@douche-nozzle said:

No bet was made.

You do understand that when a bet is made that 2 people have to agree to the terms. Or maybe you don't.....but that is the way it is.

If the Vag wants to make a bet so much, he will agree to my terms.

@vagitron said:

Then make the bet. I don't need to repeat my terms. You wanna make a deal with me, you know my terms.

@trolling-for-dick said:

Ha!....how appropriate......The unbiased Troll Dick shows up for a lil troll Vag.....

And when you 2 get gone slobbering all over each other, perhaps you should insert a douche nozzle to help clear the stink.....

@trolling-for-dick said:

I like what I see right now. I see a committment to winning with the organization I haven't seen since the Browns came back into the league in 99. I don't think the Browns could have gotten a better HC than Pettine. Now we have some good people in place having some continuity I believe is going to make all the difference.

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well, we do rock at entertainment around here. Having a sense of humor goes well with being a

Browns fan. So does opitimism, which will be justified hugely by our Browns having a winning season

this year. Take it to the bank !

@oldbrownsfan said:

The question was rhetorical, but thanks. Let's hope the rivalry returns to what it was 25 years ago.

@trolling-for-dick said:

Since 1950 The Steelers have not dominated the series against the Browns (until recently). In fact when the rivalary started in 1950 for many years the series was dominated by the Browns. It has only been recently when the Browns organization has done badly since coming back into the league that the Steelers have dominated the series. The overall record between the two teams gives the Steelers an edge 68 to 58 primarily due to how badly the Browns have done since coming back into the league in 99. Before 99 the Browns were leading the series.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/game_query.cgi?tm1=cle&tm2=pit&yr=all

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browns%E2%80%93Steelers_rivalry

@canton-dawg said:

And what is there record against the Steelers over lets say the last 50 years? The Browns are going to win once in a while, I'll give you that. They still suck and you know it.

@canton-dawg said:

The last time they played, my sucky Browns beat the snot out of your non-sucky Steelers.

So much for your evidence.

Hey shit happens! ...but at least you're keeping it in perspective about who really sucks and who doesn't! lol

Whats scary is the browns almost came back and beat them in that first game. I think Steeler fans going forward can forget about chalking up future browns games as easy wins.

@the-gipper said:

I am not the one that proposed the bet. I never claimed to put faith in the Browns.

And you can make clear anything you want. I have made my demands even clearer.

Its a bad bet and my initial bet mentioned nothing of winning the division even though I anticipate that is exactly what is going to happen.

@vagitron said:

I am not the one that proposed the bet. I never claimed to put faith in the Browns.

And you can make clear anything you want. I have made my demands even clearer.

@vagitron said:

Still not acceptable.

But, I will give you a little concession: more time: You have until the Browns are on the clock on Draft Day to accept these terms.

@the-gipper said:

How do you figure that? Like I said.....meet the terms of my counterdemand.

A. $300.00 in escrow.

B. Banishment from draft day until Jan. 1, 2016

C. Steelers win AFCN.

D. If they don't...I get the money....and you are out further until opening day 2016.

I lose, then Z can call me whatever you want my screen name to be...and you can stay after Jan. 1.

I made it pretty clear I don't like these terms. I proposed a solution. Your end of the bet puts zero faith in the browns.

@vagitron said:

How do you figure that? Like I said.....meet the terms of my counterdemand.

A. $300.00 in escrow.

B. Banishment from draft day until Jan. 1, 2016

C. Steelers win AFCN.

D. If they don't...I get the money....and you are out further until opening day 2016.

I lose, then Z can call me whatever you want my screen name to be...and you can stay after Jan. 1.

@the-gipper said:

I will let you do it if she agrees. Otherwise it is rape....and pretty much your life in a cell with a guy name Quayshawn.

Nah I'm just going to find a gay dude on tinder that will carry out my amended terms. You need to wear the wig and utter the phrase.

@the-gipper said:

@vagitron said:

I don't like this bet Thomas. I like my initial bet

Of course, you had absolutely nothing at stake.

and I'd prefer it be between just the browns you are so sure of and the steelers.

I am not sure of anything. You are the one that is so cocksure.

Your bet also includes the ravens and the Bengals.

Yes, it does. Like I said, you are the cocksure one. The Browns were a last place team for like yea many years running. You have to have skin in the game if you want to play.

can give you a buzz later maybe, although you are probably out of the office now.

Just leave whatever you have to say on the board.

Hell maybe I will mail you a care package.

No need, to accept my terms you will mail a check to Z or MarkO....or Hoorta would be fine too. One of them has to agree to serve as intermediary.

Thomas B. Gipson of Barberton. Your ego got you in a bit of a pickle.

Not at all. You proposed a bet that was one sided, I made a counter demand. You can take the terms of my counterdemand or leave it. My ego is perfectly intact either way.

You tied yourself to arkon u last week.

Yea, because I went to Akron U. I am also tied to Cleveland State, Kenyon, Trinity, and Cornell. Where would you have me tied to if not my alma mater's and the schools that my kids attend?

You then told me where your office was, I googled it of course. Found Thomas. B Gipson attorney at law, Tuscarawas Avenue. If I weren't a bigger person I could have one hell of a time with this one.

Everyone here knows who I am and where I can be found. My only advice to you is that if you are coming, bring the retainer.

I agreed to a 12 month ban. You had to change your name. I had plenty at stake.

@vagitron said:

I will let you do it if she agrees. Otherwise it is rape....and pretty much your life in a cell with a guy name Quayshawn.

@vagitron said:

@calfoxwc said:

Yes, squeaeler "fans" have no qualms about crapping out some other team's board.

I swear Vagisil was booted off his own squealer board.

sad.

My board is just a lot less fun. Full of great info but we all get along. The ones that don't usually find somewhere else to post.

I swear Vagisil was booted off his own squealer board.

sad.

@canton-dawg said:

Stalk much?

Google bro. Took 5 minutes. The internet is crazy and Gipper has an ego on him he let get a little wild.

@vagitron said:

I don't like this bet Thomas. I like my initial bet and I'd prefer it be between just the browns you are so sure of and the steelers. Your bet also includes the ravens and the Bengals. I can give you a buzz later maybe, although you are probably out of the office now. Hell maybe I will mail you a care package. Thomas B. Gipson of Barberton. Your ego got you in a bit of a pickle. You tied yourself to arkon u last week. You then told me where your office was, I googled it of course. Found Thomas. B Gipson attorney at law, Tuscarawas Avenue. If I weren't a bigger person I could have one hell of a time with this one.

Stalk much?

@the-gipper said:

Not even my wife or mother call me that. You are not allowed to be so familiar. You can call me The Gipper, and I will continue to call you The Pussy.

(Edit: I regret posting this as I don't know your wife, I'm assuming you already read it. All in good fun. I will just bend you over. same terms)

Stuart said:

That was a bit of the point......though I would like to see more of the objective data on all this stuff. So far we have only seen one source....PFF.