Yup... Crow is a one-cut guy and we were without a one-cut line mid-season.

I keep seeing Cam listed as a prospective Center, but can only find tape on him at OT, mostly LT. Anyone know what's up with that??? Anyone have a link to any tape of him at Center?

All I know is that at OT he looks long and gangly and those are not exactly qualities you'd list for interior guys.

That said, he was an effective, if not pretty, OT for FSU.

A Cleveland guy who went to Mount Union. I am liking him as a FA. He could be a solid WR2 in the right system and with a decent QB. He has missed 8 games in 3 years as a starter due to injuries, but when he's played in 3 years he's put up:

174 catches for 2313 yards and 11 TDs which is

58 for 771 and 3.6 TD's per year as a starter...

I don't know much about his effort, severity of injuries, etc... I wonder what he might cost in FA??

Yup... Crow is a one-cut guy and we were without a one-cut line mid-season.

I keep seeing Cam listed as a prospective Center, but can only find tape on him at OT, mostly LT. Anyone know what's up with that??? Anyone have a link to any tape of him at Center?

All I know is that at OT he looks long and gangly and those are not exactly qualities you'd list for interior guys.

That said, he was an effective, if not pretty, OT for FSU.

Give West the damn ball. Fuckers keep sitting him cause he boasts they need to give him the ball. Afraid that he's right. T.o boasted he was the talent so give him the ball too. Ya know what he was right and everyone hated him for it.

1 - Sign Locker, Mallett, or Hoyer with a plan to start them. They compete with Manziel and Shaw. Also, draft a QB in the 3rd or 4th (Grayson, Hundley, Mannion, or Petty) in case none of these guys can stay healthy or develop.

2 - Sign a competent WR like Shorts, T.Smith, or Britt. Draft a WR, really anywhere. I would consider using a 1st rounder on WR, but there are many competent guys throughout the draft. The important things are 1) Bringing somebody in with some height, and 2) Getting a down-field threat...

3 - Get a TE. If we decide not to keep Cameron, we need to make a push at a starting TE like Clay or J.Thomas. I'd like to see us draft a decent TE prospect as well.

4 - We need to get a 6th lineman for depth in case of injury. I'd love to sign Orlando Franklin or Iupati so we could demote Greco or Schwartz to our 6th lineman, BUT I wouldn't make it a priority. Other than those two, there really isn't much FA talent that would be an obvious upgrade, or worth the investment. I think we could use a pick or two on some G/T prospects, but I'd rather we find a deep prospect than use an early pick. We already have 2 1st rounders and 2 2nd rounders and a 3rd rounder on our line so we have already invested heavily on the guys we have, and they were a damn-near elite unit before Mack went down. The key is finding somebody with versatility.

5 - Bring in a veteran RB to work alongside our 3 young horses, and for Pete's sake get a FB on the roster...

4 Draft picks, and 4 Free Agents

Fixed...

Non-conference schedule doesn't mean sh**. We need to win games within the division...

I think why you see people with little hope for 2015 is a downgrade at QB and the out of conference schedule.

2014 beat Saints (terrible), Titans (horrible), Raiders (maybe worse than the Browns), Bucs (see last comment) & Falcons (horrible year)

2014 lost to Jags (enough said), Texans (non-playoff team) & Panthers (playoff team) and the Jags and Texans throttled us.

5 of the Browns 7 wins came in close games against shit teams.

2015 non-conference schedule Denver, Oakland, Arizona, San Fran, Tennessee, Kansas City, St. Louis, Seattle and the Jets. 6 of those 8 games will be against superior teams and we will need to win at least 5 if we go .500 in the division.

man...people/women/kids.....the sky ain't falling. if mack coulda stayed healthy all year we prob be 2+ wins better in the W-L column and all people could bitch about is new contracts to a TE and a QB.

as people have said west sat cuz he sat the ball on the turf as did crowell. anyone of our RBs could leave and i wouldn't be mad. show me a dude in so. central sligging crack and i'll show you the next HOF RB. the browns need OL help LIKE I"VE BEEN SAYING FOr the last 3 years on the FUCKING right side. i know people likt ot defend schwartz but give it up, the dude is a bum. i don't care about %s and shit, what i see is what i knwo and the right side has been a sieve for yearsnow. then a backup center and the next up-and-comer OT cuz JT ain't getting any younger.

this of course AFTER we draft the best 2 DL 1 and 2.

LOL... I took Collins at 19 or so in a First-Pick sim.

No trades were being offered.

I said "Gip got hurt last year and Whitner is no spring chicken... WTF..."

Plus the guy is big enough to work in an LB role in some Ds...

The Sim gave me an A- for my effort.

In First-Pick I've seen more than a few runs where our 2nd #1 pick at 19, and down, lands in a wasteland for need.

LOL... I took Collins at 19 or so in a First-Pick sim.

I said "Gip got hurt last year and Whitner is no spring chicken... WTF..."

Plus the guy is big enough to work in an LB role in some Ds...

The Sim gave me an A- for my effort.

In First-Pick I've seen more than a few runs where our 2nd #1 pick at 19, and down, lands in a wasteland for need.

Going out on a limb here, but I am honestly more concerned with fixing our Run D than our O.

Greater concern for me up the middle of the D.

Pick up someone like Cecil Shorts and Charles Clay in FA. While using one first round pick on an NT like Shelton or Brown, use the other on a big receiver like Fowler or White. Use the second rounder on an OL that can compete on the right side - the starting 5 are pretty good, but depth is shocking. At QB, fuck knows, but if you have a skill group now looking like:

QB - Manziel, Shaw

RB - Crowell, West, Winston

WR - Shorts, Fowler, Hawkins, Gabriel, Benjamin

TE - Clay, Barnidge, Dray

Then a solid QB like Hoyer (why the fuck not, the players know and respect him) can give a solid performance. Give time for whoever we decide is the QB of the future - Manziel, Shaw, or someone else - to develop.

So, we know our defense is going to be pretty good again this coming year but whether we like it or not, we are re-building on offense... yet again. The roster on that side of the ball is "weak" at best and we have nearly an entire new coaching staff which means new system, new players they will covet, etc...

Nobody is a DeFilippo expert, and I doubt any of us really know what kind of system he wants to run so let me ask you guys what you might do with this team from a roster and system perspective?

Here is our current crop of o-linemen:

Tackles - Thomas (LT), Schwartz (RT), McQuistan, A.McDonald, Bowie

Guards - Bitonio (LG), Greco (RG), Barton, Painter

Centers - Mack , McDonald, Hughlett (LS)

Is there a weak spot in that starting 5? If so, how much do you invest to improve this line? Not only that, but what kind of blocking scheme fits these guys best? In my opinion, this is a solid group but need a versatile G/T player in case we lose another starter next year... McQuiston is NOT that guy...

Here are our "skill position" players:

QB - Manziel, Shaw

RB - Crowell, West, Winston

WR - Hawkins, Gabriel, Benjamin, R.Smith, Bates, Cone

TE - Barnidge, Dray

OH JEEZ... doesn't that strike fear into opposing defensive coordinators!?!? What the he** do we do about this group to make them legit? Here is where I am totally lost...

Any thoughts?