@ytownbrownsbacker said:

I don't like underachiever players who think they are owed something. I mention Plax because the situation with Edwards is very simular to what was going on with Plax in Pittsburgh. He felt underappreciated and wanted to be the face of the team. He bolted on them just like Edwards will on us.

He has dropped passes at every level all his life. He can be a super star but will alwys be close to the top of the league in drops, every year. He does make great catches and is a great athlete. But, my whole point is he will bolt after this year. One reason is the new offense will not feature him. Second reason is he is not a team player. Third reason is because he can.

i read the board off and on from time to time and although i have read you bash Edwards before i did not know you were a fan of the OS until this very moment. i didn't say you have an axe to grind because you are a fan, but because you are grinding axes IMO--i calls em like i sees em. but for the record sorry for wrongfully accusing you if in fact i am wrong about it.

what gives you the impression Edwards feels he's owed something? when did he say he wanted to be the face of the team? wow Ytown you seem to be generalizing quite a bit about people donchathink? the only reason i could see him "bolting from CLE" is if he heard people like you saying things like that.

trying to make a dream a reality? and i'm not saying that because i found out you like the OS.

how is he not a team player?

i'll admit he lacks that "fire" that ignites those around him, but ef em--these are the pros. let them motivate themselves. what else?

no drugs good peeps elite athlete. drops and toughness questionable. i still like our chances.

@sisky-fringo said:

Edwards is a great talent and I don't care what team he played for in college. Saying I have an ax to grind because I like Ohio State is beyond stupid...............................I'm a Browns fan and like Brown's players.

I don't like underachiever players who think they are owed something. I mention Plax because the situation with Edwards is very simular to what was going on with Plax in Pittsburgh. He felt underappreciated and wanted to be the face of the team. He bolted on them just like Edwards will on us.

He has dropped passes at every level all his life. He can be a super star but will alwys be close to the top of the league in drops, every year. He does make great catches and is a great athlete. But, my whole point is he will bolt after this year. One reason is the new offense will not feature him. Second reason is he is not a team player. Third reason is because he can.

@ytownbrownsbacker said:

that story was overblown. we need to let it die and quit rehashing it....unless that's your agenda.

i certainly can't be certain, how can you?

Does Plaxco's history look very simular to Edwards.

if that's a question-NO. advance 100 isn't in Plax's resy bro.

WE aren't going to the super bowl this year so what good does Edwards hanging around this year being a distraction do for the team?

you sound like you have an axe to grind. you wouldn't happen to be an Ohio State fan now would you?

Get what you can get for him and rebuild this team through the draft. Plenty of WRs in the draft with a better attitude and can catch.

again, one man gathers what another man spills. i'm not giving up on him--he has the ability to make catches less than 5 people in the entire league can make. his '08 drops are redeemable.

@sisky-fringo said:

where's he going?

He'll be a FA after this season and you could be certain he won't resign with a team that has fans that doesn't appreciate him. Does Plaxco's history look very simular to Edwards. WE aren't going to the super bowl this year so what good does Edwards hanging around this year being a distraction do for the team.

Get what you can get for him and rebuild this team through the draft. Plenty of WRs in the draft with a better attitude and can catch.

@inspecta said:

Not to mention he wasn't hitting the hole with any sort of speed or conviction.

I loved the guy after the 07 campaign, but after last year it's time to send him to pasture.

Nothing personal whatsoever....

but he's not a FA. why create roster issues?

with Jason Wright gone why not keep Jamal and get your money's worth?

@medicineman said:

they could use a solid journeyman like him.

@inspecta said:

Or why not some of Jim Browns old stuff....

The past is the past, and we go on what Jamal showed us the last time he strapped em' on. and that was absolutely nothing...

apparently AFCN 1,000 yards seasons grow on trees in Browns Board fantasy land.

i'd venture to say mangini would disagree w/ you.

anything personal against Jamal or something?

mz. said:

HUH?

Look, I love the guy and wish him all the best, but to think he'll continue his career at any serviceable level is wishful thinking.

last time JJ played he was 3rd in the NFL on 3rd downs. he was easily the Brown's best blocking WR, K2 included, and drew penalties at will w/ hands of glue that would rival Fitzgerald.

no love for the subtle nuances? Crabtree is barely a sexy pick and would be lucky to be on Joe's level of intangibles by year 4.

@clevelandfanforlife said:

step away from the board from time to time friend. it's good for perspective.

no way, huh?

lol

@inspecta said:

i think ye might wanna pop in the 2007 Jets game again.....take a little stroll down mangini lane.

@sisky-fringo said:

where's he going?

you must have been paying much attention the past 2 months, but he will either be traded or he will leave after next season. there is no way he signs back with us after this upcoming year.

@clevelandfanforlife said:

??

where's he going?

@dirty-hands said:

i'd take BPA and trade before i'd even consider Michael Crabtree.

maybe at #36.

The stallworth tragedy will likely throw a big monkey wrench in the mankok rebuilding plan no matter the outcome..possibly having to take a WR at #5 is not such a bad thing either crabknee or mactank would show BE to the slot 2 by the end of preseason and if old mother hubbard grew some hands it wouldnt be impossible to see BE competing for the slot 3 spot where he belongs..

@deadwombat said:

So did LCB and where is he playing now?

@gips said:

Exactly. I have been a Crabtree advocate since long before Stallworth's issues came up.

@deadwombat said:

Joe was healthy enough physically to continue playing and even publicly stated that he was more than ready to come back.

HUH?

Look, I love the guy and wish him all the best, but to think he'll continue his career at any serviceable level is wishful thinking.

@inspecta said:

Either way if Curry is gone and Crabtree is there I don't see how we can't take him. Everybody else is a reach at 5.

Edwards

Crabtree

With either Steptoe or Hubbard playing the slot (more likely steptoe) that's not too shabby right there.

But then we have to address the RB issue. I have no problem going to war with Harrison in the backfield, but we need somebody else to split carries with him and right now I have 0 confidence in Lewis even for short yardage goaline situations.

We can always spend one of those second round picks on a WR, who knows maybe Robiskie will still be around.

mz. said:

He's actually only 34 ( )which, I admit is old, but he is still good enough to continue playing. Hell, Randy Moss is 32! Oh, we better fire his wrinkly, senile behind before he dies of old age right there on the feild!

Joe was healthy enough physically to continue playing and even publicly stated that he was more than ready to come back. Besides... do you really think we can afford to look for ANOTHER WR now that Stallworth is likely out of the picture?

@deadwombat said:

JJ has had 50 knee surgeries and is 40 years old. He is/was not the type or caliber of player anymore to have any meaningful effect on our draft strategy.