@tour2ma said:

Sorry, but I don't see a similarity issue.

Sure, I agree... two #1s is steeper than I'd like to pay, but of your list only Shelton gives me pause... and it doesn't even matter to which Collins you are referring.

It's clearly Todd.

Sure, I agree... two #1s is steeper than I'd like to pay, but of your list only Shelton gives me pause... and it doesn't even matter to which Collins you are referring.

Depending on where we're looking to move up to(ad for whom)....Id think there is a good chance of trading #19 and other picks to get inside the top 10, while still maintaining #12 AND next years 1st.....

Make it work Farmer....

@londonbrown said:

Without looking at the chart - 3rd, maybe 4th rounder.

That wouldn't bother me so much. If we trade up to 9, nab Mariota without surrendering 19. I still don't think he'll be more than a slightly above average QB (which I think Petty can be with just as much time on the bench) but I wouldn't be quite as pissed. Then at 19 you can take best available DL/WR. In the 2nd round you can address OLB and OG in the 3rd.

@darren15 said:

Took our 5th rounder to go from 9 to 8 last year, but a third to go from 26 to 22

Who knows. . .

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I'd say that we are all set except for one humble, hardworking, crazy talented franchise quarterback away.

Two sides of the same coin?

Luckily by tomorrow morning all the phony rumor stories about the Browns planning a deal to trade their first round picks with everyone from Manchester United to the Montreal Canadiens will be over.

WSS

@westside-steve said:

I'd say that we are all set except for one humble, hardworking, crazy talented franchise quarterback away.

Two sides of the same coin?

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Exactly. I don't foresee them being one defensive franchise player away from winning the East. But two to four solid starters could easily make a difference.

So we can flush as many draft picks down the crapper as we like.

WSS

@tour2ma said:

Exactly. I don't foresee them being one defensive franchise player away from winning the East. But two to four solid starters could easily make a difference.

@clevfan4life said:

With all of the Redskins needs, I don't see them trading out. They have legit chance of nailing a franchise player in Fowler, Shelton, Beasley...all guys that fit their 3-4.

When you have more needs, you need more picks. That's why WSH would deal their #5.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I'd say less than 1%.

@hoorta said:

We have no idea what was offered- if anything. I doubt any reporting service does either. Pre draft smoke.

You must have enjoyed Draft Day. I don't have the energy anymore to dream up scenarios that have about a 1% chance of happening.

I'd say less than 1%.

@thenew23 said:

We have no idea what was offered- if anything. I doubt any reporting service does either. Pre draft smoke.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

If we weren't 100% on Mariota, I'd give up Manziel, #12, #19 and #76 (total=2285) for RG3, #5 and #37 (total = 2230 points).

Then I'd turn around and sell #5, #108 and a 2016 second to SD for their #17, #49 (1778) and a 2016 first round pick. (1360 points + future first round pick).

Then we'd have #17, #37, #44, #49, two 2016 first round picks and RG3 instead of #12, #19, and #44 and Manziel.

We could get a solid DT, a solid WR, a solid OL, and a solid LB with our first four picks, give RG3 one season and then go for Cardale if we need to.

The scenarios are only going to get worse the closer we get to Thursday.

You must have enjoyed Draft Day. I don't have the energy anymore to dream up scenarios that have about a 1% chance of happening.

@miktoxic said:

If we weren't 100% on Mariota, I'd give up Manziel, #12, #19 and #76 (total=2285) for RG3, #5 and #37 (total = 2230 points).

Then I'd turn around and sell #5, #108 and a 2016 second to SD for their #17, #49 (1778) and a 2016 first round pick. (1360 points + future first round pick).

Then we'd have #17, #37, #44, #49, two 2016 first round picks and RG3 instead of #12, #19, and #44 and Manziel.

We could get a solid DT, a solid WR, a solid OL, and a solid LB with our first four picks, give RG3 one season and then go for Cardale if we need to.

The scenarios are only going to get worse the closer we get to Thursday.

the griffin trade left their team decimated. the new GM wants to rebuild and needs more picks to do that.

this is another ply by a GM to let everyone know that they will accept a deal but they prob want what they gave up to get griffin and in no way if i were a GM would i do that unless the other team is desperate for a player there. i don't see the browns as that team.