@mohican said:

stop it with your invonvenient truths when there's a boilerplated pre rendered narrative to be belched on to us.

@oldbrownsfan said:

How does being a good person or a successful, innovative surgeon translate into a good president?

The very best entrepreneur/self made business man to ever hold the office of US president is often listed as one of the worst presidents and did not respond well to fiscal crisis.

@westside-steve said:

you would crumble under that weight. Ther'es a reason presidents age 10x faster than any of us, including Dr's.

WSS

@westside-steve said:

you missed my point, they're two completely different skillsets. Very few presidents have or had the chops to be a brain surgeon...but to suggest that because someone is a brain surgeon he has the chops to think on the scale that the POTUS does? That's insanely ridiculous. Dangerously ridiculous. This was the exact argument people made for Trumps candidacy. He's a billionaire so naturally he would make a great presdent....lol. Vince McMahon is a billionaire too.

@clevfan4life said:

I think they made wrong decisions, but I dont' think they're as bad as the left makes them out to be. Reagan I have a problem with though cause he really spun the wheels on govt spending. He started in earnest the deficit spending trend. I'm not a fan of raised taxes but it's also been made abundantly clear on what borrowed time you're leaning on when you spend what you don't have. Reagan bubbled out our economy hard but he's given a pass on it cause that's how we outspend the Soviets or "beat" them if you will.

To go even further I have very little doubt that I could be a functioning President of the United States but there's not a chance in the world I could take over for the head of surgery at any hospital.

WSS

@westside-steve said:

I agree.

Unless you are in the military industrial complex (that Dwight Eisenhower warned us against) you really should chalk up the U.S. middle east adventures as almost draws at best and in the cold light of day are unmitigated disasters.

In the name of fighting Islamic Terror we have added trillions in debt, frittered away remaining rights and spent lives on nothing.

@mld-woody said:

"Wasn't everything better when you were young? Kids these day, am I right? Vote for me!"

No thanks.

I mean, he wouldn't win, but still...

WSS

No thanks.

I mean, he wouldn't win, but still...

@gftchris said:

"In God, Guns, Grits and Gravy, Mike Huckabee asks, "Have I been taken to a different planet than the one on which I grew up?"

...

Government bailouts, politician pig-outs, and popular culture provocations from Jay-Z and Beyoncé to Honey Boo-Boo to the Duck Dynasty's Robertson family. Gun rights, gay marriage, the decline of patriotism, and the mainstream media's contempt for those who cherish a faith-based life."

...

http://www.amazon.com/Guns-Grits-Gravy-Mike-Huckabee/dp/1250060990

Now, I've never read the book or heard of the guy. But I would not be completely shocked if there's a undertone of yearning for yesteryear

And if there was what would be your problem with it?

WSS

@calfoxwc said:

typo + ("g" is next to "h" on the keyboard) <> (poor grammar)

WSS

@mld-woody said:

hlitch? HLITCH!?

YOUR POINT IS NOW INVALID!

Good call

WSS

@westside-steve said:

"In God, Guns, Grits and Gravy, Mike Huckabee asks, "Have I been taken to a different planet than the one on which I grew up?"

...

Government bailouts, politician pig-outs, and popular culture provocations from Jay-Z and Beyoncé to Honey Boo-Boo to the Duck Dynasty's Robertson family. Gun rights, gay marriage, the decline of patriotism, and the mainstream media's contempt for those who cherish a faith-based life."

...

http://www.amazon.com/Guns-Grits-Gravy-Mike-Huckabee/dp/1250060990

Now, I've never read the book or heard of the guy. But I would not be completely shocked if there's a undertone of yearning for yesteryear

YOUR POINT IS NOW INVALID!

@mld-woody said:

I thought voting for the good orator was a poor choice?

>>You did? Well we theater majors understand the difference among thinking on your feet, as I mentioned, ad lib and reading off a teleprompter. Those are all good abilities to have but they are actually different.<<

What was wrong in my assessment? He recently wrote a book called "God, Guns, Grits and Gravy". He waives the "Real America" flag. Fuck that kind of pandering.

WSS

(Ps, I'm not calling you out on grammar but the wave vs waive speech to text glitch was funny )

@westside-steve said:

I just thought Mike Huckabee thought on his feet and spoke well. Never seemed to be on the political fringe to me and was an affable cadidate. I'm assuming Woody knows little or nothing about him but thats to be expected.

Again I fear he's not electable.

As for the religious aspect I guess you need to decide what do your prefer someone who believes in it or lies about it. because of Barack Obama believed the s*** at the Church he attended week after week after week, well you understand. And none of his acolytes care about that.

WSS

I thought voting for the good orator was a poor choice?

What was wrong in my assessment? He recently wrote a book called "God, Guns, Grits and Gravy". He waives the "Real America" flag. Fuck that kind of pandering.

@legacy-fan said:

hey woody-

Here's a prime example of why STEM is lagging behind in our country.

Because people think it is too hard and don't want to put in the work in school. At least, that is one reason. An acceptance within society to be "bad at math" is another.

It will hurt our country over the long run, but I'll benefit. I've already benefited from it, and I imagine I'll have my choice of positions going forward.

carter was a dirtbag who cut our military spending a lot.

And yes, they cut taxes. Then the recession ended. Sounds good to me.

But it did inflate the deficit. Reagan wouldn't raise taxes on Americans individually,

but he did agree to raise the corp tax rates. And he wouldn't cut defense like Carter did,

he had to build it back up.

The recession started an entire year before Reagan became president. But of course, dishonest

liberals called it "Reagan's recession". But after over six years, they still defend Obamao and blame

everything on Bush II. Go figure. It's about political advantage for the left. And Reagan was dealing

with a split congress. Obamao had a few years? of Dem control over both houses, and yet they

did not pass one budget. go figure again.

@westside-steve said:

I think they made wrong decisions, but I dont' think they're as bad as the left makes them out to be. Reagan I have a problem with though cause he really spun the wheels on govt spending. He started in earnest the deficit spending trend. I'm not a fan of raised taxes but it's also been made abundantly clear on what borrowed time you're leaning on when you spend what you don't have. Reagan bubbled out our economy hard but he's given a pass on it cause that's how we outspend the Soviets or "beat" them if you will.

@oldbrownsfan said:

I'm not completely in disagreement. What I know though is that Wall St told the govt to do that because they said if we go down you have no shot at all. Bush would have put us just as far in debt if they told him to. Both parties are beholden

@clevfan4life said:

We have a huge debt problem. 18 plus trillion. Obama called Bush unpatriotic for having a debt of 9 trillion and selling the future of our children out to China. We have up to 100 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities. We have had the worst economic recovery coming out of a recession since WW2. Job growth has never been good in 6 years under this administration. The stock market has been great. How much of that was due to government printing trillions of dollars?

On July 3, 2008 -- the day before Independence Day -- Barack Obama said that adding $4 trillion in debt was irresponsible and "unpatriotic.

Obama: The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents - #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back -- $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That's irresponsible. It's unpatriotic.