<![CDATA[LB/DL times]]>Watching NFL Network right now. I'll post the 40 times here as I get them.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/topic/3242/lb-dl-timesRSS for NodeThu, 01 Oct 2026 04:37:42 GMTMon, 23 Feb 2009 16:02:40 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:18:31 GMT]]>Ray Lewis ran a 4.8 40 at the combine. These measurables are nice and all, but what these players do on the football field is the most important thing. The combine always elevates some players and drops others. But if they can't play, I don't care how fast they are. I would compare the combine to ranking high school players...it doesn't really mean that much.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/46066https://brownsboard.com/post/46066Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:18:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:39:07 GMT]]>i like ivy a lot. he's a high-motor, inspiring player who raises the level of competition around him because he plays so hard. he's not going to set the NFL on fire, but he could easily be the guy to take on blocks next to DQ, which is a role he'd probably enjoy and excel in because it uses his explosion in limited space and doesn't ask him to do anything he can't.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/46010https://brownsboard.com/post/46010Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:39:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:39:07 GMT]]>Mortty Ivy had a rather unimpressive combine, running a 4.9 40 and only putting up 18 reps of 225. That'll push him down to late round territory, perhaps even going undrafted.

I think he'd be a good guy to bring in as a UDFA. Though he's athletically limited, he's got the size (6'1", 248 lbs.) and skills to be a solid backup ILB.

(Ivy's #44)

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/45998https://brownsboard.com/post/45998Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:39:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:38:00 GMT]]>According to nfldraftscout, Aaron Curry had a 6.84 3-cone time. That would be good enough to tie Brian Cushing for the best time among linebackers.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/45927https://brownsboard.com/post/45927Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:38:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:45:51 GMT]]>Yup.

And I'd think the Pats would be happy with the #20 for Cassel. Just because you ask for two first-rounders doesn't mean that's all you'll take. You take the best offer provided it returns adequate value to your franchise.

And Pioli was in on every personnel decision. That's why all sorts of teams were trying to acquire his services. Why would they pay all that money for a coach's yes-man? Anyone can be that.

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@heckofajobbrownie said:

And I think the dream scenario for the Lions is to take Curry, then hope Sanchez finds his way to them at the #20, or to trade up above the Jets and secure him. They've got the picks to do it.

Or they can use that #20 on Cassel.

Pretty nice dream. If I'm not mistaken, the Lions also have an additional 3rd from the Roy Williams trade, which they could use to trade up in the 1st or use to grease the wheels on a Cassel trade.

The Lions also have a lot of cap space, which they could use to bring in some OL pieces.

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@heckofajobbrownie said:

And I think the dream scenario for the Lions is to take Curry, then hope Sanchez finds his way to them at the #20, or to trade up above the Jets and secure him. They've got the picks to do it.

Or they can use that #20 on Cassel.

It will take way more then a #20 to get Cassel. NE wants two firsts. This year's and next year's.

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@heckofajobbrownie said:

Hey, Pioli drafted Seymour, Ty Warren, and Vince Wilfork, all in round one. He only drafted one linebacker on day one in his entire stint with the Pats, and that was Mayo last year.

If that gives you hope.

Actually he just did what Belichick said. Belichick had the say over the draft and roster.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/45461https://brownsboard.com/post/45461Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:18:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:11:05 GMT]]>Clay Matthews is really having a great combine, his stock is rising.

I predict him to be a suprise to all in the NFL, he comes with his own pedigree a team wont be inheriting a risk by picking him up at all.

some coaches look at the shuttle as a players in game 40 time. not only at if they have the fast twitch to be able to redirect while in pursuit.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/45458https://brownsboard.com/post/45458Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:11:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:32:37 GMT]]>And I think the dream scenario for the Lions is to take Curry, then hope Sanchez finds his way to them at the #20, or to trade up above the Jets and secure him. They've got the picks to do it.

Or they can use that #20 on Cassel.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/45449https://brownsboard.com/post/45449Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:32:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:25:39 GMT]]>This is adding more to my argument that Curry is going to go #1. He's the safest pick in the draft and the Lions can't miss there - it'd set them back another few years.

Here's another nugget they might be aware of:

Your last 6 Defensive Rookie of the Years and 8 of the last 9 were linebackers.

Sure, they don't typically go number one. But look at some of the past #1s. Wasn't Brian Urlacher a better pick than Courtney Brown? Were Demarcus Ware and Shane Merriman better picks than Alex Smith in 2005?

Who is Stafford? Another David Carr? Maybe. Well then, it'd probably behoove you to take Aaron Curry instead.

In other words, you'd have to REALLY like Stafford if you're the Lions.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/45446https://brownsboard.com/post/45446Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:25:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:05:43 GMT]]>Trying to find out whether he participated in those drills. He's listed as one of the top performers in the 60 yard shuttle, so I'm guessing that he did.

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Aloysius said:

Short Shuttle:

Marcus Freeman - 4.12

Clay Matthews - 4.18

Kaluka Maiava - 4.20

Brian Cushing - 4.22

Dannell Ellerbe - 4.23

James Laurinaitis - 4.24

Moise Fokou - 4.28

Jason Phillips - 4.32

Jasper Brinkley - 4.32

Are Curry's numbers just ridiculous or is he not participating in the LB drills?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/45440https://brownsboard.com/post/45440Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:04:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:50:52 GMT]]>Short Shuttle:

Marcus Freeman - 4.12

Clay Matthews - 4.18

Kaluka Maiava - 4.20

Brian Cushing - 4.22

Dannell Ellerbe - 4.23

James Laurinaitis - 4.24

Moise Fokou - 4.28

Jason Phillips - 4.32

Jasper Brinkley - 4.32

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/45439https://brownsboard.com/post/45439Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:50:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:45:36 GMT]]>Vertical:

Aaron Curry - 37.0"

Zack Follett - 37.0"

Marcus Freeman - 37.0"

Scott McKillop - 35.5"

Clay Matthews - 35.5"

Jasper Brinkley - 35.5"

Dannell Ellerbe - 35.0"

Worrell Williams - 35.0"

Brian Cushing - 35.0"

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/45437https://brownsboard.com/post/45437Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:45:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:45:28 GMT]]>LB 3-cone times:

Brian Cushing - 6.84

Clay Matthews - 6.90

James Laurinaitis - 6.93

Marcus Freeman - 6.98

Kaluka Maiava - 6.98

Scott McKillop - 7.00

Dannell Ellerbe - 7.00

Jasper Brinkley - 7.03

Moise Fokou - 7.09

I wonder how Curry did. The 3-cone is a good measure of hip flexibility/change of direction ability, which is one of Curry's weaknesses.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/45436https://brownsboard.com/post/45436Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:45:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:29:07 GMT]]> with the Browns' luck, both Cushing and Mathews will go in the first round. I hope not.

Use DA for a trade back up into the first ?

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@heckofajobbrownie said:

I called the Laurinitas slide weeks ago. He's not that special. Didn't show up in Mobile. And now he's disappointed in Indy.

Good call.

You know who made a bad call? Brandon Spikes. With Laurinaitis timing poorly and Maualuga a total mess, Spikes could have worked his way into being a top 15 pick. Unless he's the #1 ILB next year, he lost out on a lot of money.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/45429https://brownsboard.com/post/45429Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:18:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:02:03 GMT]]>McRath's a 4-3 weakside linebacker. He played inside in college, but he's not big enough to play it in the pro's.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/45420https://brownsboard.com/post/45420Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:02:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:00:11 GMT]]>Aloy, McRath looks good in his lb drills IMO..Which position does he play again???

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/45419https://brownsboard.com/post/45419Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:00:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:49:22 GMT]]>Connor Barwin's 3-cone (6.87) and short shuttle (4.18) times are just as impressive as his 40 (4.66). He projects very well to 3-4 OLB.

Larry English's measurables weren't as impressive: 7.26 3-cone, 4.38 shuttle. Should be interesting to hear how he did in LB drills; he struggled dropping into coverage during the Senior Bowl practices.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/45414https://brownsboard.com/post/45414Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:49:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:20:05 GMT]]>The problem with us pursuing Matthews is that his only fit in a 3-4 would be at WOLB, which is Wimbley's spot. It's possible that we could move Wimbley to the strongside - I think Jason suggested that in another thread - but that'd leave us with two OLB's significantly smaller than Mangini likes them (6'2-4", 265-270 lbs.).

As for Brinkley, teams have to be wondering why the hell he played at a sluggish 272 lbs. Did he just chunk up while recovering from the knee injury (he was in a wheelchair for 8 weeks), or will weight gain be a recurring issue with him? Seems to be a significant red flag.

And re: Raji - it's hard to tell because his supposed character issues haven't been made public. But if drugs were indeed part of the reason he didn't play in '07, there's no way Pioli takes him at #3, especially when Curry seems like such a safe bet.

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@ytownbrownsbacker said:

I agree, he has good football instincts. He will run faster on his pro day at OSU. It is a real fast tract at OSU. He ran 4.6s and 4.7s in spring practice, but Freeman was faster then him there. Got to look at how they play in pads and there game speed. I think combine stats are a bit overrated. some guys look great in shorts but slow down or lose their burst in pads on a grass field.

As long as the game film proves they're good players, I dont put a ton of stock in the combine.

Order of importance to me is:

1. Game film (are they productive, consistent)

2. Interview

3. Medical history

4. Measurables

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/45392https://brownsboard.com/post/45392Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:07:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to LB/DL times on Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:06:07 GMT]]>I called the Laurinitas slide weeks ago. He's not that special. Didn't show up in Mobile. And now he's disappointed in Indy.

I'd be willing to throw down some serious money that he's not going to be in round one. He's in the 40-60 range, I'd guess.

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