@the-cysko-kid said:

I'm more worried by the rape allegations than the crab legs but why bother with famous jameis when you can gun for cardale jones? Who really and I mean really believes in winston?

After reading all accounts, I'm less worried about the rape allegations.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Oh, that's what he thinks? You were able to deduce that from that one instance? He steals food from every store he goes into?

I stole a Pokemon card when I was 8. I punched my quarterback in the face in high school. I fell asleep taking a test my freshman year of college.

I'm clearly a lazy, theiving, fighting piece of shit. Good thing we can tell who people become based on the mistakes they make when they're young.

I'm more worried by the rape allegations than the crab legs but why bother with famous jameis when you can gun for cardale jones? Who really and I mean really believes in winston?

@clevfan4life said:

So the fact he thinks grocery stores can just bill the Fl.St athletic dept throws up no flags for you?

Oh, that's what he thinks? You were able to deduce that from that one instance? He steals food from every store he goes into?

I stole a Pokemon card when I was 8. I punched my quarterback in the face in high school. I fell asleep taking a test my freshman year of college.

I'm clearly a lazy, theiving, fighting piece of shit. Good thing we can tell who people become based on the mistakes they make when they're young.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

So the fact he thinks grocery stores can just bill the Fl.St athletic dept throws up no flags for you?

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Hilarious.

It clearly means he's a spoiled piece of shit with no regards for other people. Clearly.

Yes.

Unless, of course, he winds up in Cleveland.

WSS

@clevfan4life said:

I don't think that episode had anything to do with "impressing" his friends. It's his ego, and it thought it ran the whole school. Huge red flag. What someone else said....it's a person who thinks they're relatively immune to consequences. Haven't we seen enough of that kind of mind set? You are a Browns i'm assuming right?

Hilarious.

It clearly means he's a spoiled piece of shit with no regards for other people. Clearly.

@mudfly said:

I would any Browns fan at this point would not be. I get it, if the QB position is a hot mess it's hard to win. But other teams have proven that a solid team can make up in part for bad qb play. If we more or less had all the pieces in place, fine...give up some picks. Like the Cavs did this year when they sold off a bunch of picks to bring in Moz and Smith/Shumpert....why not they already have pieces for years to come. Browns aren't in that position.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I don't think that episode had anything to do with "impressing" his friends. It's his ego, and it thought it ran the whole school. Huge red flag. What someone else said....it's a person who thinks they're relatively immune to consequences. Haven't we seen enough of that kind of mind set? You are a Browns i'm assuming right?

@clevfan4life said:

Im not on board.....at all..................zee roe!

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Same for me.

I'd rather take the guy who has had to win games on his own rather than the guy who has always had the competitive advantage.

Like..........

.....

Johnny.

WSS

@miktoxic said:

i'd compare mariota to more a kaepernik without the moxy.

And without the strong arm. He's a weaker armed version of kaepernik.

Oh, you're back? Did you see literally hundreds of people trolling news anchors on location by screaming "fuck her right in the pussy" on LIVE broadcast?

Winston didn't say anything to thousands of viewers on live television.

He got "caught" because he's famous, famous for being a good QB....

If you found out your cable guy screamed "fuck her right in the pussy" would you switch to dish?

@oldbrownsfan said:

Same for me.

I'd rather take the guy who has had to win games on his own rather than the guy who has always had the competitive advantage.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I like both quarterbacks. If I had to choose between the two I would take Winston. I like the work ethic and having a "boring" quarterback like Mariota who doesn't give any ammunition to TMZ. My concern is the hurry up type offense Mariota played with Oregon. Someone posted about the "it" factor of quarterbacks, the intangibles. I see that a lot with Winston with the number of games he led Florida State to come from behind victories this past season. The ability to lead a team to come from behind victories is a huge "it" factor with me. To work under pressure and come through.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Yeah, the Bucs have had some talent. I didn't realize he was the GM that put most of that together.

@oldbrownsfan said:

"It's a small piece of the evaluation," Senior Bowl executive director and former Cleveland Browns general manager Phil Savage told USA TODAY Sports in a text. "They (Winston and Fisher) go at it like that every day in practice and games.

Probably not a big deal. Just something hard not to see when the national cameras are spotlighting you.

To a certain extent, I kind of like it. It's better than always saying "yes, coach". Friction creates fire. I think its about time we had a little fire from a QB.

Probably not a big deal. Just something hard not to see when the national cameras are spotlighting you.

@oldbrownsfan said:

I thought another red flag with Winston was in the Oregon game when it looked like he was arguing with his coach and the coach telling him to calm down or he would sit him on the bench (or words to that effect).

Maybe it is no big deal but for me just adding to his other issues.

See, I thought that was referencing his erratic play that game.

Maybe it is no big deal but for me just adding to his other issues.

@westside-steve said:

Exactly what I was thinking about. So you think after the alleged rape the comments in the cafeteria were okay? Or not related? Or what?

WSS

It was a popular internet meme at the time. Not related at all.

@tour2ma said:

I don't see the alleged rape and the yelling incident being related.

But agree on the crab legs... something akin to the "grocery shopping" scene in Animal House.

WSS