@mudfly said:

Yea, I think PFR probably grades him just based on what he does....not on what he fucks up.

@the-gipper said:

Based upon just his rushing #'s, I would agree......BUT, they(PFF) account for all phases and he was downgraded due to his poor pass receiving and slippery fingers......he led all RB's in dropped passes AND fumbles.....which cost him on his score....

@mudfly said:

I think Jeremy Hill should get a better ranking. He did after all gain 1124 yards rushing, score 9 TDs and catch 27 passes for 215 yards.

@the-gipper said:

And here is the PFF breakdown for the top 10 in the AFCN.....(at least those that played a min 25% of snaps)

1) J. Bitonio......22.4

2) C. Mosely....11.3

3) K. Williams....8.7

4) T. Gabriel......6.9

5) R. Hewitt.......4.1

6) M. Bryant......2.6

7) J. Urschell....1.6

C. Gilmore....1.4

9) J. Hill.............1.4

10)J. Gilbert......-2.8

So.....thats 4 Browns.......3 Baltiwhores.....and 2 Bunglers.....and 1 stool.....

And I think I like your list better.

FWIW....Here are the top 15 rookies, according to PFF......

1) K. Mack .........55.3

2) A. Donald.......34.4

3) J. Bitonio........22.4

4) Z. Martin.........21.6

5) C. Borland......20.8

6) O. Beckham...20.4

7) B. Linder........16.6

C. Mosely.......11.3

9) M. Evans........10.2

10)C. Linsley.......10.0

11)T. Jernigan.......8.9

12) K. Williams......8.7

13) J. Verrett.........8.1

14) J. Landry.........7.2

15) T. Gabriel........6.9

Some of the guys on that first list are actually listed as some of the worst rookies.....JaJuan James, Weston Richburg, Zach Fulton, Seantrell Henderson, Justin Britt, Bryan Stork, Benjiman and many others dont even rank.....

so there is obviously a huge disparity in opinion here.....

How can Kelvin Benjiman and Sammy Watkins possibly be rated ahead of Mike Evans???.....or Zach Martin have double Bitos score??.... thats pure insanity at its best....

@theolliec said:

I assume that is the "greater than" sign? I could never keep those straight. Yes, some here may think so. But apparently this statistic doesn't see it that way. It gave Martin double the score that Bito got. You would have to look at the methodology to figure out why the large discrepancy. I don't begin to tell you that understand it....especially for offensive linemen....who do not have the traditional skill player stats to go back on.

@mudfly said:

You have to pull up the 2014 draft, then click on the CarAV column. It will sort the entire draft class by that stat. And you can do that for any stat they list across the board. Example, it shows a column for rushing yards. Click it and the rookies will show up in order by yards gained rushing in their career (in this case, one year.) E.g. Jeremy Hill was tops in rushing with 1124, then Tre Maso with 765, then Andre Williams with 721, then Terence West with 673 etc.

It is interactive all across the board with those stats.

@mudfly said:

Its the PFR CA average.

I know you have your PFF source......by all means, show us what they say.

1. CJ Mosley Ravens

2. Jeremy Hill, Bengals

3. Russell Bodine, Bengals

4. Joel Bitonio, Browns

5. Christian Kirksey, Browns

6. Martavis Bryant, Steelers

7. Terence West, Browns

8. Lorenzo Taliaferro, Ravens

9. Stephon Tuitt, Steelers