cbbacker said:

Yep...we're done here....there's nothing left. Walter is just being a whiny bitch and doesn't realize that he's wrong since he just keeps repeating the same thing over and over again and fails to see that he's not right.

@tour2ma said:

I report facts, news, and logic.

Tim Couch Pulls Out is too busy at Wal Mart scratching his ass and picking his nose to know what's going on.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I'd love to know what world you live in.

As a full page of topics will attest... Twitter-world...

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

@walterwhite said:

I'd love to know what world you live in.

Legitimately, if you're just going to sit there not doing anything @Browns, at least pay my man @Gipson_duos24.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Still recovering after you got layed the fuck out with facts? I busted your lip and gave you a black eye of facts.

Ouch. Gotta burn fuck boy

@walterwhite said:

You are literally the dumbest fucking person that has existed. I bet your dads are so proud.

@walterwhite said:

This is the same post you made on page 2. So i guess you really are just trolling.

@walterwhite said:

Are people really this stupid? I mean we are not going to lose him. Macks deal included option years because that is what the Jaguars (I believe) offered him to make it a tough pill for the Browns. Gipson doesn't have ANY option years as of yet. Let him go out and see what he is worth. What people think he is worth, and what other teams value him at could be very different.

@walterwhite said:

Great logic here guys.

"It's not a big deal if we lose one of our top 5 best players as long as we get a 2nd round pick that we'll most likely blow"

You truely are dumber than a box of rocks. Have you taken your medication today?

What part of what the Brown's did is illogical? They essentially did what they did with Mack without the transition tag and WITH compensation should they decide not to match an offer, something that they would not have received with Mack. And if I remember correctly your stupid, narrow minded, oblivious ass LOVED what they did with Mack last year.

You need help dude. Either that or you are a Zombo/Gipper troll bot!

@walterwhite said:

Great logic here guys.

"It's not a big deal if we lose one of our top 5 best players as long as we get a 2nd round pick that we'll most likely blow"

@mudfly said:

Walter actually taking time to check or know facts?

HA!...Thats a good one.....

It was part of the "conversation" earlier...

To paraphrase Carlin: "My shit is fact and your facts are shit."

@andeftw said:

On top of that, what are the chances that a team is willing to part ways with a 2nd round pick for a one year rental of a player? That's the only way he'd be a free agent again in 2016...

... or if he gets no offers and does not sign an extension with us. Then we'd get him at the tender for one-year.

Unlikely, but possible...

Relax, it's not like they cut him.

@tour2ma said:

On top of that, what are the chances that a team is willing to part ways with a 2nd round pick for a one year rental of a player? That's the only way he'd be a free agent again in 2016...

@the-gipper said:

Mack was an unrestricted free agent and had more leverage since the transition tag was around 9 million (if I'm not mistaken). The bottom line is that with Mack they couldn't come to an agreement by the tag deadline and so the Browns opted to let the market determine his value with the option to match any offer.

With Gipson they hold much more leverage since he is a restricted free agent and they could still franchise him next year for a fairly low cost.

The general thinking is the same though.

@walterwhite said:

Say the Eagles for example part with a 2nd and we match it, and he has another great year.

What in the fuck makes you think he's going to want to stick around in 2016 after being low balled by us?

1. Since Gip is now on the open market, then by definition if we retain him, we did not "low-ball" him.

2. As far as I know, tendering now does not preclude tagging in the future... and that can be done at least two years running. So I assume top-five pay followed by top pay ought to piss him off even more?

@tour2ma said:

Walter actually taking time to check or know facts?

HA!...Thats a good one.....

@walterwhite said:

1. A bum knee? He suffered a sprain knee at the end of the season, he isn't on multiple ACL tears.

Here was your chance to actually know, and use, facts...

"Gipson, who leads the NFL with six interceptions, suffered a Grade 3 tear of the medial collateral ligament in his right knee, which is a rupture of the ligament, a source told cleveland.com today. He also suffered some "very mild'' damage to his posterior cruciate ligament.

He did not suffer any damage to his anterior cruciate ligament, which was originally feared."

@mudfly said:

He's a rfa, how are we gonna lose him?......we get first rights to match any offer he receives(which Im betting we will do).....

2nd round tender seems pretty fair for an undrafted player with 2 good years in and a untested damaged knee

Agree... the knee is the complicating factor that is not being given enough consideration in this "conversation".

@tiamat63 said:

That tweet makes little sense. Is it 'being discussed' to offer Gipson a long term contract? Or are the two sides in discussion?

Preferably the latter.

Almost certainly the latter...

The missing point until your post is that tendering does not end negotiations. It ensures that they continue. Does anyone crying about how we have wronged Gip know what he's been asking?

As for the second round tender... if there's any question about the knee, then it's appropriate and buys time for further rehab to resolve any questions.

One difference between Gip and McCourty not displayed in the graphic... McCourty understands it's a business.