defends her Constitution.

If it's ever undone, it won't be for too long. It will get righted again.

Replace the oil in your tractor with Frostie root beer, it's still a tractor but it no longer works.

WSS

they would be the traitors.

Send the justices that voted to nullify our Constitution to gitmo.

@calfoxwc said:

We aren't talkin amending though, we're talking tossing it out the window,

Wilson and Obamao style.

That's how you toss it out my friend.

Think about Obama's first term. with just a small change of events he could have added one or two more justices along the lines of Bill Ayers. When that 47% gets up to 55% it will be pretty rough to get people to vote against as much free shit as working people can provide.

WSS

@mld-woody said:

Wasn't my intent- and if you got my drift- though I don't personally approve of it- gay marriage is going to be a fact in this country.

But for those with a religious bent- I'd like to see them take "In God we trust" off the coinage- because I don't know what God some people in this country are worshiping. Maybe Vishnu or Siva.

Since I rarely venture over to this forum- I won't turn it into a long winded debate over the slippery slope to moral bankruptcy this country is headed down.

Regarding an official language- wouldn't be a bad idea. Of course I've been able to brush up on my Spanish with the multi-lingual instructions that are popping up more and more frequently. Hey- mantegase congelado. Cocinar bien.

So yeah Woody- if they wanted to teach the kids some Arabic- maybe they should have taught them how to say "good morning" or how to cook a frozen dinner- something a little less politically charged maybe?

Wilson and Obamao style.

Stuart said:

But you didn't include Cals entire statement...throwing out the Constitution and the Bill of Rights... yes it would still be the United States of America, but in name only.

Not at all. The way the Constitution is set up is that there is a specific series of events necessary to amend it.

We are talking about perfectly legal and constitutional methods.

That path may or may not be difficult but it's by no means impossible.

WSS

Stuart said:

Get started, tough guy.

@westside-steve said:

(and if enough citizens voted to fly the hammer and sickle and 5 Supreme Court justices decided it was cool then yes, it would still be the United States of America)

But you didn't include Cals entire statement...throwing out the Constitution and the Bill of Rights... yes it would still be the United States of America, but in name only.

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And swords. Plastic ones ..at first. That should make the multi-cultural libs happy.

Then they could learn to hack infidel bananas to pieces.

Wait, I don't want to give the resident liberal wackoes around here any ideas. They'd take it as seriously a good idea.

Never mind.

@mld-woody said:

Why does it matter that it was the pledge of allegiance? Do we have an official national language I'm unaware of?

We should even though knowledge of other languages is a good thing.

WSS

Why does it matter that it was the pledge of allegiance? Do we have an official national language I'm unaware of?

@mld-woody said:

Plenty of ways to learn Arabic without using the Pledge of Allegiance as an example. Maybe let the kids learn about those harems too- legalize polygamy, same sex marriages are cool now, so why not take the next step?

@walterwhite said:

Allah Snackbar!

Allah Akbar!!!!

I agree that's a pretty thought provoking subject, one for which I can't come up with a solid answer.

WSS

Should states have the right to succeed at whim, I mean every 4 years not quite half the country does not like the pick as president, should they be allowed to leave the union, like the southern states did?

So have you read Bledsoe's work?

And are you denying that had the New England states wanted to secede after the Hartford Convention that they would have been wrong? And if the states were indestructable, then how did North Carolina become North Carolina and Tennessee?

How did Virginia become several states?

there is a logical failure in that ruling.

say the Pledge of Allegiance IN ARABIC, and naturally, a liberal

changes the subject to what is "traitorous" during the civil war.

if it walks like a liberal, whines like a liberal, changes directions like a liberal...

......it's a __________.

Relevance

Best Answer: Secession was and is unconstitutional. That was decided in "Texas v. White, 74 U.S. (7 Wall.) 700, 19 L. Ed. 227 (1869), by the Supreme Court.

The legal question was if Texas had legally left the union. The ruling was that it had not stating: “[t]he Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union, composed of indestructible States.” The court did allow that divisibility might be possible "through revolution, or through consent of the States."
Aleksandar Pavković and Peter Radan, Creating New States: Theory and Practice of Secession (Farnham: Ashgate Publishing, Ltd., 2007), 222;

@westside-steve said:

I'll respectfully disagree. The south had a right to secede. It wasn't traitorous - I'd say Lincoln betrayed the Constitution with his actions.

After the war, a lot of northerners (especially New Englanders) wanted to try Jefferson Davis for treason - the person who was in charge of his defense - Albert Taylor Bledsoe - wrote a book titled "Is Jefferson Davis A Traitor" - which lays out the premise for the Secession as a matter of legality - Bledsoe's case was pretty good - Jefferson Davis was never fount guilty of treason - Bledsoe's case if one wants to take the time to read it would hold water.

In a bit of Irony, several of the northern states had discussed secession from the US fairly early in the U.S. When the voting on a New England secession was very close, President Thomas Jefferson did not threaten them with war, but initmated "Hey, we'll miss you but if you want to go".

There is really nothing that binds the states together but threat of force - at this time I would say no Constitutional or moral case.

I don't think it means thinking the Constitution is infallible either.

Just respect your country. Respect its officials. And do what you think will better it

America.

I'm seriously patriotic to my country, my flag, our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, our freedom.

It's stupidass to burn the flag because you really disagree with any president. HEll, the president

isn't your country. What he does isn't your country.

Our Constitution is sacred - permanently given to us to prevent tyranny. To me, our flag is sacred.

It stands for freedom, and how hard our previous pioneer generations FOUGHT and DIED, for them,

and all of us following, to have that freedom.

I don't care what the angry hispanics want, or want to destroy about our country. When liberals hate our country,

it's because they are screwed up and hate anything they don't control.

Anybody who works, or wants to work to get rid of our Constitution, Bill of Rights and our freedoms...is a traitor. (obamao qualifies)

WSS

Muhammad married a 12 year old. wtf is wrong with these sick people? They are as bad as Amish except the Amish do not go around killing people unless it is on the tv show Banshee.

http://www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm

6, 9, 12 years old who gives a fart these muslim turds are twisted people.