<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[On-side kick flaw.]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Say baseball had a rule where you threw at the hitter, hit him, and it bounced to the catcher.  Now his team is up.  On-side kick is stupid, get rid of it.  Why punish the team that worked to build a lead.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/topic/31876/on-side-kick-flaw.</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2026 09:13:15 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://brownsboard.com/topic/31876.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 03:22:29 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 20:13:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Just in.  The Browns are moving to L.A.  The second largest TV market has needed a team for a while.  Good for them.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477408</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477408</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippinTurtles]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 20:13:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 20:06:26 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>No more roughing the punter penalties. Punting is for sissys anyway. <img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f606.png?v=aee8435e68b" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--laughing" title=":laughing:" alt="😆" /></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477402</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477402</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[TexasAg1969]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 20:06:26 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 19:50:40 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/skippinturtles" aria-label="Profile: skippinturtles">@<bdi>skippinturtles</bdi></a> <a href="/post/477255">said</a>:</p><div><p>My team won 'cuz the kicker made the ball bounce funny.  So cool.  How about kick the other team's ass without the artificial bullshit.</p></div></blockquote>
<p>FYI trick plays have been around almost as long as football.</p>

<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/skippinturtles" aria-label="Profile: skippinturtles">@<bdi>skippinturtles</bdi></a> <a href="/post/477283">said</a>:</p><div><p>Packer fans must have been thrilled getting fucked out of a Super Bowl chance on a bullshit on-side kick.  Aaron Rodgers was banged up but he got his team in position to win.  OP doesn't have 100,000 posts so his opinion is shit.  Doesn't matter, his opinion is shit anyway.</p></div></blockquote>

<p>Then recover the damn ball. Browns got beat a few years back by the Patriots the same way.</p>

<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/chicopee-john" aria-label="Profile: chicopee-john">@<bdi>chicopee-john</bdi></a> <a href="/post/477325">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>Come on.  The NFL has done its very best, IMHO, to take excitement out of the game.</p>

<p>An Onside Kick is one of the few remaining ways to get excitement at the end of a game.  Granted, they don't work all that often but the do put some drama where drama is do.</p>

<p>Here is another idea that, I believe, will return NFL games to some sort of 'mystery'.</p>

<p>Kickoffs have become so lame - seems like the vast majority of them are Touchbacks.  Like with the NBA when they stopped Jump Balls every time there was a 'tie up', the NFL might consider taking kickoffs off the table and - instead - give the receiving team on the 20 yard line.  If compromise is needed, how about the 25 yard line.  How many kickoffs are returned beyond the 25 yard line any way.</p>


<p>Move the hash marks way, way wider so FGs become more of a challenge, encouraging teams to go for First Downs / Touch Downs rather simply bring their auto-kicker on the field  to kick a ball straight for, say, 40 yards.  This is crazy but, how about detracting a point if a team misses a FG?</p>

<p>Maybe 7 points for a TD and no need for a PAT unless they choose to go for 2 points.  Speed up the games more.</p>

<p>The problem, or one of the problems with any of these is they might result in less commercial time (GOD is it miserable sitting at a game when all the TV commercials are run.  For crying out loud, the players have to do exercises to keep limber through these, seemingly, unending and unnecessary time-lags take place.</p>

<p>Some food for thought.</p>

<p>Feel free to criticize any of the above but, to be more productive, try making a few suggestions of your own to make the game more 'fan friendly'.  On the field stuff, not simply lowering ticket prices, etc.</p>
</div></blockquote>

<p>Well, after watching the Pro Bowl- I think there's one experiment that's going to get instituted. Make the goal posts 4' narrower- and make the PAT snap from the 15 yard line. Vinaterri missed a couple extra points. Kickers have just gotten too darn good. I'm old enough to remember when the goal posts were ON the goal line- they can't move them back any farther.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477394</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477394</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[hoorta]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 19:50:40 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 18:41:00 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Punting.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477393</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477393</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippinTurtles]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 18:41:00 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:46:44 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Kicking.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477384</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477384</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippinTurtles]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:46:44 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:22:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Personally I think there is nothing more entertaining then the surprise onside kicks.  Seeing the oh Sh!t look of the front group trying to stop, and turn to get the ball.  Even if the offense recovers the defense can still hold them.  I like it.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477376</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477376</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[BitchTits]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:22:04 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:14:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/mark-o" aria-label="Profile: mark-o">@<bdi>mark-o</bdi></a> <a href="/post/477297">said</a>:</p><div><p>This ranks right up there with the assclown who tried to convince us that the winning team "kneeling down" to run out the clock was a bullshit way to win a game and it shouldn't be allowed.</p></div></blockquote>
<p>and the funny thing is that the "kneel down" is what we would get if they outlawed onside kicks.....every time....</p>

<p>yeah, THATS exciting.......and much more fair to both teams...not!</p>

<p>here's an interesting fact...only 3 teams kicked more on side kicks than GB in 2014......So, the team that lost because of one, is one of the teams that kick the most......kind of ironic, eh??</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477368</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477368</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mudfly]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:14:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:06:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to say 10 or 15 yards...</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477366</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477366</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Pumpkin Eater]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:06:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:05:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah teams need to quit coming up with unique strategies to win games and should accept the loss.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477364</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477364</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LogicIsForSquares]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:05:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:00:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/pumpkin-eater" aria-label="Profile: pumpkin-eater">@<bdi>pumpkin-eater</bdi></a> <a href="/post/477292">said</a>:</p><p>Every kickoff is a free kick. Whoever recovers the ball gets possession. The rule is it has to be kicked and travel a certain distance.</p></blockquote>
<p>
You did not know the "certain" distance" off the top of your head?</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477362</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477362</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:00:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:08:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>first off.....an on-side kick isn't a <em>rule.</em>....its just a short kick off.....</p>

<p>so what you're really saying is that you want to "add" rules against short kicks, right?.....such as forcing the kickers to kick long?</p>

<p>so how would that read?.......now all kicks must travel a longer distance???.......fumbles on kick offs are no longer allowed to be recovered?........</p>

<p>and if we did that, what if the kicker screwed up and kicked a short one?....now the receiving team wont be allowed to keep it because it was short?.......</p>

<p>if we're going to suggest no more on side kicks, then Id like to know the solution to these questions???</p>

<p>or are we just complaining w/o an alternative?</p>

<p>on side kicks succeed about 15% of the time. Why not just accept that the Packers fukked up and got owned?</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477330</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477330</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mudfly]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:08:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:05:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tim-couch-pulls-out" aria-label="Profile: tim-couch-pulls-out">@<bdi>tim-couch-pulls-out</bdi></a> <a href="/post/477225">said</a>:</p><div><p>While we're at it, let's get rid of field goals. And time outs.</p></div></blockquote>
<p>Actually not bad ideas, although I'd tweak those absolutes a bit.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477327</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477327</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chicopee John]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:05:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:05:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/skippinturtles" aria-label="Profile: skippinturtles">@<bdi>skippinturtles</bdi></a> <a href="/post/477283">said</a>:</p><div><p>Packer fans must have been thrilled getting fucked out of a Super Bowl chance on a bullshit on-side kick.  Aaron Rodgers was banged up but he got his team in position to win.  OP doesn't have 100,000 posts so his opinion is shit.  Doesn't matter, his opinion is shit anyway.</p></div></blockquote>


<p>You could have 10,000,000,000,000 posts. This was still a dumb opinion.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477326</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477326</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Couch Pulls Out]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:05:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:04:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/skippinturtles" aria-label="Profile: skippinturtles">@<bdi>skippinturtles</bdi></a> <a href="/post/477213">said</a>:</p><div><p>Say baseball had a rule where you threw at the hitter, hit him, and it bounced to the catcher.  Now his team is up.  On-side kick is stupid, get rid of it.  Why punish the team that worked to build a lead.</p></div></blockquote>
<p>Come on.  The NFL has done its very best, IMHO, to take excitement out of the game.</p>

<p>An Onside Kick is one of the few remaining ways to get excitement at the end of a game.  Granted, they don't work all that often but the do put some drama where drama is do.</p>

<p>Here is another idea that, I believe, will return NFL games to some sort of 'mystery'.</p>

<p>Kickoffs have become so lame - seems like the vast majority of them are Touchbacks.  Like with the NBA when they stopped Jump Balls every time there was a 'tie up', the NFL might consider taking kickoffs off the table and - instead - give the receiving team on the 20 yard line.  If compromise is needed, how about the 25 yard line.  How many kickoffs are returned beyond the 25 yard line any way.</p>


<p>Move the hash marks way, way wider so FGs become more of a challenge, encouraging teams to go for First Downs / Touch Downs rather simply bring their auto-kicker on the field  to kick a ball straight for, say, 40 yards.  This is crazy but, how about detracting a point if a team misses a FG?</p>

<p>Maybe 7 points for a TD and no need for a PAT unless they choose to go for 2 points.  Speed up the games more.</p>

<p>The problem, or one of the problems with any of these is they might result in less commercial time (GOD is it miserable sitting at a game when all the TV commercials are run.  For crying out loud, the players have to do exercises to keep limber through these, seemingly, unending and unnecessary time-lags take place.</p>

<p>Some food for thought.</p>

<p>Feel free to criticize any of the above but, to be more productive, try making a few suggestions of your own to make the game more 'fan friendly'.  On the field stuff, not simply lowering ticket prices, etc.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477325</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477325</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chicopee John]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:04:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 15:23:15 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Nobody is saying it's perfect. Everybody is saying that your suggestion is stupid. There's a difference.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477311</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477311</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[gftChris]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 15:23:15 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 15:22:07 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Football is perfect.  Suggesting rule changes should be left to the corrupt geniuses who run the game.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477310</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477310</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippinTurtles]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 15:22:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 14:54:56 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/mark-o" aria-label="Profile: mark-o">@<bdi>mark-o</bdi></a> <a href="/post/477297">said</a>:</p><div><p>This ranks right up there with the assclown who tried to convince us that the winning team "kneeling down" to run out the clock was a bullshit way to win </p></div></blockquote>
<p>Or possibly as dumb as the rant claiming we lost by deferring after the coin toss</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477299</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477299</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mudfly]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 14:54:56 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 14:49:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>This ranks right up there with the assclown who tried to convince us that the winning team "kneeling down" to run out the clock was a bullshit way to win a game and it shouldn't be allowed.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477297</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477297</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark O]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 14:49:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 14:46:21 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tim-couch-pulls-out" aria-label="Profile: tim-couch-pulls-out">@<bdi>tim-couch-pulls-out</bdi></a> <a href="/post/477227">said</a>:</p><div><p>What's with the sudden influx of garbage on this board?</p></div></blockquote>

<p>Off season.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477295</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477295</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[TexasAg1969]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 14:46:21 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 14:42:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Every kickoff is a free kick. Whoever recovers the ball gets possession. The rule is it has to be kicked and travel a certain distance. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477292</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477292</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Pumpkin Eater]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 14:42:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 13:54:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I had a gut feeling this had something to do with the Packers play off game. <img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f601.png?v=aee8435e68b" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--grin" title=":grin:" alt="😁" /></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477284</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477284</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[OldBrownsFan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 13:54:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 13:52:13 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Packer fans must have been thrilled getting fucked out of a Super Bowl chance on a bullshit on-side kick.  Aaron Rodgers was banged up but he got his team in position to win.  OP doesn't have 100,000 posts so his opinion is shit.  Doesn't matter, his opinion is shit anyway.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477283</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477283</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippinTurtles]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 13:52:13 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 13:36:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>And what's with all these fucking lines and numbers painted on the field??? That's just distracting to those of us trying to enjoy the game.</p>

<p>WSS </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477279</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477279</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Westside Steve]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 13:36:04 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to On-side kick flaw. on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 13:35:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/douche-nozzle" aria-label="Profile: douche-nozzle">@<bdi>douche-nozzle</bdi></a> said:</p><div><p>I was being sarcastic at the OP <img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f601.png?v=aee8435e68b" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--grin" title=":grin:" alt="😁" /></p></div></blockquote>
<p>Pffft. Douche... <img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=aee8435e68b" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/477278</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/477278</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[gftChris]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 13:35:59 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>