@josephsuxdick said:

believe me dan rooney does not give a crap about me, just as i don't give a flying fuck about you.

go find a stooler's board you miserable troll.

you got the stoolers on national tv tonite, one of your players was inducted and all you can do is come on here and start shit. that means either you are a miserable piece of shit, or a little boy locked in a basement somewhere. i say both.

fuck you and anyone that looks like you.

@josephsuxdick said:

Now we know why Jeff Foxworthy didn't want any more Pittsburgh adults auditioning for "Are You Smarter than a 2nd Grader?" That show wouldn't be worth watching if the kids went undefeated.

Stuart said:

LOL! That's got a nice Conrad Dobler vibe to it Stu so good job by you man!

Vag wants everyone buying the Walt Disney happily ever version of the Pittsburgh Steelers rather than the research of SI or the observations of 1 former Steeler that unloaded a guilty conscience in the book False Glory: Steelers and Steroids. Too much compelling information to ignore.

Here's a shortened version of a story that helps shed some light on why Roger Goodfella remains forever obligated to the Rooney family business and it's bottom line of wins and losses. That intimate space inventory session at the hotel almost sounds gay enough to be the music video for Barbara Streisand's "The Way We Were."

Rooney drew the easy job, knocking on the door of Roger Goodell, hugging and congratulating Paul Tagliabue's right-hand man on being the right man to take on the job of commissioner for arguably America's most popular professional sports league. "I was doing some work, trying to be distracted, and Mr. Rooney came up and knocked on the door and told me," said Goodell, who received a five-year contract. "Thankfully, I had put my pants on."

"Roger knew it was good news because I was smiling," Rooney said later. "I was looking for the best person to be commissioner, and I had no doubt in my mind that was Roger Goodell. He has done everything during his term with the league in all the departments. He knows labor. He knows television. He knows the business end of it. And really he knows the fans. He's really capable and well-rounded."

Rooney stood up to lobby for Goodell before that deciding ballot.

"The continuity was very important to me," said Mara, whose family, along with the Rooneys, represent the NFL's founding generation. "Roger has an awareness of the history and the tradition that the league represents."

@flugel said:

Roger Goodfella clearly needs another pair of knee pads. Ever since Rooney made it clear he was the guy that got all 32 owners to form a consensus of approval on his his personal friend Roger - nobody's bottom line has been better protected since.

When there's 2 rape victims we know about regarding Ben Rapen - Rooney felt compelled to have a deputy on his payroll. Why would this be important? Hmmm.... Gee, I don't know - maybe important stuff can get lost and information can get buried? Also, interestingly enough, the scum bag securing the bathroom door for Ben Rapen at the night club was an off-duty cop. 2 is a trend everywhere except Pittsburgh's fan base. So how does a 2 time rapist (that we know about) get his football suspension reduced under an alleged under an iron fist announcing the NFL "No Nonsense" where violators will pay? Easy. He remains endlessly obligated to warming Rooney's groin so the suspension gets reduced by 1 game for Terrific Behavior. What did he do? Switch to the date rape drug known to give helpless victims temporary labotomies?

And exactly how many games did Pouncey miss for his August 2014 arrest under this NFL no nonsense fist of Roger Goodfella's? Zero. He just plays for the right owner.

And when Joe Haden was suspended a few years ago - how many games did Goodfella cut down his suspension by? Zero. He just played for the wrong owner. Come to think of it - how on earth does the 1 franchise that got featured in SI for all their premature death and disability via anabolic steroids only have 1 starter (Joel Steed twice) suspended for PEDs since the league began testing? Brentson Buckner magically didn't have dirty urine until he played for Carolina. Go figure. The same franchise was featured in a book written by a former Steeler named Steve Courson called "False Glory: Steelers and Steroids." He knew that book wouldn't make a dime in PA;but he felt it necessary to unload a guilty conscience about one of the 3-4 teams he played for that had the most pervasive abuse of anabolic steroids of any NFL team. My guess is the Rooney's have done all the blackmarket research on how to keep them a step ahead of the NFL drug testing. Hiring an HGH fan as the team doctor remained ahead of what the outdated drug testing could pick up. Another way that ownership family can manipulate the favors behind closed doors is to keep guys like Joey Porter and Greg Lloyd from ever getting their urine samples to be allowed into the random selection by making NFL Commissioners feeling like they are forever obligated to the Rooney family. Greggy Lloyd once got arrested for tying his wife and Jr to 2 different chairs during a domestic violence incident involving raging hormones. The heart warming story for Steeler fans is thank God his dirty urine wasn't allowed into the random testing population. Unfortunately, JR got to see the ugly side of roid rather where daddy role models up a pistol to mommy's temple while tied to a mommy's tied helplessly to a chair just like he is. If that's winning at all costs, I'm glad there's only 1 fan base proud of it. One former Steeler wasn't proud of this and his book wasn't well liked in PA.

One might ask - how does 32 NFL owners allow such a thing? Keep in mind, what how much their shared revenues have increased due to TV contracts. I heard on a rdio show here in Middle TN that this was putting more revenue in owner's pockets that home attendances so the little market teams won'tbe a squeaky wheel while Jerry Jones is rumored to have the best palace in the NFL.

Now, when Bell is dumb enough to announce he smoked marijuana to press reporting it to the public in August of 2014 - his suspension got carefully deferred until 2015. Hmmmm. What did that enable his close friend Rooney to do? Use the offseason to sign a FA RB (former 1st round pick) DeAngelo Williams so the win-loss column bottom line got well protected. Not only that, but Bell had enough wear and tear and injury to where missing the first 2-3 games in 2015 wasn't a bad thing at all for Pittsburgh's season ahead. Goodfella gave Pittsburgh time to problem-solve that he doesn't provide other owner's the liberty of doing.

Has anyone ever figured out why James Harrison's wife needs to be in a battered women's support group? The Pittsburgh Gazette conveniently left that part out when they were painting up their version of a local hero. Once Rooney reminded Roger he can FINE Steelers in lieu of continuing to suspend them - all the fine money from fans that wouldn't be allowed to cover the Defensive MVP's football fines got donated to the battered woman's shelter that Harrison's wife continued to need. Does a wife needing this group as long as her husband plays for Rooney fit this "No Nonsense" iron fist or is this only for players that aren't employed by Rooney? I never expected Pittsburgh's fan base to be smart enough to ask why does Harrison's wife still need her support group.

How many other franchises could have had an unethical doctor fascinated with HGH employed as their team doctor for 22 years? He's a fun guy to look up in where are they now.

Holy cow! There's only one man on this board I know that can successfully debunk all of that...

You're up Vagitron!

@miktoxic said:

i don't single out the steelers for that. i mentioned the steelers because of the 2 people responding to the post with personal venom towards brady and the pats is coming from steeler fans.

sorry they've been the best team in the afc for the past decade or so and it's new dynasty team. if the browns would make it to the playoffs every year and get knocked off and watch the patriots win it all (again), i'd prob be bitching like you too. the fact is belichik and brady are first ballot HOFers and if people want to hate them, go ahead. but don't complain then when people hate on ben or hate on poly, cuz it's basically the same thing. fans of arch rivals hating on great players of their rivals. i don't like the off the field ben roethlisberger but i sure as hell respect what he does on the field and to people that just want to hate on him then i say "haters gotta hate." there are a lot of browns fans here who hate anything steelers, i'm not one of them. if the browns consistently finish last in the division, it's not the steelers fault.

so..........

You're going to have to show where I am bitching about Brady. I've remained neutral on deflategate because I can clearly see the pettiness... whatever happens happens. Your beef is with Vag.

KA-CHING !!!!

@walterwhite said:

Roger Goodfella clearly needs another pair of knee pads. Ever since Rooney made it clear he was the guy that got all 32 owners to form a consensus of approval on his personal friend Roger - nobody's bottom line has been better protected since.

When there's 2 rape victims we know about regarding Ben Rapen - Rooney felt compelled to have a deputy on his payroll. Why would this be important? Hmmm.... Gee, I don't know - maybe important stuff can get lost and information can get buried? Also, interestingly enough, the scum bag securing the bathroom door for Ben Rapen at the night club was an off-duty cop. 2 is a trend everywhere except Pittsburgh's fan base. So how does a 2 time rapist (that we know about) get his football suspension reduced under an alleged iron fist announcing the NFL's "No Nonsense" where violators will pay? Easy. He remains endlessly obligated to warming Rooney's groin so the suspension gets reduced by 1 game for Terrific Behavior. What did he do? Switch to the date rape drug known to give helpless victims temporary labotomies?

And exactly how many games did Pouncey miss for his August 2014 arrest under this NFL no nonsense fist of Roger Goodfella's? Zero. He just plays for the right owner.

And when Joe Haden was suspended a few years ago - how many games did Goodfella cut down his suspension by? Zero. He just played for the wrong owner. Come to think of it - how on earth does the 1 franchise that got featured in SI for all their premature death and disability via anabolic steroids only have 1 starter (Joel Steed twice) suspended for PEDs since the league began testing? Brentson Buckner magically didn't have dirty urine until he played for Carolina. Go figure. The same franchise was featured in a book written by a former Steeler named Steve Courson called "False Glory: Steelers and Steroids." He knew that book wouldn't make a dime in PA; but he felt it necessary to unload a guilty conscience about one of the 3-4 teams he played for that had the most pervasive abuse of anabolic steroids of them or any NFL team. My guess is the Rooney's have done all the blackmarket research on how to keep them a step ahead of the NFL drug testing. Hiring an HGH fan as the team doctor remained ahead of what the outdated drug testing could pick up. Another way that ownership family can manipulate the favors behind closed doors is to keep guys like Joey Porter and Greg Lloyd from ever getting their urine samples to be allowed into the random selection by making NFL Commissioners feeling like they are forever obligated to the Rooney family. Greggy Lloyd once got arrested for tying his wife and Jr to 2 different chairs during a domestic violence incident involving raging hormones. The heart warming story for Steeler fans is thank God his dirty urine wasn't allowed into the random testing population. Unfortunately, JR got to see the ugly side of roid rage where daddy role models up a pistol to mommy's temple while she's tied helplessly to a chair just like he is. If that's winning at all costs, I'm glad there's only 1 fan base proud of it. One former Steeler wasn't proud of this and his book wasn't well liked in PA.

One might ask - how does 32 NFL owners allow such a thing between Goodell and Rooney? Keep in mind, what how much their shared revenues have increased due to TV contracts. I heard on a radio show here in Middle TN that this was putting more revenue in owner's pockets that home attendances so the little market teams won't be a squeaky wheel while Jerry Jones is rumored to have the best palace in the NFL (yanking away millions of reasons for him to complain as well).

Now, when Bell is dumb enough to announce he smoked marijuana to press reporting it to the public in August of 2014 - his suspension got carefully deferred until 2015. Hmmmm. What did that enable his close friend Rooney to do? Use the offseason to sign a FA RB (former 1st round pick) DeAngelo Williams so the win-loss column bottom line got well protected. Not only that, but Bell had enough wear and tear and injury to where missing the first 2-3 games in 2015 wasn't a bad thing at all for Pittsburgh's season ahead. Goodfella gave Pittsburgh time to problem-solve that he doesn't provide other owner's the liberty of doing.

Has anyone ever figured out why James Harrison's wife needs to be in a battered women's support group? The Pittsburgh Gazette conveniently left that part out when they were painting up their version of a local hero. Once Rooney reminded Roger he can FINE Steelers in lieu of continuing to suspend them for things like head hunting - all the fine money from fans that wouldn't be allowed to cover the Defensive MVP's football fines got donated to the battered woman's shelter that Harrison's wife continued to need. Does a wife needing this group as long as her husband plays for Rooney fit this "No Nonsense" iron fist or is this only for players that aren't employed by Rooney? I never expected Pittsburgh's fan base to be smart enough to ask why does Harrison's wife still needs her support group.

How many other franchises could have had an unethical doctor fascinated with HGH employed as their team doctor for 22 years? He's gotta be a fun guy to look up in where are they now. They never read him his rights so Pittsburgh fans everywhere could rejoice and tell us he was as innocent as OJ Simpson once was for slitting 2 throats.

Stuart said:

i don't single out the steelers for that. i mentioned the steelers because of the 2 people responding to the post with personal venom towards brady and the pats is coming from steeler fans.

sorry they've been the best team in the afc for the past decade or so and it's new dynasty team. if the browns would make it to the playoffs every year and get knocked off and watch the patriots win it all (again), i'd prob be bitching like you too. the fact is belichik and brady are first ballot HOFers and if people want to hate them, go ahead. but don't complain then when people hate on ben or hate on poly, cuz it's basically the same thing. fans of arch rivals hating on great players of their rivals. i don't like the off the field ben roethlisberger but i sure as hell respect what he does on the field and to people that just want to hate on him then i say "haters gotta hate." there are a lot of browns fans here who hate anything steelers, i'm not one of them. if the browns consistently finish last in the division, it's not the steelers fault.

so..........

@miktoxic said:

yeah maybe you should all stfu about cheaters cuz you all sound foolish as hell.

Including those haters that single out the Steelers of the 70's for steroid use, right Mickey?

Especially foolish sounding as hell because they were legal.

yeah maybe you should all stfu about cheaters cuz you all sound foolish as hell.

@miktoxic said:

well you never have to worry about anyone from pittsburgh being 'the face of the franchise" lols.

the biggest scumbag org. to ever suit up in any sport. from the irish mobster owner down to the big headed ape playing QB. roids and back-room shenanigans.

ah, the nfl must be so proud!

You sound like a bitter and angry little man.

Pittsburgh is everything you wish the browns were.

I believe the Browns may make some noise and do well this year. Pettine is a good coach and they've got a good nucleus of players.

Hope that made you feel better.

@baconhound said:

Maybe Pittsburgh's Jesus has a better opinion

http://www.nj.com/super-bowl/index.ssf/2015/01/terry_bradshaw_super_bowl_mvp_after_called_dumb_says_patriots_cheating_scandal_will_fuel_tom_brady.html

Terry isn't Pittsburgh Jesus. The Patriots have cheated several times and even without precedent Brady and the organization were both massive twats. If Brady didn't have anything to hide he would have handed over his phone. He deserves the four games and I'd say the same thing if it were Ben that was deflating footballs. Either way I hope that bitch plays week one.

Stuart said:

i always knew you were some homeless fag who wore a dress and beard.

@baconhound said:

Maybe Pittsburgh's Jesus has a better opinion

http://www.nj.com/super-bowl/index.ssf/2015/01/terry_bradshaw_super_bowl_mvp_after_called_dumb_says_patriots_cheating_scandal_will_fuel_tom_brady.html

For a second I thought you were referring to the real Jesus.

@vagitron said:

so let's relate the steroids epidemic to QBs who like balls deflated/inflated to a certain degree. then the league came down with the law and everyone knew the letter of the law.

all of a sudden last year without a warning the patriots get a fine/suspension when there was no real precedent. if the nfl thought this was a big deal then they should have halted things right then and there BEFORE the season to let everyone know that these footballs would be under scrutiny 24/7. as it was do you think their refs or 'ball inflation specialists' where even on the job before the colts got their panties in a bunch? GTFO.

all you whiners need to stfu cuz if it was your team to win any game under those circumstances and then have the nfl back step and say 'hey, you knew the rules and you tom brady are cheating'. it's already been hugely documented that all qbs like their footballs inflated to a certain level but can they go back and prosecute aaron rogers? how about roger staubach or terry bradshaw?

@vagitron said:

Maybe Pittsburgh's Jesus has a better opinion

http://www.nj.com/super-bowl/index.ssf/2015/01/terry_bradshaw_super_bowl_mvp_after_called_dumb_says_patriots_cheating_scandal_will_fuel_tom_brady.html

@miktoxic said:

well you never have to worry about anyone from pittsburgh being 'the face of the franchise" lols.

the biggest scumbag org. to ever suit up in any sport. from the irish mobster owner down to the big headed ape playing QB. roids and back-room shenanigans.

ah, the nfl must be so proud!

Let's say we talk about steroids in the 70's even though none of it has been stringently documented. Every other team in the league was also using steroids. It was relatively uncharted territory at that point in time and the league wasnt going after people about it. Beyond that the Rooney family is all that is right with NFL ownership and the organization as a whole the same. I understand your hate but its misguided. Tom Brady is a cheating mother fucker that deserves 4 games and then some imo. He cheated, the organization cheated and they have never won a championship that wasn't veiled in some sort of controversy. Defending any of them outside of being a delusioned pats fan is gutless.

@miktoxic said:

I'm afraid that we keep agreeing more and more

IMO since the dawn of football QBs have liked the ball overinflated, underinflated, scuffed, tacky, etc. I truly think Brady grabbed the balls and said "too much air, let some out" not "there seems to be .125psi too much in these balls, now I know the league will only allow .025 psi to be removed to be legal but fuck that I'm Tom Brady you take out the whole .125psi".

BTW for those living in the glass house if the Browns won the SuperBowl under any controversy we ALL would be backpeddling explain why it didn't matter.

And for the squealer fans, "fuck you too"

Stuart said:

Bus stop rat bag, ha ha charade you are.

You fucked up old hag, ha ha charade you are.

You house proud town mouse, ha ha charade you are.

why don't you get in your stuart little mouse car and go get your shine box.

the biggest scumbag org. to ever suit up in any sport. from the irish mobster owner down to the big headed ape playing QB. roids and back-room shenanigans.

ah, the nfl must be so proud!

@miktoxic said:

something that's been going on for years. i betcha joe namath like his balls a certain way too ( i know that doesn't sound right but....you know what i mean). what happened in the game that the colts reported this violation? uh, they took the so-called tampered balls out of the game and replaced them to nfl specs and the patriots came out with brady at the helm and commenced to kick the colt's asses. so i guess they won the right way.

this is all horseshit and anyone with half a brain knows it.

^ Agree, your post is all horseshit and anyone with half a brain knows it.

@miktoxic said:

something that's been going on for years. i betcha joe namath like his balls a certain way too ( i know that doesn't sound right but....you know what i mean). what happened in the game that the colts reported this violation? uh, they took the so-called tampered balls out of the game and replaced them to nfl specs and the patriots came out with brady at the helm and commenced to kick the colt's asses. so i guess they won the right way.

this is all horseshit and anyone with half a brain knows it.

I'm not claiming that Brady wins because of his balls. But cheating is cheating. Deflated balls, stick'em, videotaping practices, greasing runningbacks, playcall spying, all of it is cheating and all of it is for bitches. It's much more disrespectful to the game than smoking a little pot.

I'd rather whoop someone's ass straight up and look them in the eye knowing I'm better than them then have to cheat to win.

If you can't see that...well, I've lost hope that you have half a brain.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I believe the Patriots penalty should have been even harsher. They should have had their entire season vacated.

Smoking weed is being dumb. Deflating footballs is insulting the integrity of the game. If you cheat to win and get caught, you should pay the ultimate price. Not this bullshit slap on the wrist that Brady is getting and this bullshit draft pick violation to a team that has proven time and again they can win without high-marquee talent.

Vacate them of their wins. Sully their good name. Make an example out of them.

Same goes for Farmer, even though I like him a lot. Win the right way, or don't win at all.

200% in agreement.