@gftchris said:

This is based on your years of research in to the subject?

WSS

@westside-steve said:

This is based on your years of research in to the subject?

And here. I've always thought second hand smoke hyperventilation was a hoax perpetrated on the public by trial lawyers and anyone else who stands to make billions from suing cigarette companies.

(I still don't like the smell of it but I'm not pretending it's dangerous)

WSS

@vaportrail said:

Maybe not the body grasshopper, but sure fucks up the mind.

@mld-woody said:

Huh, interesting.

I guess you'd want to look at how addictive it is, how harmful it is to your body, and how out of it you can get when on the drug (which might lead to you putting yourself in danger).

Good point.

Trust me dude, you can get way way out of it on acid.

WSS

I guess you'd want to look at how addictive it is, how harmful it is to your body, and how out of it you can get when on the drug (which might lead to you putting yourself in danger).

Good point.

@mld-woody said:

Also, heroin and LSD are completely different. They're much more dangerous and addictive.

WSS

@mld-woody said:

Actually, LSD is one of the pharmacologically safer drugs per a study from the Lancet, not really addictive and doesn't do much harm to the body.

Obviously, the potential for harm is there, but it's more from doing something stupid than from the physiological effects of the drug.

what the answer would be... lol

B. I don't remember if they even had a test back then. Maybe it was more about guilt

by association in the AF. That was the mid 70's,

C. I wonder if they can take the THC out of pot, and then make it legal, instead of

my probably dumb idea that they eventually develop THC into regular tobacco.

Things would be a mess if they did, I think. I think it will end up with people driving under the influence

of pot, because it isn't as easily tested.

I don't know, just thinkin.

@browns149 said:

As I stated before, I have never tested positive for second-hand smoke.

I play poker with guys that smoke weed all night long. I sit right next to them, across the table from them, And I get tested on a regular basis at work, for the past 5 years. Never once have I tested positive

If the guys in the Air Force tested positive, they were probably doing more then inhaling second-hand smoke IMO.

My thoughts exactly. I understand cal's concern, but to me it's very avoidable. My room mate got tested back in the day and he never tested positive after sitting in on unventilated smoking sessions.

I appreciate your concern but I don't see a strong enough argument to keep it illegal. The benefits outweigh the consequences.

I play poker with guys that smoke weed all night long. I sit right next to them, across the table from them, And I get tested on a regular basis at work, for the past 5 years. Never once have I tested positive

If the guys in the Air Force tested positive, they were probably doing more then inhaling second-hand smoke IMO.

Cigarettes have 2nd hand smoke, but no psychological effects.

Alcohol has psychological effects but no 2nd hand exposure.

This seems to be your reasoning.

You also seem to think that by walking into a room where someone is smoking, you'll automatically get high as fuck. I think you're overestimating the risk of 2nd hand effects.

Also, heroin and LSD are completely different. They're much more dangerous and addictive.

Hell, on the dangerous and addictive scale, weed rates under alcohol and cigarettes...

@calfoxwc said:

I am no Cheech or Chong but marijuana is a totally different animal than heroin or LSD. Marijuana can be used recreationally and 9 times out of 10 you end up with someone just being a slug on their couch. Heroin can get someone addicted upon first use to the point of changing their brain chemistry. LSD doesn't slow people down or make them relaxed. It can but it can also lead to people hallucinating about monsters and roaming around in traffic.

I have had to deal with many potheads. None of them were willing to go to the depths that heroin users were for a fix.

I agree with my great friend Canton Mike...

don't care what people smoke - regular tobacco..... But cigs and cigars are

not psychotropic.. So, as much as I don't

like those, they should not be illegal. Smoking them,

and drinking too much, have serious possible health

damaging affects.

The problem with the dumb idea of legalizing pot, is

A. That is is a psychotropic drug containing smoke leaf.

B. See above, and realize, that with the legalization of pot,

THC is also legalized.

C. See "B"... the technology exists now, that scientists working

for a tobacco company, could develop cigarettes and cigars tobacco....

with THC via gene splicing. I admit I'm talking out of my hat, I just think

it could be a possibility, okay?

I've never smoked in my life, except for a puff of a Winston Salem cigarette when I was

about the 4th grade. My cousin stole one from his parents, and lit it. Made me gag,

and I never smoked anything ever again.

But, with the legalization of pot, comes more turmoil than most folks will admit, I think.

Should we legalize heroine? lsd ? etc ?

I've never smoked grass & my thoughts on it now are the same as I stated when Army buddies would say, "It's no different than your beer".....I (and others) often drink A beer as a beverage, not to get high. In fact, even when I have had too much, getting drunk was NOT my original intent. Using recreational pot, getting high IS the sole intent. That's a big difference in my view. I just do not understand purposely getting to a point of acting stupid, whether it be via drugs or alcohol.

Mike

I was just arguing the principle of pot vs alcohol being different deals.

Too many people get locked into the idea that pot should be legal because

it's no problem to anybody else, like alcohol can be with drunk driving, etc.

I simply differentiated between the two based on second hand smoke.

I suppose you could drink a lot of St. John's Wort tea and get just as mellow

as smoking pot. lol.

The second hand smoke deal has caused problems, and has been shown to be

a legit possible problem for other people. Being legalized, it will become stronger

with legit research.

Besides, pot smoking contributes to man made global warning. You know we don't want THAT.

@calfoxwc said:

I hate it when I hit the wrong key and back out of a post and lose it all.

dammit.

I am not worried. None of our friends smoke, cept maybe one, and we never

go to her house.

and the point is... the principle of second hand smoke, with pot, and that you do not

have that occurence with alcohol, ever.

I am correct. It is quite possible. Google it yourself.

http://salem-news.com/articles/october092011/drug-testing-cannabis_bk.php

http://www.hightimes.com/read/can-second-hand-weed-smoke-cause-you-fail-drug-test

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25326203

Read the comments.

http://www.drugs.com/answers/can-second-hand-marijuanna-smoke-cause-you-to-357793.html

What are you worried about? No one would drug test you you're a retired farmer. In the time it took you to get lung cancer from second hand pot smoke you'll be dead anyway.