<![CDATA[Wealthy QB's shouldn't be able to take less money to work around the cap.]]>Take Brady and Romo. Their teams now have WAY more money to work with plus a star QB. The media slobbers on them for "sacrificing for the team" and off the field they make more money than God. Horseshit. Base QB pay on QB rating. Rodgers level QB's have to take close to 20 mil. Overpay for Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco, go fuck yourself. But great QB's shouldn't take half their salaries. Play big, pay big and fuck up your cap like the rest of us.

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@comeonman said:

Question for anyone who knows: a little off topic but how do bonuses work against cap if at all. Say Romo gets 5 million signing bonus or other bonus, does this hit a teams cap?

They are prorated over the life of the cap, even though the money is physically handed over in year 1. If you know that much, you already understand about 50% of cap minutia.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/490879https://brownsboard.com/post/490879Tue, 07 Apr 2015 04:27:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wealthy QB's shouldn't be able to take less money to work around the cap. on Mon, 06 Apr 2015 23:42:59 GMT]]>I agree the rules are a bit outta whack. The salary cap is put in place to allow for competitive balance but the restructuring is a way to skirt those rules. My issue isn't the player getting paid, it's the corporate accounting that allows teams to take the hit when they aren't as competitive.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/490858https://brownsboard.com/post/490858Mon, 06 Apr 2015 23:42:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wealthy QB's shouldn't be able to take less money to work around the cap. on Mon, 06 Apr 2015 23:31:55 GMT]]>Question for anyone who knows: a little off topic but how do bonuses work against cap if at all. Say Romo gets 5 million signing bonus or other bonus, does this hit a teams cap?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/490857https://brownsboard.com/post/490857Mon, 06 Apr 2015 23:31:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wealthy QB's shouldn't be able to take less money to work around the cap. on Mon, 06 Apr 2015 20:51:20 GMT]]>Yeah....Damn these bastards doing something to help their team acquire and pay for more players that can help win games.

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@jrb12711 said:

Just to be on the side of OP (not really, but just for argument's sake) I think the idea in general is that an NFL team has to have foresight to how contracts will play out in the future. If a guy is going to create a $15mil cap hit, then he should no matter what money he is or isn't willing to take. It would create a much different situation of signing high profile FA QB's than just throwing up a huge number knowing 3 years from now they can change it.

It seems to me that the big free agent deals only last 2-3 years. Because they get most of the money up-front in signing bonuses stretched over 3 years and after that the big salary cap hit comes in year 4 or 5 and that's when they get cut.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/490822https://brownsboard.com/post/490822Mon, 06 Apr 2015 20:07:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wealthy QB's shouldn't be able to take less money to work around the cap. on Mon, 06 Apr 2015 20:04:30 GMT]]>Just to be on the side of OP (not really, but just for argument's sake) I think the idea in general is that an NFL team has to have foresight to how contracts will play out in the future. If a guy is going to create a $15mil cap hit, then he should no matter what money he is or isn't willing to take. It would create a much different situation of signing high profile FA QB's than just throwing up a huge number knowing 3 years from now they can change it.

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@opal312 said:

So if a pitcher like Corey Kluber was willing to take less money to remain an Indian the union wouldn't let him?

If he is signing a new deal, or an extension of a current deal, then yes, he can take less.

If he was renegotiaiting an existing deal then the union would say no

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/490820https://brownsboard.com/post/490820Mon, 06 Apr 2015 20:04:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wealthy QB's shouldn't be able to take less money to work around the cap. on Mon, 06 Apr 2015 19:50:24 GMT]]>So if a pitcher like Corey Kluber was willing to take less money to remain an Indian the union wouldn't let him?

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@tiamat63 said:

You should be allowed to take whatever money you feel you're worth. For some players it isn't about the money and the difference between them making 5mil a year or 9 mil a year means nothing.

There's is zero problem with what Manning, Brady, Rodgers or any QB have done to make cap space for their team.

I don't have a problem with it either.

It's your name and your money.

If a team wants to overpay ie. Skrine, go for it.

If a player wants to help the team, then good for him.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/490811https://brownsboard.com/post/490811Mon, 06 Apr 2015 19:10:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wealthy QB's shouldn't be able to take less money to work around the cap. on Mon, 06 Apr 2015 18:27:29 GMT]]>You should be allowed to take whatever money you feel you're worth. For some players it isn't about the money and the difference between them making 5mil a year or 9 mil a year means nothing.

There's is zero problem with what Manning, Brady, Rodgers or any QB have done to make cap space for their team.

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@hoorta said:

No, the Yankee fans paid the money- why I have near zero interest in baseball- talk about overpaid. Want to spend around $500 for a freaking regular season ticket to a BASEBALL game?

Plus- guaranteed contracts are great for the players, lousy for the team and fans. How many lame armed pitchers have we seen that were still collecting millions for years after their arms were totally shot? A-Roid should be making around 1\50 of what he's currently getting paid.

While what you said is basically true, if the union was as strong as baseballs union, the QB's wouldn't be allowed to take less money

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@logicisforsquares said:

Their money/contract. They can negotiate with their team to help them win. Those players should be commended for putting team wins over a few more million dollars.

Right- you reach a point where you have enough $$ to be set for life- to some guys it's an ego thing to say- I make more than he does. Some don't care as much about it.

& to the OP- Tour is right- they're still going to get the same amount of money- it's just further won the road.

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@browns149 said:

Too bad the NFL union isn't stronger.

MLB players union would never let a player yake less money.

They stopped A-Rod from taking less money when he went from the Rangers to the Yankees.

He was traded to Boston first but the union would not allow the Redsox to re-do A-Rod's contract.

So the Yankees stepped in and paid the money.

No, the Yankee fans paid the money- why I have near zero interest in baseball- talk about overpaid. Want to spend around $500 for a freaking regular season ticket to a BASEBALL game?

Plus- guaranteed contracts are great for the players, lousy for the team and fans. How many lame armed pitchers have we seen that were still collecting millions for years after their arms were totally shot? A-Roid should be making around 1\50 of what he's currently getting paid.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/490794https://brownsboard.com/post/490794Mon, 06 Apr 2015 18:03:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wealthy QB's shouldn't be able to take less money to work around the cap. on Mon, 06 Apr 2015 16:47:05 GMT]]>Too bad the NFL union isn't stronger.

MLB players union would never let a player yake less money.

They stopped A-Rod from taking less money when he went from the Rangers to the Yankees.

He was traded to Boston first but the union would not allow the Redsox to re-do A-Rod's contract.

So the Yankees stepped in and paid the money.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/490787https://brownsboard.com/post/490787Mon, 06 Apr 2015 16:47:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wealthy QB's shouldn't be able to take less money to work around the cap. on Mon, 06 Apr 2015 15:37:31 GMT]]>Only P. Manning has actually taken less money. He gave up $4mm.

All the other QBs in the news have restructured their contracts, which just means they have deferred income to the latter years of their contract, often with more total $$$ guaranteed.

The moves solve short-term problems while creating potentially bigger ones long term...

@walterwhite said:

Thanks Mrs. Obama for your idea's on wealth redistribution.

lol... an ideologue with no understanding of his own talking point never fails to amuse.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/490774https://brownsboard.com/post/490774Mon, 06 Apr 2015 15:37:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wealthy QB's shouldn't be able to take less money to work around the cap. on Mon, 06 Apr 2015 14:53:39 GMT]]>If we draft a QB I think Manziel may be gone. Hope not though.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/490758https://brownsboard.com/post/490758Mon, 06 Apr 2015 14:53:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wealthy QB's shouldn't be able to take less money to work around the cap. on Mon, 06 Apr 2015 14:17:43 GMT]]>Lets all hope that Manziel is the next big QB, one who will stick with Cleveland for the long haul, win us multiple championships and make tons of money outside of the gridiron, take a pay cut to continue to put weapons around him, to improve the other side of the ball and make other teams fans mad... That is my hope.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/490751https://brownsboard.com/post/490751Mon, 06 Apr 2015 14:17:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wealthy QB's shouldn't be able to take less money to work around the cap. on Mon, 06 Apr 2015 13:43:15 GMT]]>"I caught zero logic in all that and that last part...pure gibberish to me."

-Marty Harte

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@skippinturtles said:

Take Brady and Romo. Their teams now have WAY more money to work with plus a star QB. The media slobbers on them for "sacrificing for the team" and off the field they make more money than God. Horseshit. Base QB pay on QB rating. Rodgers level QB's have to take close to 20 mil. Overpay for Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco, go fuck yourself. But great QB's shouldn't take half their salaries. Play big, pay big and fuck up your cap like the rest of us.

Their money/contract. They can negotiate with their team to help them win. Those players should be commended for putting team wins over a few more million dollars.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/490725https://brownsboard.com/post/490725Mon, 06 Apr 2015 11:25:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wealthy QB's shouldn't be able to take less money to work around the cap. on Mon, 06 Apr 2015 10:06:34 GMT]]>Thanks Mrs. Obama for your idea's on wealth redistribution.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/490721https://brownsboard.com/post/490721Mon, 06 Apr 2015 10:06:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Wealthy QB's shouldn't be able to take less money to work around the cap. on Mon, 06 Apr 2015 09:58:27 GMT]]>Rules are rules, smart teams use strategy to their advantage. How about some non informed outsider change the mode of operation in your industry ?

If your front office is not savvy enough to fine tune contracts that is unfortunate

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