and weaknesses at other times.

It isn't like they botched the entire game from the gitgo.

Just had ? some cleaning up to do on communication.. and

Need Orchard and Cooper in there.

This is highly disturbing . . . Whitner, one of our Team leaders, is saying the D didn't play that bad against the Jets . . .

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Whitner-Sticking-To-The-Gameplan---918/e2877c78-f971-4a66-b4ee-68b49d6f282e

Major disconnect going on somewhere /smh

@douche-nozzle said:

What? I HAVE actually cut down on my posting here, considerably. Just like I said I would.

@oldbrownsfan said:

I'm not there yet!....another couple of weeks.

@trolling-for-dick said:

I didn't say I was going.....just that I would put the same effort here that they do at their jobs. The difference is that I do have a job that doing this takes time away from some.

Plus other interests.

Besides....you apparently don't know what a FRAK is.

A FRAK would say......I am frustrated at the Browns for losing......I am going to go be a fan of Team X and root for them.

What I am saying is that I am obviously still a Browns fan......and always will be. Its just a matter of equal effort and preparedness.

I am prepared to pound your silly stupid ass into the ground. You just may not have to eat dirt quite as often.

You should consider yourself lucky.

@the-gipper said:

Which means you won't see me much on here for a while. I have some vacations coming up....so I think I will concentrate on those....and trying to get some work done.

Safe travels, Gip...

@miktoxic said:

there's gotta be something in texas that you can root for....

let me think for a sec....

what horribly unnatural fake tits!! yummmm!!

...and is that a tiny penis creeping out above her shorts button? jeesh...

they sure do make em BIG in Texas though, in all shapes and grosses.

you can do better mik my Goddd.

@bob806 said:

Yeah, my dad and I are in a similar position to you and your children. Somehow or another my other brothers got away from rooting for the Browns so it's just and him keeping the faith. As I said though, I'll never stop being a Browns fan and will always be interested in how they are doing, watching as much as I can etc. But as each year goes on it's just something I take less seriously. I enjoy talking football (why I'm here) and all my friends talk to me because I'm the only Browns fan they know haha. But it's just something I'm finally turning the corner of "it is what it is" instead of being pissed off. I honestly can't imagine what it would be like to have this attitude 30 years from now but we'll see.

let me think for a sec....

At least you have a bunch from OSU.

@tobalaz said:

fucking hilarious!!!

hey, without alcohol and illicit drugs i would have hung myself long ago (really?). being a browns fan is tough. (seeing michael douglas speech from 'the president' rolling through my mind)

even when they lose you always have the fact you can root against the teams you despise. like right now i'm yelling at chip kelly to take it up his ass.....

hopefully pettine will get the rugs swept and the table cleaned off before next sunday's tits game. can't let the rookie come in here and embarrass us.

@the-gipper said:

Oh my goodness. The leader of the anti-FRAK we're the best fans in the world because we don't fly by night with our fandom has called a timeout. How hypocritical of you. You better buck up camper. The season ain't over and I'm not done whooping that ass. Besides, it's not a good look man. Although as humble as you are you probably don't consider me a worthwhile adversary, I do like our banter. If you go away I'll be sad. Plus, after years of bragging about your fans and how loyal they are, it would seem inappropriate that the most vocal of the bunch tucks tail in frustration. Don't go, please don't go.

Also part of the reason I don't dig up as much info and post on here as I used too.

Still a Fan and always will be, but we've still got issues on this Team and their lack of Heart.

And Haslam has not started out well. It could turn around for him....but it is not looking good so far.

@jrb12711 said:

I'm 52 and keep letting the Browns kill me slowly. Two of my sons live away from here (Houston, Phoenix) and go to Browns Backer bars- I'm thinking they are just like you, wondering why they keep the faith (they are 28 & 26).

In my fandom (1970-present), the Browns have only had a few "runs of success." Teams like Denver, Pittsburgh, & Dallas have basically been contenders my whole fandom, and it's hard to understand why the Browns can't get out of their own way. When you watch other expansion teams come in and kick your ass, like Carolina and Jacksonville, it's even more of a downer. Yesterday sucked almost as bad as when Marty out-coached the Browns away from a couple Super Bowls.

I'm sticking with it, 45+ years and counting. I'll be down there Sunday, but it looks like the tailgates will be better than the game again.

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@gumby73 said:

Oh, I am still here and will be here and there....just frustration. Like I said....I will give the same effort here as the Browns give....which means very little.

I do plan to participate on the big tailgate activities this week.

@chicopee-john said:

Not this fall. Utah and Texas. But I don't actually go for like 3 weeks.

@the-gipper said:

Let me know if you're going to be in the CT / NE area, Gip.

I will be a Browns fan till the day I die and love watching football but there's no point in keepin on that way until they turn the corner. I'm sitting at 25 years old and I've literally seen 2 years of football that were worth a crap.

@the-gipper said:

I am going to start to put as much time and effort into commenting on this board as the Browns apparently do planning for their games.

Which means you won't see me much on here for a while. I have some vacations coming up....so I think I will concentrate on those....and trying to get some work done.

Bud I understand.

I had to take a season of 2 years back and get the depression out of my system. Spent the days building Android roms and playing Payday 2 online.

Sometimes we just hit that point we can't take anymore because we've been making the same mistakes for 15 seasons and its like watching your idiot son constantly putting their car in reverse and backing into your front room every time they get in the car.