I still don't think we can look at anything he did last year of a sign for the future. The team, coaches, and everything in the Browns organization was in complete disarray. This year is different. We can't judge Quinn's check downs or bail outs until we watch him this season.

Also, does he understand the dynamic improvement that that particular ability gives to our offense? That opposing DC's will never actually "figure you out" completely and shut down your entire career in just 1 game?

I mean, I'm just wondering why we're still having these effing conversations on it.

@damajuki said:

But I agree with your greater point.

Totally agree. I think Heiden is more like Carlson or Fasano than Winslow though.

All good.

@inspecta said:

No, I just wanted to point that out.

@oconrecon said:

The only thing Quinn should be anointed with is an opportunity, and this does nothing to change that fact.

Um, not to nitpick or anything, but Quinn threw to Fasano and Carlson, two current NFL starters.

But I agree with your greater point.

@ithika said:

Samarja...The dude from American Idol???

Yeah that combo went down in the NCAA hall of fame....The ol' Quinn to Samarja combo......

How quick I forgot that one...

@ithika said:

No doubt.

Didn't Joe Montana make a career out of solid short and medium range passes? I never remember anyone saying of Montana "too bad he doesn't have a cannon arm to hit the deep routes".

And no, I'm not saying BQ is the next Montana any more than Rick Mirer was. I am saying this short-passes-only thing naysayers keep hanging on Quinn is all hot gas.

To quote the last paragraph of the introduction of Joe Montana's The Art and Magic of Quarterbacking, "There's more to being a quarterbacking than arm strength..." He goes on to say its a pile of other things which make the great QB's great, and its mostly preparation and instincts.

@ballpeen said:

I'm extremely relentless with gImp, sorry to disappoint you 'peen.

mz. said:

Punny

@ballpeen said:

It is a symptom, though. Let's you no what your dealing with...

@gmp said:

Looks like the Annointed One will have to change his game and actually throw the ball down-field....No More Quinn rollout to Winslow for 6 yards (18 times a game) stuff anymore..

I see why they are opting to keep DA around..........

Did you watch Quinn to Samarja @ ND or are you blind?

AdaM said:

I have always thought spelling smack pretty lame to be honest.

@alendor said:

No kidding. If he watched football, aside from ARZ, he's see the playoff teams and winning teams make a living taking taking 7 yards at a time like Quinn did against DEN.

@gmp said:

Well w/ DA at the helm over his last 16 starts, CLE could have used one.

@alendor said:

Or pick 6's to the other team, or getting your receivers killed so they develop gator arms.

@gmp said:

Why do you even like the browns.... GTFO.

Just follow DA, or throw a dart at your monitor while on nfl.com. I recommend that one.

@alendor said:

Better have a Pro-Bowl punter..

@gmp said:

Who are you Denny Green?/ ..we need to subtact the attempts to the no wde-out position attempts??/what???

They are who we thoguht they might be.???

He dropped back 35 times to throw and connected 6 times with the wide-outs...that's all you need to know!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you want to look at it in a vaccume. You have to account for what defense was used on each drop back, who was open, etc. Not to mention who the two CBs are covering your WRs. Again, you take what the D gives you. Which is why you saw a bunch of completions to TEs against DEN, then a bunch of completions to WRs against BUF. No matter what, the BUF game blows your original comment out of the water.