@tour2ma said:

I just would like to see Bernie back doing the color commentary on the pre season games. I thought at first he might be a good QB coach but in reality he might be too far removed from the game now, plus the other things that go into coaching. I would not have been disappointed if Pettine had wanted him but I would rather see Pettine get the people in place he wants.

Although Bernie trying to teach "throwing over the top" could be entertaining...

Im not so sure that having knowledge adds up to being a good teacher or communicator....thats a talent being able to boil it down and instill it in another......and Bernies communication skills are lacking, if you ask me....

coaching is a profession and one that rewards hard work and effort. There are very few NFL coaches(dare I say none?) that just get "offered" a job outta the blue, some 20 years after they retire, just because.....

hey....if Kosar wanted to coach, he shoulda put himself out there 20 years ago and started learning the ropes like they all do.....

@larryfine said:

wow. very well said.

agree 100%.

now go suck some balls!

VesnaKociper said:

i always said that...it was the 3rd down play in that game that could have chg'd his career...it did not happen therefore to me, i loved the guy for all the heart he had...but that is about it...if he only had 1 iota of mobility...just 1 iota....oh well, no way an nfl hall of famer, not even close...cleveland hof, probably...

cbbacker said:

I really don't think the Browns or any other team question Kosar's football knowledge. I think the Brown's and every other team steer clear due to his myriad of off the field issues. Honestly when he was still on the TV broadcast his shifty eyes really gave me the creeps. Perhaps it was just me but it was clear there was something creepy going on in that head. If he could ever get it together I would be 100% for finding him some sort of position with the Browns. As you point out however that doesn't necessarily mean in a coaching position as the ability to play a position and the ability to teach a position can be two different things.

@douche-nozzle said:

I don't think he was making a joke.....just an observation. The last time the two teams met it was a very lopsided affair. A route. One team manhandled the other. The better team won. It was no aberration.

Certain factors later cause each team to go in a different direction. But the better team won that day.....and who is to say the same won't happen the next time they meet.

@douche-nozzle said:

Now that is funny....when you make a joke you should put a smiley face up or something to show that you are making a joke.

Well most everyone except Steeler fans are bright enough to tell the difference.

WSS

Be it fact you crave laddie, today, right now, at this point in the present the Cleveland Browns are the superior football team to the Pittsburgh Steelers and will remain such until your rabble defeats us on the field of battle should that happen again. Thank you.

WSS

VesnaKociper said:

The last article I read about Bernie he is doing very well now and I'm happy for him. I think if the Browns showed a little bit of loyalty to Bernie it would go a long way not just in helping him but it would be "therapeutic" for the Browns as well. There is something about character that will stick with an old friend and not kick them to the curb when things are going bad for them.

WSS

In 1993, the Cleveland Browns cut QB Bernie Kosar for "diminishing skills." The Cowboys, led by coach Jimmy Johnson, signed Kosar two days later – and four days later he delivered a 20-15 Dallas win against the Phoenix Cardinals. With Aikman out (hamstring) and the offense sluggish under backup Jason Garrett, Johnson turned to Kosar. Kosar completed 13 of 21 passes for 199 yards and a touchdown.

A week later, he made his only Cowboys start, a 27-14 loss to the Falcons. He completed 22 of 39 passes for 186 yards and two touchdowns.

The Cowboys would lose only one more game that season – the famous ice game on Thanksgiving against the Miami Dolphins – before winning Super Bowl XXVIII.

@douche-nozzle said:

I think the Browns history proves itself. They have an attitude just like you in which nobody is welcome in the organization unless they have nothing but 100% positive things to say about the Cleveland Browns, just like most of your posts, reality is a four letter word.

Yes I suppose that's true. So most of us aren't eager to hear negative and self serving prattling from antagonistic and uninform sources?

That's quite a revelation douche.

WSS

VesnaKociper said:

If Kosar is such a loser with no brains or athletic abiltiy....just how in the hell did the guy get us to those AFC championship games? It sure as hell wasn't Marty's prevent defense. Sometimes I have to wonder when some of you old guys are going to quit smoking weed. It's obviuosly true what they told us 40 years ago....it causes brain damage and memory loss.

@westside-steve said:

Hoyer is not my boy. He was the best we had at the time because we made a huge mistake in drafting Manziel (and I don't think I am going out on a limb saying that). I don't hate either of these guys and if JM gets help in treatment and comes back focused and gives 100 percent I will be pulling for him. There is no doubt and JM admits himself he did not put in the effort he should have this year. If he gives 100 percent that is all we can ask for, just give us your best effort.

WSS

Nickers says no one offered him a coaching job because he commented once, possibly while sober, that he didn't want to coach. For the most brilliant football man in America that's an odd decision no? And it would seem his agent at some point might say to him, Bernie you're broke and the so-and-so team is looking for an offensive coordinator what do you say? I agree with the last paragraph of Tommy's post. It would be nice to find a spot somewhere for him but I fear it might appear forced. I certainly understand the Homer ism around here but it's embarrassing to pretend he's a genius. Ask yourself what would happen if Johnny Manziel refused to run the plays coach Mike wanted and then punched the coach or pushed him in a tunnel? Would you assume it's because he's smarter than the coach? Actually I bet some of you guys would if Brian Hoyer did it. I don't know what job you guys think Bernie could do that would make the team better. And if nothing else he doesn't know anybody in the organization and has no clue what's going on in Berea.

WSS

@westside-steve said:

Maybe it was widely known Bernie had a drinking problem, and teams didn't want him for that reason? I'll tend to believe Nickers- if you really want a coaching gig- there's ways to get one.

@nickers said:

Bernie has said himself.. "he has no problem generating(making money).. So.. I don't think he really needs it"

Yeah- I would hazard a guess he's getting a nice cut of the action at the restaurant he put his name on at the Northfield Racino. BTW- if you're ever in town it's a quality place.

@westside-steve said:

While it is possible you are correct about Kosar, there are a myriad of reasons that prevent a QB from having a good coaching career. Maybe he doesn't want to move from his home, maybe he wants to be affiliated with the Browns only. Maybe some of his personal issues have scared teams off. Doesn't mean he has a lack of football knowledge. Although, it also could mean other teams thinks he has a lack of football knowledge.

@nickers said:

Here's the quote, "I'm great at making money," he told the Miami Herald in July, 2009. "And as we've found out, I'm great at spending it. What I'm not great at is managing it."

@baconhound said:

If Bernie Kosar had any football credibility he'd be coaching somewhere cause God knows he could use the money. If you have a good QB and no skill players around him the team won't succeed and if you have good skill players and no QB to utilize them the team won't succeed. That theory isn't new. The problem is and always will be drafting a franchise QB is a VERY difficult thing. If it were easy 5+ teams wouldn't be doing it every year.

Bernie has said himself.. "he has no problem generating(making money).. So.. I don't think he really needs it"