It helps 2013, if you consider that only Manuel was taken in Rnd 1. Also Glennon, a 3rd round choice, was taken well ahead of Barkley, a 4th.

@the-gipper said:

So, you don't count RGIII?

No... he may yet force me to, but until he does...

@thenew23 said:

Going into their respective drafts, these were considered the top 3 QB prospects for each of the past 7 years. It's easy to say what each has done/not done in the NFL, but purely as a prospect, where does Mariota fit among that list?

See where you're going, but I think it's fine to consider how past prospects have actually done in the NFL.

@tiamat63 said:

I meant QB. And look at that list Tour has, which I have adjusted:

@tour2ma said:

2015: Winston, Mariota, Hundley

2014: Bortles, Manziel, Bridgewater

2013: Manuel, Smith, Barkley

2012: Luck, RGIII, Tannehill

2011: Newton, Locker, Gabbert

2010: Bradford, Tebow, Clausen

2009: Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman

Going into their respective drafts, these were considered the top 3 QB prospects for each of the past 7 years. It's easy to say what each has done/not done in the NFL, but purely as a prospect, where does Mariota fit among that list?

1. Luck - was concensus #1

2. Stafford - was concensus #1

3. Newton - was concensus #1

4. Mariota - on-field questions, but off-field has everything. May have been drafted #1 overall if he came out in 2014. There are still debates over who should be taken #1 this year...

5.Winston - on-field #1, but off-field issues

6. Bradford - became the concensus #1 because of the Rams desperate need for QB, but there were questions about him developing into a pro

7. RGIII - Combine riser who became the obvious #2 pick after Luck

I'm not saying that being a top prospect always leads to a great NFL career, but NOT using hindsight, I have Mariota as the #4 on my list because Id take him over Winston. Wherever you put him on that list, you'd be lying if he wasn't still a top 7 QB prospect out of the past 7 drafts, and that kind of player would be hard to pass up... Maybe my take on him his all wrong, but I think he'll be drafted 2nd, and I think the Titans would be crazy not to take him for themselves...

@darren15 said:

@tour2ma said:

So, you don't count RGIII?

@tour2ma said:

I think he meant top 5-6 prospects regardless of position. In which case makes it an even greater laugh.

@miktoxic said:

why does everyone consider marpet the top OG? if not for a great combine showing you would've never heard of him.

Sr. Bowl gave us a pretty good clue. Combine numbers only reinforced it.

@comeonman said:

I was laughing too. Maybe we will be the ones laughed at when he takes the field?

The sad but funny part is the scarcity of QB talent to emerge in the past 6 - 7 years. Here are the franchise level guys in that time period. It may be too early to evaluate 2014 and a couple others might be debated...

2014: Bortles, Teddy, Carr

2013: nada

2012: Luck, Tannehill, Wilson

2011: Newton, Dalton, Kaep

2010: nada

2009: Stafford

2008: Ryan, Flacco

MM certainly has a shot at placing in the top 5 here. Question is... how good is that chance?

@tiamat63 said:

:lol:

@darren15 said:

QB....Winston

RB....Gurley

WR...White

TE.....Funchess

OT....Collins

OG/C...Irving

DT.....Williams

DE.....DuPree

OLB...Beasley

ILB.....Perriman

SS.....Collins

FS.....Rowe

CB....Jones

@miktoxic said:

Tape. He's a great fit for this scheme. Athletic ability for a big man.

if not for a great combine showing you would've never heard of him.

@thenew23 said:

:lol:

@darren15 said:

If you could pick 1 player at each of the following positions from this years draft for the Browns, which players would you take ....remember just 1

QB None. Cardell Jones in 2016. Backup/Tutor on bench already

RB Gurley. Watched at Tarboro high school. Biggest fan.

WR White is going to make many look silly reading his back

TE Max Williams only NFL Body Ready for hits

O LINE TACKLE Peat will pancake

O LINE GUARD Cam E. Plug in any OL spot.

D LINE M. Brown Durability over Shelton

D END L. Williams Best NFL Career of 2015 Draft

OLB Fowler motor don't quit

ILB Anthony ACC Football hard to watch, not this beast

SAFETY Rowe plays both CB & FS we need both

CB Jones A Huskie should be a Dawg. The U Conn. Kid

Would be interesting to see the different ideas .....

Mine

QB ...Brett Hundley

RB ...Melvin Gordon

WR ... Devante Parker

TE ... Max Williams

OT ... Brandon Scheriff

OG ....Laken Tomlinson

DL ... Leonard Williams

DE .... Alvin Dupree

OLB ....Vic Beasley

ILB .... Stephone Anthony

Safety... Landon Collins

CB .... Trae Waynes

Thoughts ?

@poeticg said:

I like it. Lots of football players here.

@tiamat63 said:

I could post my own list, but I'd basically be cutting and pasting Tour's list. So... there ya go.

I knew you were smart, but I had no idea you were that smart...

RB Gurley

WR Cooper

TE Williams

OT Scherff

OG Erving

DL Shelton

DE Williams

OLB Beasley

ILB Kendricks

CB Waynes

RB-Todd Gurley

WR-Amari Cooper

TE-Maxx Williams

O LINE TACKLE-Brandon Scherff

O LINE GUARD-Cameron Erving

D LINE-Leonard Williams

D END-Dante Fowler Jr

OLB-Vic Beasley

ILB-Denzel Perryman

SAFETY-Landon Collins

CB-Marcus Peters

RB-Gurley

WR-Cooper

TE-Williams

O LINE TACKLE-Collins

O LINE GUARD-Erving

D LINE-Williams

D END-Dupree

OLB-Fowler

ILB-Kendricks

SAFETY-Collins

CB-Waynes

RB - Corey Grant

WR - Dorial Green-Beckham

TE - Maxx Williams

OT - Brandon Scherff

OG - Ali Marpet

DL - Danny Shelton

DE - Leonard Williams

OLB - Vic Beasley

ILB - Denzel Perryman

S - Kurtis Drummond

CB - Byron Jones

@darren15 said:

can't we just sign them all right now? please?