@gumby73 said:

there it is.....with the proper Marpet & Varga corrections .......a thousand times better than those ESPN hacks......

@gumby73 said:

HA!!!.....made me choke I laughed so hard.........FREAKING VARGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok....I did want to take him....really I did.....just trying new things here....mixing it up a lil.....

He is pretty awesome tho ....Im picking him next time.....

@tour2ma said:

Ha!.....I knew youd be in there with the Marpet thought and its valid.....and I knew because I thought long and hard about taking him myself.....almost did it over Smith in the second....then again with Orchard in the 3rd.....was a weird draft and never with anyone you REALLY want available...

In the end....when unsure....I always go defense....hence, nate

Vast improvement, Mud, but our O-line is only slightly better off with Finney over Thompson... which bottom line means that it was not helped.

Taking Orchard on top of Ray seems a little luxurious to me. My guy, Marpet was still there, so you'd know where I'd go.

That frees up pick 4a, but what to do with it is not immediately obvious.

Round 1 (12): DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville
Round 1 (19): Eddie Goldman, DT, Florida State
Round 2 (43): Denzel Perryman, ILB, Miami
Round 3 (77): Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State
Round 4 (111): Tyrus Thompson, OT, Oklahoma
Round 4 (115): Za'Darius Smith, DE, Kentucky
Round 5 (147): Ben Koyack, TE, Notre Dame
Round 6 (189): Darryl Roberts, CB, Marshall
Round 6 (202): Darren Waller, WR, Georgia Tech
Round 7 (229): J.R. Tavai, OLB, USC

ok....just to see what Id come up with I redrafted this using their board and only picking from the same people they had available.....here's what I got.....obviously Im very biased, but feeling pretty good overall about it.....

Rnd 1 -(12) Shane Ray DE

Rnd 1 -(19) Malcolm Brown DT/NT

Rnd 2 -(43) Devin Smith WR

Rnd 3 -(77) Nate Orchard OLB

Rnd 4 -(111) BJ Finney C

Rnd 4 -(115) Jeff Heuerman TE

Rnd 5 -(147) Kenny Bell WR

Rnd 6 -(189) Matt Jones FB

Rnd 6 -(202) Jordan Richards SS

Rnd 7 -(229) Justin Manton K

I don't like going WR with the first pick, but Goldman looks good and Perryman would be awesome in the second.

Grayson is linked pretty heavy to the Browns, isn't he? Talking with people, they seem to think he's a smart play for Farmer and Cleveland.

I do see some good stuff, but really cant get with WR at #12.....or Goldman at 19, with Brown and Ray still on the board......or Thompson & Smith in the 4th, with guys like Heuerman still on the board.....

Love this pick, wanted to go this route, but I wanted Shelton.

Round 1 (19): Eddie Goldman, DT, Florida State

Sometimes I wonder if Goldman will be there at 19. Good pick, though.

Round 2 (43): Denzel Perryman, ILB, Miami

Love the pick, but figured he'd go before the second round, or for sure

before the Browns pick in the second round.

Round 3 (77): Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State

Like the pick. He's quite a player.

Round 4 (111): Tyrus Thompson, OT, Oklahoma

Don't like it, unless you put him at OG, and even then,

not sure if his temperament is what I'd want on the oline.

Round 4 (115): Za'Darius Smith, DE, Kentucky

Only if you think he'd be a kickass ILB.... he isn't a DE in a 3-4.

Round 5 (147): Ben Koyack, TE, Notre Dame

Nice pick for the fifth. Like the Ohio State te better.

Round 6 (189): Darryl Roberts, CB, Marshall

I didn't look at cb's...but this kid may go higher. An awesome pick even higher.

Round 6 (202): Darren Waller, WR, Georgia Tech

Terrific pick if he becomes what he could be...no loss if he busts.

Round 7 (229): J.R. Tavai, OLB, USC

Eh... ILB? doesn't matter in the 7th...

I'd give this draft a B