<![CDATA[This team needs ALOT OF WORK]]>DA SUCKS! Our Oline was dominated from the little of the game I saw. Poor Offensive play calling. Our Defense looked horrible from what I saw also. Anyone who even mentions Playoffs this year should be shot. Bench DA, get rid of Fat boy Crennel at the end of the season (since this season is basically over after 8 games). icon_evil.gif

]]>https://brownsboard.com/topic/335/this-team-needs-alot-of-workRSS for NodeThu, 01 Oct 2026 10:26:13 GMTSun, 02 Nov 2008 21:33:30 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to This team needs ALOT OF WORK on Mon, 03 Nov 2008 03:19:12 GMT]]>Our hopes for this season are toast. We need 7-1 or 8-0 to make the playoffs. Ain't gonna happen.

DA has had ample opportunity to show what he's got. These last 8 games are a great opportunity to see what else we've got and that of course includes Quinn. It's time to start eyeing our roster for '09 and you can't do that if you don't see what's sitting on the bench.

We can gain absolutely nothing by continuing to start DA the rest of this season.

Doug

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So suppose they start Brady Quinn. What "if" he does worse than Derrick Anderson? What if he is another Ryan Leaf? I looked at the stats after the browns went up 27-13. They only gained 38 yards. Four three,and outs plus the int. Looked alot like conservative "play not to lose Schottenhiemer style play like in the 1986 AFC Championship game. (Kneel Down after the 98 yd drive,and three,and out punt. Denver goes 60 yds to win..

What if he does? I don't think they're going to pull the plug on him based on his first start and one game when they've pissed around with Anderson for 27 games now.

We're not calling for Quinn because we think he'll save the season. We're calling for him because it's pointless to spend more time 'developing' another teams future backup QB.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/3859https://brownsboard.com/post/3859Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:49:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This team needs ALOT OF WORK on Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:29:36 GMT]]>Lerner has a ton money. Forbes rankes the Browns as one of the top money making teams in the NFL. The team is worth around 200-500 million dollars. Having said that, he has not invested wisely in coaches and players over the years. I don't think he has good football knowledge considering the doofus (RAC, Phil the Pill) he has hired. icon_idea.gif

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I know this team has some other issues (BE is a big one right now), but week in and week out, DA keeps popping up on the radar as making things harder than they should be.

To be honest, BE and DA both are horrid....did anyone catch BE's take of 'That what I do?' after his catch....what a f-cking tool

If Lister Jr acted like that I would kick him straight in the a-s; but he is a winner and would never consider a horrid incorrect take of 'that what I do'

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/3751https://brownsboard.com/post/3751Sun, 02 Nov 2008 23:31:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This team needs ALOT OF WORK on Sun, 02 Nov 2008 23:28:40 GMT]]>I know this team has some other issues (BE is a big one right now), but week in and week out, DA keeps popping up on the radar as making things harder than they should be.

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I'm beginning to think DA isn't RAC's choice. In our final offensive series where DA did his best Favre '06 impersonation, RAC didnt even look at DA as he walked off the field. No words, no "hold your head up, kid" nothing. Part of me thinks that RAC had already ordered appetizers and wasn't really focused, but I would have at least expected a glance in the starting QB's direction.

How about the "BOOOOOOOO's" when DA trotted back on the field for the last series? Ouch.

How about the "Brady! Brady! Brady!" at the end of the 2nd to last series (not the Suggs pick)? Ouch.

Dude it is half off jalapeno poppers night; RAC was focused and in a hurry

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BF17 you can be mad at DA, that is your choice. But the game turned today when the Browns were up 27-13 with the Ravens facing a 3rd and long......of course they converted and went on to score. After that the playcalling got conservative and the defense was just horrible.

Our defense was not horrible at the time we needed them the most. I thought for sure that Baltimore was just going to run out the clock when we punted it back to them with 4 minutes to go but instead the D came up with a great stop.

Ultimately, the play that turned/ended this game was the interception. Up until that point we still had a very good chance to win it.

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I'm pretty sure that Romeo needs to go after this one. You just can't win football games by playing so conservatively. You need to go all out and take risks. While I do feel that there are various players to blame, I strongly believe it all comes back to the coaching which has been nothing but abysmal. The Ravens figured out our offense late in the game and we did nothing to change it. It's games like this that piss me off because we had it in our hands and dropped it, just like Braylon.

Romeo + his staff deserves to leave after this one. Our season is already gone with this game so there's no reason why we shouldn't shake things up and take the rest of the season to gel it together

Don't blame Chud. What would you do if you had that interception machine behind center? I'd be calling running plays too.

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Saying that DA is not the problem is the same thing as saying that you think everything is okay with this team right now. He runs this football team and his influence is supposed to trickle down. If there's no influence, then the whole team is affected. It's time to abandon ship. Swallow your pride and admit that it's BQ time. It's time to shake things up, as this season is all but over.

I never said that DA isn't a problem but only that he is not to blame for this game. DA is not the future of this team.......we all know that. Coaching to me is the biggest concern. We could have the greatest friggin' QB ever known to man and the coaching staff wouldn't know what to do with him.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/3650https://brownsboard.com/post/3650Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:37:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This team needs ALOT OF WORK on Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:30:14 GMT]]>Saying that DA is not the problem is the same thing as saying that you think everything is okay with this team right now. He runs this football team and his influence is supposed to trickle down. If there's no influence, then the whole team is affected. It's time to abandon ship. Swallow your pride and admit that it's BQ time. It's time to shake things up, as this season is all but over.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/3631https://brownsboard.com/post/3631Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:30:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This team needs ALOT OF WORK on Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:24:28 GMT]]>BF17 you can be mad at DA, that is your choice. But the game turned today when the Browns were up 27-13 with the Ravens facing a 3rd and long......of course they converted and went on to score. After that the playcalling got conservative and the defense was just horrible.

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I don't know if Quinn is the answer, but lets find out because Anderson is not the answer.

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What we do know is that DA is not the answer at QB.

Will you guys stop making sense....it's unbecoming.

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No way you can put this one on DA. Stop the hatred and get a grip. The defense blew this one. Playcalling didn't help. For once DA is innocent. The Browns had NO running game today.

Our defense made the crucial stop with 3 minutes left and what does DA do?! He throws a f'in interception!!! Tell me ... who the hell am I supposed to be mad at?!

Typical......defense also gave up a 27-13 lead.....so who should you be mad at?

Don't get me wrong, I am also pissed off that we lost the lead and that Braylon can't catch a pass to save his life but ultimately the defense came through at the most important time and DA had the chance to win the game and, unlike a good NFL QB, he hands the game over to Baltimore. So to answer your question - DA is who I should be most mad at.

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You guys keep thinking that DA is the only problem with this team if it makes you sleep better tonight. But that's not the truth. He didn't lose this game today.

I'm just as frustrated as everyone else but let's be realistic the problems go beyond the QB.

He's not the only problem with this team, but he is the biggest problem with this team. It's simple, with an accurate QB this team has at least 3 more wins. You can't win games in this league with a QB who completes only 50% of his passes. I don't know if Quinn is the answer, but lets find out because Anderson is not the answer.

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So suppose they start Brady Quinn. What "if" he does worse than Derrick Anderson? What if he is another Ryan Leaf?

I hate this.

Why even play the g ames? why show up? WTF are you kidding me?

That is the problem - we don't know about BQ. We've got a pretty good idea, which is why he was drafted, but we don't know. What we do know is that DA is not the answer at QB.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/3588https://brownsboard.com/post/3588Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:11:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This team needs ALOT OF WORK on Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:09:31 GMT]]>So suppose they start Brady Quinn. What "if" he does worse than Derrick Anderson? What if he is another Ryan Leaf? I looked at the stats after the browns went up 27-13. They only gained 38 yards. Four three,and outs plus the int. Looked alot like conservative "play not to lose Schottenhiemer style play like in the 1986 AFC Championship game. (Kneel Down after the 98 yd drive,and three,and out punt. Denver goes 60 yds to win..

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/3586https://brownsboard.com/post/3586Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:09:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This team needs ALOT OF WORK on Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:06:31 GMT]]>You guys keep thinking that DA is the only problem with this team if it makes you sleep better tonight. But that's not the truth. He didn't lose this game today.

I'm just as frustrated as everyone else but let's be realistic the problems go beyond the QB.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/3581https://brownsboard.com/post/3581Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:06:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This team needs ALOT OF WORK on Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:06:21 GMT]]>I'm beginning to think DA isn't RAC's choice. In our final offensive series where DA did his best Favre '06 impersonation, RAC didnt even look at DA as he walked off the field. No words, no "hold your head up, kid" nothing. Part of me thinks that RAC had already ordered appetizers and wasn't really focused, but I would have at least expected a glance in the starting QB's direction.

How about the "BOOOOOOOO's" when DA trotted back on the field for the last series? Ouch.

How about the "Brady! Brady! Brady!" at the end of the 2nd to last series (not the Suggs pick)? Ouch.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/3580https://brownsboard.com/post/3580Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:06:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This team needs ALOT OF WORK on Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:02:18 GMT]]>Look on the bright side...

The sooner this season is over (which it pretty much is), the sooner the Brady Quinn era begins. Get him as much playing time as possible so he's ready for next year. Give DA the start next week, and when he chokes we finally move forward. I want to like this guy, I really do, but he's just not the one. He doesn't have it.

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NO not DA's fault today.

LOL - quit pulling Lumbergh's wanker and get out from under the desk. We were down THREE... THREE!!!!!!!!!! It does not matter if the score was 10-7 or 43-40, the bottom line is we were down THREE. Did I mention THREE???

There is ZERO leadership qualities in Anderson. None. He cannot rally a team. He cannot will a team to win. He does not have IT. He did exactly in that sequence of plays that he has done since he was in college. Once adversity sets in, he falters. Period. That is the equivalent of hitting .150 with runners in scoring position and two outs - you cannot handle it.

So do NOT give me this BS that Anderson is NOT to blame. It is HIS job to take the team downfield and at least tie it up. He did not. Nobody has run on the Ravens this year so the plan is to pass on them - oh, and did I mention they were missing 3 out of 4 starters in the secondary???

Plain and simple, this experiment has got to end. Our best hope is Anderson gets hurt and put on IR because until that happens, this team will continue to fade when it counts the most. That begins with the QB and the coach. Neither deserves to be here any longer. Period.

Perfectly stated.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/3573https://brownsboard.com/post/3573Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:01:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This team needs ALOT OF WORK on Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:00:24 GMT]]>Hey Barney! Aunt Bee want's you and DA to come over for supper! But first give me that damn bullet in your pocket, you might shoot yourself in the foot.

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For once DA is innocent.

Bullshit. He and his 50% completion % can blow me already. Plus, have you watched him late in games?

It's not bullshit.....the Browns couldn't run the ball today at all. The INT he threw....the play was a bust.....so if he throws it away? then what? DA was fine today.....blame goes to coaching and the defense. You guys blame DA but fail to mention 27-13 with Baltimore facing a 3rd and long........and then BE dropping a perfect pass that would put the game away. NO not DA's fault today.

DA was not fine today chud has altered the gameplan to make da look better and deliver less intercepts and he still doesnt play better flacco played better an 8 game pro does that not tell you anything?

It tells me flacco is the guy we had hoped da was flacco is improving da is not..

Yeah the coaches suck too but da is crap he has no confidence anymore yet rac still throws him out there...

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/3568https://brownsboard.com/post/3568Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:58:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This team needs ALOT OF WORK on Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:58:02 GMT]]>I'm pretty sure that Romeo needs to go after this one. You just can't win football games by playing so conservatively. You need to go all out and take risks. While I do feel that there are various players to blame, I strongly believe it all comes back to the coaching which has been nothing but abysmal. The Ravens figured out our offense late in the game and we did nothing to change it. It's games like this that piss me off because we had it in our hands and dropped it, just like Braylon.

Romeo + his staff deserves to leave after this one. Our season is already gone with this game so there's no reason why we shouldn't shake things up and take the rest of the season to gel it together

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/3565https://brownsboard.com/post/3565Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:58:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to This team needs ALOT OF WORK on Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:54:11 GMT]]>p.s. and I know listening to the color guys is irritating, but every so often they mention stats like baltiwhore has a record 27-28 games of holding teams under the century mark on the ground. So the fact that we weren't strong on the ground today may have been affected by the defense who owns that stat.

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