@dawg2fan said:

just want the browns counted on. a vet who needs time to improve.

@hoorta said:

Cut that POS and take the money loss.

@dawg2fan said:

Dwane Bowe- zero catches today. Was he even on the field? Hoorta (not so bold prediction) one of the biggest wastes of $9 million in the history of the NFL.

EDIT: I was in transit coming back from the game- learned he was in for 8 snaps, one target. I did get WKNR for a couple of hours on the drive home today- and I agree with their assessment. If Bowe doesn't show anything by say week eight, Mr. Farmer, admit it was a major screw up, and send him packing just like Ben Tate. No sense wasting a roster spot on non production. Benjamin is demonstrating what you expect out of a guy when you pay him that much cash. BTW, Benji earned himself a nice raise next year with that performance.

@mudfly said:

yep.....he played only 8 snaps and was targeted once(bad throw)......

and I completely missed every one... not that there was apparently much to see.

VesnaKociper said:

They need to get Mr. Bibbs active....and they may have what you want......a golden boy receiver!

@mudfly said:

Well, that's good. Hopefully, he will improve over the next few weeks. We need him and Hartline out there and at least one TE. If Dray or Barnidge can't get it done, hopefully Bibbs will be back. Obviously, our D is ok as is. But we have a few things on O that needs improvement. Especially with the schedule getting tougher starting with SD.

@jafbf said:

yep.....he played only 8 snaps and was targeted once(bad throw)......

@dawg2fan said:

Yeah, I saw Bowe out there - he either didn't pull it in or the Pass was off, don't remember right off, but he was targeted at least once.

@tour2ma said:

Sometimes it bounces your way.....sometimes it doesnt......

Could've (easily) gotten ugly....but it didnt(this week).....

Johnny has to correct that fumblitis thing......soon.....

@dawg2fan said:

However, we need another receiver to step up (other than Benji). Still don't know if Bowe was even out there, but with his size, well we will see.

Yep.....Hartline is invisible so far....do we even have a TE?....and wasn't Duke supposed to be a threat out of the backfield?.....

More to come later......(I hope).......Flip has not impressed me so far......my grade for him is an "eh"

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Sounds like what Tour is trying to say is you have to look at more than just the QB position. Football is the "consummate" team sport. Which means all phases should be taken into consideration. Our D was horrible in game 1 and we wont even talk about our O. We improved on both this weekend. If we go into next week playing the same way, we should be good. However, we need another receiver to step up (other than Benji). Still don't know if Bowe was even out there, but with his size, well we will see.

@mudfly said:

You did well Mudfly. Nailed it.

@mudfly said:

And there it is.....

In the famous words of Dennis Green......""the Browns are who we thought they were!!!!!!....""

.....told ya.....

@ibleedbrown said:

Ball security is kinda a big deal in this game. Just sayin.

So are touchdowns.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

No man, you licked that off cum sucker

He licked Johnny's jizz off of your chin?

So not only are you blowing dong, you're kissing on the mouth too?

Today the ball was put on the ground 6 tines and we jumped on 5 of them...

Today was a good day...

@calfoxwc said:

OTH, quibbling about Johnny's ball security.... and nobody mentions Mariotta's ball security.

Same thing with "pocket awareness".... "Johnny needs to improve his pocket awareness"... sure. So the hell does Mariotta. I mean, seriously.

Now that McCown has learned body security..... I think he will start next week.

The Browns kicked ass today. It will depend on the matchups to see how many times

that happens this season. There was no "sleepwalking" for one second in this game.

All that and you end with start McCown??? Agree with a lot you said, cal.

I think a perspective to add is what a difference a week can make in the NFL.

Today had a lot of the qualities of TN's opener vs. the Bucs. Excepting today MM was in the role of Winston (behind early, little run support, getting pressured) and JM was in the role of MM (early lead, running game working, D getting after the opponent).

And today Winton won as well...

And you are correct... the failed QB sneak was at the 19.

and nobody mentions Mariotta's ball security.

Same thing with "pocket awareness"....

"Johnny needs to improve his pocket awareness"...

sure. So the hell does Mariotta. I mean, seriously.

And were it not for a few penalties that hurt the Browns,

(edit - good calls, btw).. I hate the hands to the face... "#92"

the game would have been more in favor of the Browns.

Even if the Browns had gone for the FG, instead of try for the first down?

They failed, but what the heck - they were playing aggressive for the win.

I have to go back and look, but I think they had the easy distance for the FG.

And bashing Danny Shelton ??? How can anybody seriously do that?

That's just stupid. I looked for big improvement over last week, most of us

non-whiners did - and next week, same thing. The Browns now have the talent

to come into their own as the season progresses.

BTW, Merrill Hoge, and sissy Brady Quinn, who bashed Johnny...well,

the best way to show them to be the assholes that they are...was to

play and prove them wrong. He took a huge step today.

And all those "experts" who were in awe of Mariotta superstar...

they were probably feeling like morons during the entire first half,

and sometimes later in the game. Sure, he's a rookie, and Johnny

isn't all that far removed from being a rookie, too.

If Joe Haden was 6' 3"... he would be the greatest of all time. Tough

to lose on the TD to a big guy on the move who can really jump.

Now that McCown has learned body security..... I think he will start next week.

The Browns kicked ass today. It will depend on the matchups to see how many times

that happens this season. There was no "sleepwalking" for one second in this game.

@slimdawg said:

Im with ya, i think johnny ran the offense pretty well after having a full week of prep as the guy. They seemed to respond to him pretty well and i think the play calling will ramp up as the season moves along. Im on the brink as far as Manziel/McCown though, i think the coaches/team have just a little more confidence with McCown but Johnny certainly didnt hurt himself today. I know he should probably eat sleep and shit with a football in his hand this week, those fumbles coulda easily came back to haunt us today. Great win though!

This is how I feel also!!! GO BROWNS!!!

@ibleedbrown said:

Yo mama so fat, Johnny drank a 5th of tequila doing a body shot off her.

In all seriousness, no major complaints for the qb this game. Ball security maybe. I'll flow with the team's decision, but still kinda think l'd like to see what McCown can do.

Im with ya, i think johnny ran the offense pretty well after having a full week of prep as the guy. They seemed to respond to him pretty well and i think the play calling will ramp up as the season moves along. Im on the brink as far as Manziel/McCown though, i think the coaches/team have just a little more confidence with McCown but Johnny certainly didnt hurt himself today. I know he should probably eat sleep and shit with a football in his hand this week, those fumbles coulda easily came back to haunt us today. Great win though!

@diehardbrownsfan said:

No man, you licked that off cum sucker

Does this count as an admission??

@tour2ma said:

Gotta give our 2nd-year, rookie QB a game ball.

Id say this sentence is a loud atta boy for JFF, calm down

@tour2ma said:

Aw man... and we were right on the brink of a yo' mama fest...

Yo mama so fat, Johnny drank a 5th of tequila doing a body shot off her.

In all seriousness, no major complaints for the qb this game. Ball security maybe. I'll flow with the team's decision, but still kinda think l'd like to see what McCown can do.

@comeonman said:

Oooooh. The Browns Board QB battle heating up. Let's lay off each other and enjoy the win guys

Aw man... and we were right on the brink of a yo' mama fest...