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Play The Draft<img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/00ae.png?v=49bfe9ee7e6" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--registered" title="®" alt="®" /> Market Analysis Thursday, March 26, 2015:</p>

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*Note: The acronym FRX refers to Play The Drafts proprietary ranking system which takes draft order predictions and private scouting input to develop a moving average on prospect sentiment every day. This FRX Index drives the prospects draft stock value within the Play The Draft<img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/00ae.png?v=49bfe9ee7e6" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--registered" title="®" alt="®" /> contest.</p>

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In honor of the kickoff of the first Play The Draft<img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/00ae.png?v=49bfe9ee7e6" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--registered" title="®" alt="®" /> with the <strong>Cleveland Browns</strong> contest, lets take a look at the scenarios I think will play out with the Browns two 1st-round picks (#12 and #19) this year, as well as examine the PTD-potential from it, because the two players I have in mind for them could yield around $2M total in PTD-portfolio gains on draft day from where their current FRX is at nowif Im right.</p>

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First, lets set the scene on the Browns mindset for these two 1st-round picksfrom my perspective.</p>

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Does everyone remember that the Browns were sitting in first place mid-season in 2014? They got out to a 6-3 start, leading the division on and off along the way, and eventually hit a 7-4 record. Just three wins in their final five games would have put them into playoff and division title position. However, the Browns lost their final five games in-a-row, and gone with it was any hope at the playoffsor even a winning record. It was the most wins (7) the team has had in a season in the past seven years, but because of the way it endedany positive vibe coming into 2015 has taken a hit. All that said, lets not lose sight that this is a team with a decent foundation, and a great head coach.</p>

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<u>For my money, Mike Pettine is one of the 5-10 best coaches in the NFL</u>. He is one of the top defensive minds in the NFL, and one of the more refreshingly honest coaches Ive come across in years. Their defense is going to be fine regardless as long as Pettine is there. They dont need to reach for a defensive player in the first round of the draft.</p>

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There were times last year where the Browns, at full strength, were flashing as one of the best defenses in the NFL. They fell victim to untimely injuries and poor QB play late more than anything. What the Browns-D did to Andrew Luck in Week-14 was jaw-dropping (for most of that contest). The Browns run defense was rated one of the worst in 2014, but that overlooks their brilliance in stopping opposing passing games. Ultimately, the Browns defense was 9th best in the NFL in points allowed last season. The defense is the Browns strength right now.</p>

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You cannot feel that their O-Line is a major crisis to be dealt with in the draft, as the Browns used a revolving door of RBs to success all throughout the season. This was a team that ultimately dumped Ben Tate mid-season, and started rookie RBs from Towson (Terrance West) and Alabama State (Isaiah Crowell)and both youngsters did acceptable-to-good jobs given the circumstances.</p>

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Of all the draft needs the Browns have, I (and most everyone) suspects it comes down to what they lost with Johnny Manziel flopping and Josh Gordon getting suspended. They are lacking real playmakers at QB and WR. The Browns offense scored the sixth lowest points per game in the NFL last season. Dwayne Bowe and Brian Hartline are nice-ish additions, but are not game changers at WR. Sitting at the #12 spot means the Browns may have a choice of several stellar WR prospects from this draft, but one I have in mind just became in play for them as of yesterday.</p>

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With this set up in mind, lets now look at specific players for each of the Browns two 1st-round picks</p>

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<u>What the Browns will do at pick #12</u>:</p>

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There is talk of Phil Taylor playing nose tackle in 2015, and Mike Pettine is a make due kind of defensive coachoften unearthing defensive talent under rocks that others missed. So you wouldnt think nose tackle is a must need with a high pick like #12, but I think they would at least pause to think about taking Washington DT prospect Danny Shelton (10.0 FRX, $2.4M PTD-value, 11.1% PTD-owned) if he fell to them. Shelton is a very athletic, active behemoth to anchor the middle of a 3-4 D-Line. However, I dont think Shelton will still be available by pick #12.</p>

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To me, this pick is going to be a WR. I might not have thought that 24 hours ago, but there was a game-changing event yesterday. Central Florida WR Breshad Perriman (42.0 FRX, $955K PTD-value, 20.5% PTD-owned) ran 40-times at his Pro Day in the 4.2s with some claiming 4.1s on one of his attempts. Mel Kiper has been projecting Perriman as a top-20 pick for weeks, before this Pro Day lightning bolt. Perriman is going to be a top-20 guy for most mock drafters ahead; you would think.</p>

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The Browns could have some interesting choices at WR come the #12 pick. Amari Cooper might fall in their lap, which would be sensational for them, but is unlikely to happen. DeVante Parker should be available as an option, and now Perriman becomes a legit discussion point within the top-15. I dont think the Browns will select Dorial Green-Beckhamafter the off-field debacles with last years #1 picks: Johnny Manziel and Justin Gilbert, much less all that has taken place with Josh Gordon. It may come down to Parker or Perriman at #12.</p>

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If mock drafters universally begin pushing Perriman into the top-15, then there is approx. $800-900K to be made in your Play The Draft<img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/00ae.png?v=49bfe9ee7e6" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--registered" title="®" alt="®" /> portfolio over the next few weeks with him. If Perriman is the actual #12 pick on draft day, its a cool $1M+ in PTD-gains from where Perriman is PTD-valued today.</p>

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Regardless of whether you buy Perriman to the Browns or not, he is now the must own stock in Play The Draft<img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/00ae.png?v=49bfe9ee7e6" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--registered" title="®" alt="®" /> after his headline grabbing Pro Day 40-times.</p>

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<u>What the Browns will do at pick #19</u>:</p>

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I may be one of a handful that believes this, but I think the Browns will draft UCLA QB Brett Hundley (49.8 FRX, $833K PTD-value, 12.5% PTD-owned) at #19.</p>

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My logic is as follows: There are only three QBs worth discussing in the 1st-round of the draftWinston-Mariota-Hundley. By the time the Browns pick #12, only Hundley will remain available.</p>

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Marcus Mariota comes with a lot of questions/is not the right offensive fit for the Browns. So I suspect they would not trade up for him if he falls a little. Hundley should be there come pick #19, and while most see him as a 2nd-rounder, I would say the QB position is too critical to get cute on valuation. The QB with the best chance to be a franchise guy at pick #19 is Brett Hundleyand you have to pay up for it if you think there is a strong-to-decent chance he could be a fixture.</p>

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All Hundley has done over his three seasons starting is rack up 75 passing TDs with just 25 INTs. To put his college passing performance in some context: Hundley threw 14 picks in his last two college seasons (26 games). Jameis Winston coughed up 18 INTs just last season.</p>

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Winston accounted for 2.66 TDs per game (pass and rush) in his college career. Hundley has produced 2.65 TDs per game in his college career (2.68 per game if you count his one receiving TD).</p>

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Winston completed a stellar 66.0% of his passes in his college career. Hundley produced 67.6% accuracy.</p>

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Hundley is A+ in character off the field. He has high-end mobility. He has an NFL+ arm. He played in an offense last year that had him throwing downfield like in a pro style offense. He is not a gimmick passing game QB. He worked the ball downfield on his throwswhile maintaining a great TD-INT ratio.</p>

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I like Hundley as an NFL prospect better than Winston, but I realize no one else does. My Hundley-love is not the main reason that I push him here. I think NFL QB economics will be the catalyst. QB is the most critical position in the NFL times ten. After Hundley is gone, its a big drop-off to the Bryce Pettys of the world. If you want a shot at a franchise QBHundley is your chance at #19.</p>

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Josh McCown is not the planjust ask the Bucs about that, who are picking #1 overall in large part due to McCown. Johnny Manziel cannot be trusted to head up a franchise. In a world of McCowns, Cassels, Fitzpatricks as NFL options and a 2015 NFL Draft lacking in QB prospect depththe Browns may have to pinch their nose and pay up for Hundley. Disregard all this if they trade for Mike Glennonthus securing all the QBs from the 2-14 Bucs of 2014.</p>

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If Brett Hundley goes #19 to Cleveland on draft day, it would mean an $800K+ PTD-portfolio gain from where Hundley trades at today.</p>

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Good Luck with your Play The Draft<img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/00ae.png?v=49bfe9ee7e6" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--registered" title="®" alt="®" /> trades today!</p>

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-- R.C. Fischer is an NFL Draft analyst for College Football Metrics.com, and a football projections analyst and writer for Fantasy Football Metrics.com. He is also a lead writer for PlayTheDraft.com. His group also provides player projections for Advanced Sports Logics football software The Machine.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/topic/32463/really-different-take-on-our-first-round...</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 01:01:26 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://brownsboard.com/topic/32463.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 16:01:04 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Sun, 29 Mar 2015 04:24:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/calfoxwc" aria-label="Profile: calfoxwc">@<bdi>calfoxwc</bdi></a> <a href="/post/488244">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>I never noticed Perriman until Flugels mentioned him highly. So, I started reading up on him,</p>
<p>and now he's skyrocketed up the charts. Nice job, Mr. Flugels !</p>

<p>Haven't been a keen fan of Hundley. Something about all the writings about the questions of him</p>
<p>reading defenses in the pros....but, what if he IS the guy?</p>

<p>makes sense.</p>

<p>I just don't know about a Taylor-Kitchen rotation. One gets banged up playing the rough position at NT,</p>
<p>and....</p>

<p>suppose Goldman falls to them in the second round? nah. Very interesting article !</p>
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<p>Thanks Cal!  Woody added some highlights you might want to see in the thread I started about Perriman a couple days ago.  </p>

<p>That was a good point about the Taylor-Kitchen rotation.  If it boiled down to what guy I could trust more when the game is on the line - it would have to be Kitchen.  I like the effort he gives us for that blue collar position.  As much as I LOVE Danny Shelton for our #12 overall pick - man does it suck we'll need to spend 2 different 1st round draft picks on DTs before we find 1 guy up to the task of playing NT at a high level here.  When Taylor WANTS to play and is lined up inside - he can perform like a keeper. I just haven't seen enough evidence of WANTS from him even when he is healthy.  When a guy shows up out of shape - it says a lot about what he's willing to commit.  When it's a first round draft investment we're really counting on - that sucks.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488973</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488973</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Flugel]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2015 04:24:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Sun, 29 Mar 2015 03:14:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tim-couch-pulls-out" aria-label="Profile: tim-couch-pulls-out">@<bdi>tim-couch-pulls-out</bdi></a> <a href="/post/488424">said</a>:</p><div>


<p>Joe Thomas has done a lot for us, hasn't he? </p>
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<p>It sure would be nice to get a respectable passing game here while we have a Left Tackle frequenting 8 consecutive Pro Bowls in a passing era.  If there aren't any QBs capable of helping us with that in this draft - we have 3 choices:</p>
<p>1) Square peg another round hole with a wrong QB prospect - or -</p>
<p>2) Draft a WR that has a resume full of TDs instead of pretending we can bring in the Taylor Gabriels that will hard work their way to "almost" scoring a TD as some celebrate a draft without a WR -or -</p>
<p>3) Wonder why the teams in our division making the playoffs have guys like AJ Green, Antonio Brown, or Torrey Smith catching TD passes to compliment very good running games.</p>

<p>If Rip Van Winkle started his nap in 1999 and he woke up in 2015 - would he see any progress in our passing game?  As bilingually as I can say this - How? Yeah, we have better blockers and a better running game; but coincidentally enough - the ONLY time we won 10 games in 1 season - we counted on 3 former first round draft picks (Edwards, Jurevicius and Winslow) to help a career backup QB perform like a Pro Bowl alternate with 29 TD passes.  The running game was also a huge help that made that one of the only years we've enjoyed a balanced attack here since we got our team back. That at least gave us evidence we can make this a much easier team to QB.  I mean starting 2007 choosing between the least of all evils at QB isn't much different than today. The difference was we weren't playing gridiron chess with pawns on the perimeter.  The additions of Hartline and Bowe are nice; but their better stats came when they had speed on the other side of the formation. Changing the color of the uniform won't change that reality. The GREAT news here is we're going to have someone on our doorstep that can offer us the speed we need to attack teams vertically with as well as the size you can't easily press to ultimately open up underneath for guys like Bowe, Hartline, Hawkins, and others.  Divine intervention can't help us if we keep saying no thanks to it.</p>

<p>When McCown had Chicago's running game (via Forte) and huge red zone targets like Marshall, Jeffery and Bennett - he outplayed Cutler as easily as breathing.  The Tampa situation was nothing like that unless one wants to prove their struggling running game reminded them a lot of Matt Forte; and good luck with that. In terms of running the ball, we're more like the Chicago team McCown played on than the Tampa team except we have a much better offensive line. Understanding this team won 7 games while losing 3 as time expired as well as some second half leads to playoff caliber teams - there's no reason 9 or 10 draft picks shouldn't improve us by 2-3 wins. It's more doable than people think if our front office makes the right moves...</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488962</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488962</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Flugel]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2015 03:14:04 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:38:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tim-couch-pulls-out" aria-label="Profile: tim-couch-pulls-out">@<bdi>tim-couch-pulls-out</bdi></a> <a href="/post/488680">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>I wouldnt say Hundley isn't better than Winston at this point in time, but I think Hundley's ceiling is equally as high, if not higher, than Winston's.</p>

<p>Hundley is everything you want in a franchise quarterback in terms of mental makeup and athletic ability.</p>
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<p>Not to mention none of the off the field red flags that comes with Winston.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488688</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488688</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark O]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:38:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:11:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/wargograw" aria-label="Profile: wargograw">@<bdi>wargograw</bdi></a> <a href="/post/488515">said</a>:</p>
<p>I'm fine with one of the top 3 receivers (NOT Perriman) in the first round for us. </p>

<p>The notion that Hundley is better than Winston is laughable.</p>
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<p>I wouldnt say Hundley isn't better than Winston at this point in time, but I think Hundley's ceiling is equally as high, if not higher, than Winston's.</p>

<p>Hundley is everything you want in a franchise quarterback in terms of mental makeup and athletic ability. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488680</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488680</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Couch Pulls Out]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:11:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:04:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/westside-steve" aria-label="Profile: westside-steve">@<bdi>westside-steve</bdi></a> <a href="/post/488420">said</a>:</p><p>So, Tour2ma, would that draft bring joy to your heart?</p></blockquote>
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Probably not... As with any of the mocks/ sims posted, it's the players available, but not taken that determine my heart's joy level. </p>


<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/secondwave" aria-label="Profile: secondwave">@<bdi>secondwave</bdi></a> <a href="/post/488446">said</a>:</p><p>For those closely following this year's draft, who's higher up on most draft boards, Kevin White or Amari Cooper? I honestly feel one of those two will fall to us in the draft, in which case, I'd draft a WR.</p></blockquote>
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White and Cooper are very, very close in the aggregate mocks flying around. Right now White is slightly higher with a 6.3 ranking while Cooper's is 6.9.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488637</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488637</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:04:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Fri, 27 Mar 2015 11:01:00 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>My dream scenario is </p>

<p>12. NT Danny Shelton</p>
<p>19. TE Maxx Williams</p>
<p>43. ILB Denzel Perryman</p>
<p>77. OLB Nate Orchard</p>
<p>111. WR Tre McBride </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488575</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488575</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[WalterWhite]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2015 11:01:00 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Fri, 27 Mar 2015 10:38:43 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Farmer has stated multiple times how he's going to draft.</p>

<p>This guy ignores Farmer's comments.</p>

<p>So, I ignore him.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488571</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488571</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Unsympathetic]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2015 10:38:43 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Fri, 27 Mar 2015 10:04:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>2 issues:: 1. We know Farmer's thoughts on drafting a WR that high when theirs good WR Talent though out the Draft.. 2. We have added 3-4 picks to next years draft and Farmer and Haslem both want Cardell Jones to stay home.. IMO If that's their plan at QB why draft any this year. I still see NT,OLB,OL,TE or FB/HB than WR.. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488569</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488569</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[gumby73]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2015 10:04:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Fri, 27 Mar 2015 01:03:29 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I'm fine with one of the top 3 receivers (NOT Perriman) in the first round for us. </p>

<p>The notion that Hundley is better than Winston is laughable. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488515</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488515</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[wargograw]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2015 01:03:29 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 22:58:12 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I think it's more probable Cooper is there at 12 than Shelton.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488467</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488467</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[secondwave]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 22:58:12 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:59:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/miktoxic" aria-label="Profile: miktoxic">@<bdi>miktoxic</bdi></a> <a href="/post/488457">said</a>:</p><div>
<p><strong>no one's saying to NOT draft a wr or qb it's about value and depth of the draft. clearly the value on defense is the DL and DE/OLB positions and the best are clumped together in the first round. pass on a 5 star blue-chip DL for a WR? i don't see farmer (with pettine in his ear) passing on a piece that just might finish off the defense for years to come. (schwartz wasn't farmer's pick).</strong></p>

<p><strong>oh and we just signed bowe so there's that........lol.</strong></p>
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<p>I was on about the Giants lol !</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488459</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488459</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LondonBrown]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:59:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:56:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/londonbrown" aria-label="Profile: londonbrown">@<bdi>londonbrown</bdi></a> <a href="/post/488454">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>That's probably more likely but Cooper tough to pass on for that 1-2. Spent a few high picks on OL last few years and paid Schwartz.</p>
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<p><strong>no one's saying to NOT draft a wr or qb it's about value and depth of the draft. clearly the value on defense is the DL and DE/OLB positions and the best are clumped together in the first round. pass on a 5 star blue-chip DL for a WR? i don't see farmer (with pettine in his ear) passing on a piece that just might finish off the defense for years to come. (schwartz wasn't farmer's pick).</strong></p>

<p><strong>oh and we just signed bowe so there's that........lol.</strong></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488457</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488457</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[miktoxic]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:56:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:55:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I've seen all of Hundley's games, every one. I like the kid, but if we take him before round 3, I'll be pissed beyond belief. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488455</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488455</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[D Bone]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:55:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:50:11 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/miktoxic" aria-label="Profile: miktoxic">@<bdi>miktoxic</bdi></a> <a href="/post/488452">said</a>:</p><div>

<p><strong>giants need to rebuild their OL and DL/LB. no way they draft a WR. no way.</strong></p>
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<p>That's probably more likely but Cooper tough to pass on for that 1-2. Spent a few high picks on OL last few years and paid Schwartz.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488454</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488454</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LondonBrown]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:50:11 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:39:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/londonbrown" aria-label="Profile: londonbrown">@<bdi>londonbrown</bdi></a> <a href="/post/488450">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>Cooper is the safest receiver in the draft, good route runner and hands. Don't think he gets past Giants, Rams then Vikings though. One of those will take him, probably NYG.</p>

<p>They know Odell next year is going to be gameplanned for so need to give teams other things to worry about to free him up somewhat.</p>
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<p><strong>giants need to rebuild their OL and DL/LB. no way they draft a WR. no way.</strong></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488452</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488452</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[miktoxic]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:39:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:35:33 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Cooper is the safest receiver in the draft, good route runner and hands. Don't think he gets past Giants, Rams then Vikings though. One of those will take him, probably NYG.</p>

<p>They know Odell next year is going to be gameplanned for so need to give teams other things to worry about to free him up somewhat.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488450</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488450</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LondonBrown]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:35:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:27:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/jrb12711" aria-label="Profile: jrb12711">@<bdi>jrb12711</bdi></a> <a href="/post/488392">said</a>:</p><div><p>Please God no to Perriman-nothing but a combine warrior who is rising because he ran really fast. The tape shows a guy who has a hard time catching the ball and doesn't run good routes. This guy is the next Greg Little, Heyward-Bay waiting to happen.</p></div></blockquote>
<p>Quoted for truth. The guy can not catch. We have more than enough speed on this team. We need a reliable Marvin Harrison-type receiver on this team.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488449</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488449</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[secondwave]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:27:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:26:01 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/miktoxic" aria-label="Profile: miktoxic">@<bdi>miktoxic</bdi></a> <a href="/post/488428">said</a>:</p><div>

<p><strong>a lot more than any other player being drafted since then. isn't a LT the cornerstone of an offense?</strong></p>

<p><strong>how's your manziel doing? did watkins put the bills over the top? keep it coming. you want to show stats? then let's do stats!</strong></p>

<p><strong>oh, i know, you're in love with mariota this year. just like you were with bortles last year. ask him if he'd want a thomas and a mack on his line.</strong></p>

<p><strong>yeah i thought so.........</strong></p>
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<p>I don't know who "my Manziel" is. Prior to the moment he was drafted, I was against us taking him. However, once he became a Brown, I began to cheer for him...because I'm not a butthurt whiny bitch like a lot of people around here. I root for Cleveland Browns, I don't hold personal vendettas because I wanted someone else. If you notice, I don't say shit about Bortles anymore...because he's in Jacksonville, not Cleveland.</p>

<p>All your argument is proving is what I've been saying since my first post 5 years ago...no single person can turn a 4-12 team into a 12-4 team. </p>

<p>The "real value" in the draft is eliminating weak links - getting exponentially better at a position group you were previously weak at. We could anchor our line with 5 first round future HOFers and it wouldn't matter if the rest of our team was shit, just as we can throw a world-beating college QB behind a garbage line and they wouldn't acheive shit.</p>

<p>Joe Thomas physically can't do any better than what he's been...and that's gotten us nowhere. Until we raise the talent level at QB, DT, ILB, and TE, we'll be a shit team. Those are more important positions to us at this current moment than "wasting" a first round pick on an offensive lineman. </p>


<p>Joe Thomas is my idol, so I was giving you Ghoolie-level shit. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488447</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488447</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Couch Pulls Out]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:26:01 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:25:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>For those closely following this year's draft, who's higher up on most draft boards, Kevin White or Amari Cooper? I honestly feel one of those two will fall to us in the draft, in which case, I'd draft a WR.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488446</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488446</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[secondwave]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 21:25:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 20:46:14 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tim-couch-pulls-out" aria-label="Profile: tim-couch-pulls-out">@<bdi>tim-couch-pulls-out</bdi></a> <a href="/post/488424">said</a>:</p><div>


<p>Joe Thomas has done a lot for us, hasn't he? </p>
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<p><strong>a lot more than any other player being drafted since then. isn't a LT the cornerstone of an offense?</strong></p>

<p><strong>how's your manziel doing? did watkins put the bills over the top? keep it coming. you want to show stats? then let's do stats!</strong></p>

<p><strong>oh, i know, you're in love with mariota this year. just like you were with bortles last year. ask him if he'd want a thomas and a mack on his line.</strong></p>

<p><strong>yeah i thought so.........</strong></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488428</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488428</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[miktoxic]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 20:46:14 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 20:36:46 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/miktoxic" aria-label="Profile: miktoxic">@<bdi>miktoxic</bdi></a> <a href="/post/488328">said</a>:</p><div><p><strong>i don't know about that. besides the 2 QBs i think most teams have learned that the real value in the draft is getting a 10 year starter on either line. wrs, rbs come and go but a wilfork or a michael dean perry? a joe thomas and a kevin mack? you better jump when those guys are there.</strong></p></div></blockquote>


<p>Joe Thomas has done a lot for us, hasn't he? </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488424</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488424</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Couch Pulls Out]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 20:36:46 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 20:27:08 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>So, Tour2ma,  would that draft bring joy to your heart?</p>

<p>WSS </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488420</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488420</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Westside Steve]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 20:27:08 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 19:38:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Please God no to Perriman-nothing but a combine warrior who is rising because he ran really fast. The tape shows a guy who has a hard time catching the ball and doesn't run good routes. This guy is the next Greg Little, Heyward-Bay waiting to happen.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488392</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488392</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jrb12711]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 19:38:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Really Different Take on Our First Round... on Thu, 26 Mar 2015 18:50:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I like Hundley and would love to see him rocking the brown and orange, but Im still not sure the Browns are willing to spend first round picks on a QB in consecutive years. It is smoke screen season but I believed Pettine when he said they were focusing on building an elite defense.</p>

<p>WR at 12? No thanks.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/488360</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/488360</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RoyceRolls]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 18:50:38 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>