaugh was a bad coach, at any level.

Same thing as before though. "Harbaugh sucks" "Even if he doesn't suck he'll just leave" blah blah blah. We did this all a month ago. It was laughable then and it is laughable now.

@browns149 said:

Moved up. Moved up. And then left for his hometown school (his leaving of the 49ers was mainly forced by ownership, and not agreed on by the players and fans. And now the 49ers are making pretty terrible decisions trying to rehire a staff).

You can wish he'll be gone in 3 or less years if you like, but it isn't going to happen. I would just wish for Meyer's good health before anything else (and that he avoids the coeds).

@mld-woody said:

... he signed what we had room for.... like I've said... a bunch of times...

He could have gone to a dozen different NFL teams, but he came to Michigan. He may head back to the NFL some day, but it will be awhile. If he wanted to be in the NFL now, he still would be. Plenty of teams would have dropped who they had for the 5th highest win percentage NFL coach of all time...

Win percentage is fine and dandy but championships sway people more than win percentage ever could.

@mld-woody said:

He has had 3 head coaching jobs and he stayed 3 years, 4 years, and 4 years.

This job will be 3 years and out, if not sooner. BOOK IT!!!!

@browns149 said:

... he signed what we had room for.... like I've said... a bunch of times...

He could have gone to a dozen different NFL teams, but he came to Michigan. He may head back to the NFL some day, but it will be awhile. If he wanted to be in the NFL now, he still would be. Plenty of teams would have dropped who they had for the 5th highest win percentage NFL coach of all time...

It's USC, BAMA, UCLA, OSU etc.

Ohio State is like a Macy's department store.

Michigan is a shirt laying on the ground.

He will be gone in 3 years or less.

Soon as a decent NFL teams calls, he's gone

There was a thread where he kept trying to bait me into telling him what school i went to so he could use the same queerish argument.

(unless we signed a bunch of extra guys then started "making space" cough cough cough)

@mld-woody said:

ESPN does and that's how they ranked them. I trust ESPN on this more then what you think about it