Her co-teachers found out, and clamped down on that fast as hell.... or I would have had serious talks with some people, and they knew that. My Wifie just thought it was amusing, and politely annoyed her to the max. But I would

have been really po'd about that garbage. The union rep? Apologized very nicely. All this took place in one day

before I could have found out. Now, it's funny to remember that one.

And, note, Bob, I think the vast, vast majority of human beings in this country respect firemen.

It takes serious dedication, can be very dangerous, requires serious honor and dedication.

But how does a firemens' union strike, do a work stoppage, when the fire alarm rings at a families' home?

Surely that never happens. But barring the dumb hypothetical above, even firemen, working in a work place

environment, need protection from unfair labor practices, etc.

But when unions go all in for the dems permanently, those unions have no reason to bitch that they

can't get their way with republican legislators all the time.

But sometimes? unions lose their legitimacy, via their own self-perpetuating and greedy maneuvering

over the years. And sometimes, they go lefty because the lefties promise them more power in return

for their loyal donations and support. Then all the rest of the non-lefties in the union have no way

to not support the stupid stuff. Sure, they can communicate that. Talk about looking for trouble with

your own union.

The older union members see younger kids come in with college degrees, i.e. in education...

and they don't have a work ethic worth a damn. The old guys end up fixing the mistakes (out of

negligence)...and the young guys think it's a hoot if they can vote to go on strike for some small, dumbass

reason, because they laugh that they could use the extra vacation....

etc.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

So in other words, 'big, serious, trouble'.

@calfoxwc said:

@calfoxwc said:

Wait, Bob, Stop and think about that for a moment. Watergate was Nixon covering up for about 5 people.

That isn't "republicans".

And "hanging chads" ???? An R sign? LOL. Seriously? The hanging chads was a desperate attempt by Gore

to win the election by hook or crook. Hanging chads was the democrat invention to try to control the outcome

of the election.

And "right to work" hahahaha. sorry, Bob. RIGHT TO WORK is stopping the unions from having monopolistic

control and leverage over companies, and employees in said company, and even stopping them

from having total control and leverage of our own government, by federal unionized employees..

It gives them the FREEDOM to NOT BE CONTROLLED by a partisan union that can coerce membership in

said union, demand union dues from said coerced member, and use union dues any freakin partisan manner

the all powerful union sees fit.

come on, Bob. You can do better than that.

I don't think you will buy what I sell, but I'll try....

Right to Work is a way for the Rs to indirectly block funds the Ds for PACs.

The union member has ample opportunity to go to their union hall or union rep, and voice their displeasure with an issue or candidate being funded or endorsed. That's the democratic way, the way it's supposed to go. In a perfect world, these union meetings would have perfect attendance, but of course, they never do.

So the Rs want to sell a clever little catch phrase, "right to work," to a contingent of unhappy/disgruntled union members, encouraging them to abandon their union and free load off of the benefits, instead of actually encouraging discussion and participation in their own union meetings. It's "tampering" basically, by an outside party. It's not the way to do business.

The weird thing to me is this country was formed on organization in general. Some wish to do away with organization today, it's crazy. And yes, before you chastise, I do understand the radical views by some in unions rub many the wrong way, including me.

A bunch of small contributions from union members adds up to quite a lot. The way our political system is set up, unfortunately we have to play the game of PACs to get any voice. It sucks, but I'll be damned if I'm going to sit still and watch the anti-union folks extinguish some PAC contributions via legislation....that's a form of tyranny for goodness sake, and that's why you can see why me, and others like me, are against this RTW.

Here's a sample of my union dues, in case you wondered:

$56/month....$12 to IAFF, $12 to NOFF, $3 to a coffee kitty, $29 goes into our checking account directly, to pay for condiments, back little league baseball and football teams in town, our FF Scholarship we award every year to a graduating senior, general expenditures such as a Plain Dealer subscription, golf outings, general fund balance. The IAFF and NOFF may spend a portion of those monies on PACs, and yes, we are in communication if we are opposed.

FYI, we backed Voinovich for Governor years ago. It made sense, even though the majority of the RS aren't greatly concerned with issues surrounding firemen.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

I would take over as leader for life. I would appoint Oldbrownsfan Sec of Defense. Cal would be the Attorney General. WSS would be Sec of State. I would appoint GFT ambassador to Syria.

As long as you mandated that all cleveland sports teams were champions in perpetuity and had all the steelers executed I guess I could accept that

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LOL. That's funny....

That isn't "republicans".

And "hanging chads" ???? An R sign? LOL. Seriously? The hanging chads was a desperate attempt by Gore

to win the election by hook or crook. Hanging chads was the democrat invention to try to control the outcome

of the election.

And "right to work" hahahaha. sorry, Bob. RIGHT TO WORK is stopping the unions from having monopolistic

control and leverage over companies, and employees in said company, and even stopping them

from having total control and leverage of our own government, by federal unionized employees..

It gives them the FREEDOM to NOT BE CONTROLLED by a partisan union that can coerce membership in

said union, demand union dues from said coerced member, and use union dues any freakin partisan manner

the all powerful union sees fit.

come on, Bob. You can do better than that.

Stuart said:

The immigration issue is most certainly a threat to all Americans, and the Rs. No argument there at all.

We had/have Watergate, Hanging Chads, Right to Work. Those are R signs of wanting control as well.

@westside-steve said:

Democrats are the closest thing we have to socialism and as societies age socialism seems more appealing.

No kid ever asks his parents to lower his allowance.

WSS

And like kids the more they get, the more spoiled they become.

@bob806 said:

Lol...both party's want that sir. The Ds and Rs would like nothing better than to have total control.

Bullshit. The rhinos are democrat ass kissers sure, but the only control true Republicans and conservatives want right now is control over is the runaway socialism occurring in this country.

Sir.

No kid ever asks his parents to lower his allowance.

WSS

@bob806 said:

My concern is the democrats are close to getting their dream of one party control. When all the illegal immigrants become voters they will vote heavily democratic and we will have only democrat presidents no matter how lousy of a candidate the democrats run or how good the republican candidate is. There will no longer be enough independent voters to decide presidential elections.

Under Obama entitlements such as foodstamps have gone up dramatically and who will these people vote for? The party that wants to cut entitlement spending? I doubt it. I wouldn't care about the out of control entitlement spending if we were running a surplus but we aren't and everyone knows we cannot afford it and the national debt keeps growing.

Stuart said:

Lol...both party's want that sir. The Ds and Rs would like nothing better than to have total control.

I'd probably remove the 2nd, but that won't fly here. Chris

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"common sense gun control"

r-i-i-i-ight.

One fifth of the population of El Salvador now living in the U.S., Virginia turning blue. California already has a one party system.

This is one avenue by which Obama intends to "fundamentally transform America". I needs to be stopped and Trump is the only hope.

@westside-steve said:

(Save the country)

Overturn any decision of the Supreme Court and/or rewrite add or eliminate any of the constitutional amendments.

(Retroactively overturn the gay intrusion into real marriage - and if they get real angry, buy em a plane ticket to a country where that perversion is accepted), and overturn the obamaocare ruling, and any other

ruling that violates our Constitution. And make it a felony to actively criticize our Constitution and

work against it.

Destroy the nuclear reactors in Iran, North Korea, Russia, China or anywhere whenever you see fit,

and send that country's gold reserved to ME for distribution to all my friends and family.....

(given a magic twanger to make it happen.... those reactors would just go blinkie-blickie and disappear

from existence...save the world from WWIII...maybe)

@westside-steve said: