<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Abram Elam]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Eric Mangini continues to pick through the Jets' cupboard. Today, the Browns hosted two Jets free agents - S Abram Elam and CB Hank Poteat, according to a league source.
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Elam is a restricted free agent, but means the Jets have the right of first refusal. Because Elam was an undrafted free agent out of college and because he received the lowest tender possible ($1.01 million), the Jets aren't entitled to any draft-pick compensation if he goes elsewhere.</p>

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Elam was a clutch performer last season, making several big plays (just ask J.P. Losman), but he became a spare part when Rex Ryan signed former Ravens S Jim Leonhard to a three-year, $5.875 million contract.</p>
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Poteat isn't exciting but the little I did see from Elam last season is interesting........</p>

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via <b><a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2009/03/mangini-poaching-gang-green-to.html" rel="external nofollow">here</a></b>.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/topic/3524/abram-elam</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2026 06:33:48 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://brownsboard.com/topic/3524.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:08:31 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Sun, 26 Apr 2009 05:29:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>So who is Abram Elam?</p>

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Abram Elam  #27  S</p>

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2008 STATS</p>
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TACK	FF	INT</p>
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69	3	1</p>
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Birth Date	October 15, 1981</p>
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Birth Place	</p>
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Height	6-0</p>
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Weight	207 lbs.</p>

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Age	27</p>
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Position	S</p>
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Experience	4 years</p>
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College	Kent State</p>

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2008 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.</p>
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Grade: 58 | Key</p>
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Alert: None</p>

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Comment: Elam is a second-year player who has good size and above-average athletic ability. He plays off the hash or up in the box because the Jets like to disguise their coverages with lots of movement by their safeties. He has an average peddle and appears to have just an above-average burst to close off the hash. He is at his best coming downhill as a run-support defender. He doesn't have great lateral agility or quickness and will overextend at times in space. He has good power and pop on contact and is a sure tackler in a restricted area. Elam is a solid reactor reading route progressions and leveraging receivers. He is effective in short and intermediate-zone coverages, but can be a liability in pure man schemes. He needs to develop his blitz moves and counters because the Jets like to put eight in the box and bring pressure. He appears to be somewhat one-dimensional because he rarely makes many plays in the passing game. Elam must continue to develop and expand his overall game to be a consistent contributor.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/65137</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/65137</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[mz.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 05:29:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:54:33 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/louisville-slugger" aria-label="Profile: louisville-slugger">@<bdi>louisville-slugger</bdi></a> <a href="/post/53685">said</a>:</p>It sux we dont get Elam but the jets have an abundance of safeties. Elam or Smith still may get cut when the jets slim the roster. 
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Milloy would be a horrible signing. Sure he was great and he does still play physical but he has no coverage skills left. Roy Williams would be a much better pick. Someone said hed be expensive but he was benched the last 2 seasons. We can probably sign him to a contract like Elam was offered and see if he will fit the system. If not he was a stop gap and hopefully we picked up a decent saftey in the draft.</p>

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Mike Brown would be a biit more expensive and covers better but he is always hurt. He also is a better fit for FS and I wouldnt be opposed to putting Pool at SS but I think Brown isnt worth the risk.</p>

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Giordondo(misspelled badly I know) seems like the best option he can split time with a rookie who hopefully takes the position. Plus he should be fairly cheap.</p>
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I would definately be opposed to putting Adams at SS.  He is a special teams player and a backup at FS.  He showed last year he couldn't handle SS.  I'd rather give Hamza Abdullah a shot before Adams.  Ultimately we need to use a 2nd round pick on a SS.  Some don't realize the hugh importance that a SS is in the 3-4 defensive scheme.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53743</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53743</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[YtownBrownsBacker]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:54:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:52:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>It sux we dont get Elam but the jets have an abundance of safeties. Elam or Smith still may get cut when the jets slim the roster. </p>

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Milloy would be a horrible signing. Sure he was great and he does still play physical but he has no coverage skills left. Roy Williams would be a much better pick. Someone said hed be expensive but he was benched the last 2 seasons. We can probably sign him to a contract like Elam was offered and see if he will fit the system. If not he was a stop gap and hopefully we picked up a decent saftey in the draft.</p>

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Mike Brown would be a biit more expensive and covers better but he is always hurt. He also is a better fit for FS and I wouldnt be opposed to putting Pool at SS but I think Brown isnt worth the risk.</p>

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Giordondo(misspelled badly I know) seems like the best option he can split time with a rookie who hopefully takes the position. Plus he should be fairly cheap.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53685</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53685</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Louisville Slugger]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:52:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:25:24 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Great value at SS in the second round.  One reason why we need to accumulate additional picks in day one.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53470</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53470</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[YtownBrownsBacker]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:25:24 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:49:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>agreed.. he was a good safety... tackled well and had like 5 picks last year or something?!?! could be wrong about the picks.. but it seemed he wanted to pass the blame if he got beat...</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53418</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53418</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Browns2405]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:49:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:05:50 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>This attitude may have had a large roll in him not being brought back. Those DBs have to trust each other. It sure didn't appear that he was upset with himself on these plays.</p>

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I agree. It wasn't that Jones was a terrible SS by any means. He just had a major weakness and teams continually exploited it. You never know, a strong pass rush could have made him a terrific player, ya know?</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53408</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53408</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[onefellswoop7]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:05:50 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:50:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I'm not saying he broke down on every play but on plays he complained and they showed the replay he was the one (in most cases) who got beat...</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53404</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53404</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Browns2405]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:50:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:48:26 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/browns2405" aria-label="Profile: browns2405">@<bdi>browns2405</bdi></a> <a href="/post/53401">said</a>:</p>I remember quite a few times Sean Jones would be on tv throwing his hands up as if in confusion or yellin at someone for blowing coverage and it turned out to be him... so I figured thow out the fact that Roy couldn't cover spilled milk and let the man play up in the box and help in the run...</blockquote>


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Ugh. Exactly! That was so annoying to watch. He never took the blame for those mistake. People tend to think because they saw him upset and looking around for Wright, Bmac, or Pool that it was not his fault. When you saw him angry like that it was because he knew he screwed up. Poor poker face.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53403</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53403</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[onefellswoop7]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:48:26 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:43:51 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I remember quite a few times Sean Jones would be on tv throwing his hands up as if in confusion or yellin at someone for blowing coverage and it turned out to be him... so I figured thow out the fact that Roy couldn't cover spilled milk and let the man play up in the box and help in the run...</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53401</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53401</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Browns2405]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:43:51 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:39:45 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>No Roy Williams. The guy is basically another LB now. He is slow and can't cover. That's why he wants to play in a 4-3 now. The 4-3 relies less on cover skills and he'd be utilized more for his strong hits.</p>

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Lawyor Milloy is also garbage. Not a chance.</p>

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Looks like Mike Brown may be one of our only FA options left.</p>


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Otherwise we're banking on the draft (like the hard nosed Chung in round 2) or pushing Cribbs into that roll...</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53398</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53398</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[onefellswoop7]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:39:45 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:36:21 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I'd rather see Roy Williams...</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53394</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53394</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Browns2405]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:36:21 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:11:27 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Just saw this on NFL.com, the Browns did NOT get Abram Elam from the Jets.  Too bad.</p>

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<a href="http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80f4ef90&amp;template=without-video-with-comments&amp;confirm=true" rel="external nofollow">http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true</a></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53387</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53387</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Fooleeze]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:11:27 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:54:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Aloysius <a href="/post/53246">said</a>:</p>According to the guys at the OBR, Mangini has been talking to Lawyer Milloy about possibly joining the team.</blockquote>

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Yep, that would be a nice stopgap.  You got to keep in mind also, Pool is one concussion away from retirement.  Mailloy would be great then you wouldn't have to go after one of the top SSs, you could wait and get a Chip Vaughn.  Now, depending on how many picks we can accumulate, I might still go after one of the top three.  As much as we differ in opinion about him, Moore had a great pro day.  Some scouts and coaches have said he has the agility to play FS in the NFL.</p>

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Bottom line, we need to trade down and trade Anderson.  I have friends that live in Jax.  They are telling me that rumors are they love Crabtree and are afraid Cincy will take him.  Could be a partner.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53256</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53256</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[YtownBrownsBacker]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:54:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:45:46 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Milloy would be a nice pickup, VERY physical and aggressive we need some of that *cough*Maualuga*cough*</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53248</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53248</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[PlaygroundLegend]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:45:46 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:41:43 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/ytownbrownsbacker" aria-label="Profile: ytownbrownsbacker">@<bdi>ytownbrownsbacker</bdi></a> <a href="/post/53223">said</a>:</p><span style="color:#000000">I don't see anybody in FA  that could help at SS so I think it is now very important to find a way to get additional picks.  They have to trade Anderson and/or trade down if they want to fill those pressing needs at Center, SS, WR and OLB.</span></blockquote>
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According to the guys at the OBR, Mangini has been talking to Lawyer Milloy about possibly joining the team.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53246</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53246</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Aloysius]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:41:43 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:44:44 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Elam made a couple of big plays for us last year but thats basically all he was good for. He made the occassional big play.</p>

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1. 92 yard INT return for TD against Buffalo.</p>

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2. Strip sack fumble on Marc Bulger returned for TD by Calvin Pace.</p>

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3. Strip sack fumble on J.P Losman returned for TD by Ellis (Saved the Jets season at the time and kept themin the drivers seat in the AFC East).</p>

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Other then those 3 big plays though the guy didnt do much. He has some potential and the right coach could get it out of him. He's an average player at best.</p>

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Hank Poteat is a solid signing. He was a fan favorite amongst Jet fans. He's nothing special but he does his job. A solid number 3 or 4 CB.</p>

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Eric Barton is a tackling machine. I think you guys will like him. He's a pretty good player.</p>

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CJ Mosley is a solid backup D-Lineman. Nothing special but he is capable.</p>

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David Bowens is a solid versitile LB who can play both inside and outside at LB in the 3-4. He's a good depth player. Another guy who got off to a very good start last year before the blitzing just stopped.</p>

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Just throwing my thoughts in on some of the Jets players that you guys have signed.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53229</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53229</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jetsfan89]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:44:44 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:27:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I don't see anybody in FA  that could help at SS so I think it is now very important to find a way to get additional picks.  They have to trade Anderson and/or trade down if they want to fill those pressing needs at Center, SS, WR and OLB.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53223</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53223</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[YtownBrownsBacker]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:27:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:28:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Elam wasn't worth more than that.  Yes, he had moments last year but he's a very inconsistent player.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53201</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53201</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Earl34]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:28:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:23:08 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/onefellswoop7" aria-label="Profile: onefellswoop7">@<bdi>onefellswoop7</bdi></a> <a href="/post/53172">said</a>:</p>We must not have liked him enough since we only offered 1.5 mil. That isn't necessarily starter money. I'm not happy having missed out on him and there being nobody else in FA. I was never sold on Jones. He was usual seen throwing his hands up in disgust, looking for someone to blame for the secondary being beat deep or on a TD. Quite often, he was one of the guys beat. However, letting him walk and going into the draft hoping to land a starter is iffy. Especially with holes at practically every position.</blockquote>

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You can only offer a backup so much guaranteed money.  I don't think you over pay average players just because you have a hole.  Same goes for Jones.  We got into this mess by overpaying guys because we had needs.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53200</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53200</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[YtownBrownsBacker]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:23:08 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:18:08 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>We must not have liked him enough since we only offered 1.5 mil. That isn't necessarily starter money. I'm not happy having missed out on him and there being nobody else in FA. I was never sold on Jones. He was usual seen throwing his hands up in disgust, looking for someone to blame for the secondary being beat deep or on a TD. Quite often, he was one of the guys beat. However, letting him walk and going into the draft hoping to land a starter is iffy. Especially with holes at practically every position.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53172</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53172</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[onefellswoop7]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:18:08 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:09:00 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>
Seems like a nice guy</p>


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nice sack</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53169</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53169</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[PlaygroundLegend]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:09:00 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:00:15 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Jets matched the Browns' one-year, $1.5 million offer sheet to S Abram Elam, ensuring that Elam will play in New York in 2009.</p>
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Elam will likely back up Jim Leonhard and Kerry Rhodes, but he flashed big play ability as a starter last year with three forced fumbles, a 92-yard pick six, and two sacks. He'll battle Eric Smith in camp to be the Jets' third safety.</p>
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Source: Newark Star-Ledger</p>
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Related: Browns</p>


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Looks like we're desperate for a SS now. If we don't draft one with one of our first 3 picks (most likely our second unless they see Jenkins is worth #5 for a safety which I doubt). That is a position I wouldn't feel too great about throwing a 2nd round rookie into. As of now...we're NOT in good shape. Too many major holes to try to fill to be competitive (RT, RB, WR, C, SS, OLB, ILB, DE).</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53162</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53162</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[onefellswoop7]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:00:15 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:33:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/hammertime" aria-label="Profile: hammertime">@<bdi>hammertime</bdi></a> <a href="/post/53147">said</a>:</p>The Browns must realize this too.  Those who have the fond memories can only try to convince the youth that the Browns can turn it around.  Eventually its the youth that will be buying the tickets.</blockquote>
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I guess that's the point I was trying to get at.</p>
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Thanks for making it is not as many words, people might not understand, guess I didn't sum it up as well as I'd have hoped to.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53152</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53152</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tobalaz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:33:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abram Elam on Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:17:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tobalaz" aria-label="Profile: tobalaz">@<bdi>tobalaz</bdi></a> <a href="/post/53042">said</a>:</p>We've been so bad as of late the only thing we have to hope for is the next guy coming in and cleaning up the current guy's mess.<p>
Be honest with me here, how many of us are SURE Eric is the right coach this time?  I'm not.  </p>
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Everything I've sen him do to this point feels like a step in the right direction, but right now it's feeling more like getting BB from the Giants with him brining in "his guys" and trading away what talent we've already got for more picks to get more of the kinds of guys he likes.</p>
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Yet part of me still latches on to that hope that we're going to get it right this time.</p>
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If it weren't for fond childhood memories of the 80s I'd probably not give a damn at all right now. We're losing the younger generation and THAT is a crying shame.  If this next combo doesn't work out I'll be right there with Rich and Ghoolie saying Learner has got to go, give me something other than a young Al Davis.</p>
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The Browns must realize this too.  Those who have the fond memories can only try to convince the youth that the Browns can turn it around.  Eventually its the youth that will be buying the tickets.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/53147</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/53147</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[hammertime]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:17:02 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>