@baconhound said:

Thank you Captain.

@baconhound said:

Mccown has had a long career to prove himself, he's a journeyman starting for the Cleveland Browns, enough said.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor???

You sir, said you've seen him once as a Brown... I call that a "rush to judgement".

@tour2ma said:

Mccown has had a long career to prove himself, he's a journeyman starting for the Cleveland Browns, enough said.

@tacosman said:

wait, are people in this thread actually expressing disappointment that mccown doesn't look very good? JESUS CHRIST. This is who mccown is. He is terrible. He has proven that for over a decade. He proved that for tampa a ton more last year. You guys actually need to see josh mccown stink it up in a meaningless preseason game to know how bad he is?

We know going into the season that we are going to be terrible at qb. That's done. set. all figured out. No point in talking about it anymore.

Well one thing I think we all agree on is you are a troll and an asshole.

WSS

@aggie-brown-fan said:

I have only had the pleasure of watching the Bills game but Mccown doesn't look like a guy who should be starting in the NFL

Actually could have been in the running for the 2015 T-shirt tag line...

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

As much as I used to hate that, I love it for this douchebag

@tacosman said:

wait, are people in this thread actually expressing disappointment that mccown doesn't look very good? JESUS CHRIST. This is who mccown is. He is terrible. He has proven that for over a decade. He proved that for tampa a ton more last year. You guys actually need to see josh mccown stink it up in a meaningless preseason game to know how bad he is?

We know going into the season that we are going to be terrible at qb. That's done. set. all figured out. No point in talking about it anymore.

He fuck your boyfriend?

@tacosman said:

Then shut the fuck up.

17-23

117 yards

2 td's

0 int

Oh. My.. God.

Worst ever.

We know going into the season that we are going to be terrible at qb. That's done. set. all figured out. No point in talking about it anymore.

2. Where is the below-average part of this team (besides qb)? Maybe receiver, but I think they are solid, esp. if Bowe can reach his potential. My point is the Browns are strong at all levels on defense. Way above average on o-line. Good at rb and te. McCown should feel no pressure to do too much, which he felt all last season with TB. If he plays the game manager role well, no game is UN-winnable.

3. Not only is the defense stout, but they look like they're gonna get lots of turnovers. They had their hands on several balls last night - Jameis easily could've had 3-4 picks.

4. Loved seeing Johnny with McCown on the sideline. You can just see the friendship they have and the easiness of their relationship. It's so much better than last season. I'm really hoping that it leads to a special season.

I know it's pre-season, but I'm excited about this team.

Did big Phil get on the field any snaps? If so, how did he hold up?

@wargograw said:

Archie Bunker's old fraternity - Sigma Phi Epsilon.

That being said and all things considered, we looked good in all 3 phases.

@wargograw said:

It looks to me like he won't be the pass rushing force he was at Washington (maybe he will if we really limit his snaps), but we drafted him to stop the run. Pass rushing was just gravy so if he can't do it at this level we probably still would have drafted him. Anyone else see the same?

Saw Shelton trotting to the sideline on a few passing down and distance situations. Saw big Phil doubled on one pass rush. Would expect the same, if Shelton is in there. Just opens rush lanes for others...

Those two are going to wear out the middle of a few O-lines this season.

@gumby73 said:

TB had 3 days to prepare. We had 10 days to prep, not that means anything in preseason but we finally start to see our formula to win some games with a tough schedule. Win games up front on offense and defensive lines, don't turn the ball over and create turnovers. Run the ball and run the Clock. Josh Mc Cown is showing this team he is one tough Bitch and has got his teammates on his side on both sides of the ball, but his pocket breaking down skills still is hard to watch and very troublesome. No wonder we dink and dunk and when that gets shut down we maybe screwed such as Hoyer was?

The prep time difference is a bit sobering, but I doubt we started prepping before Monday to create a "normal" week for the staff. It's their dress rehearsal as well...

Not too concerned about Josh's pocket presence. His general sense of security seemed very tied to his WR compliment for a given play. No better evidence than his "targets" of Bowe.