@wargograw said:

Colorado has a fine stadium.....I mean, any stadium featured in the intro to Mork and Mindy must be a fine place, no?

Seriously....I don't think you were listening. Colorado does have that potential...with the right coach. It proved it could be a premier program when McCarthy was running it. And, again, it may be a lifestyle choice. All things being equal....I would rather be in Boulder than in any of those other SEC places you mention. And Kelly has familiarity with the Pac12 and that could be a factor.

If you are saying that Kelly would strictly go to a place for the money....and that those other places would probably pay more than Colo. at the outset....then I cannot tell if that is the case. But somehow I don't think so. He is a bachelor....no family to support. He certainly has all the money he needs for himself....and he would have plenty if he went to Colo. It is more of an ego thing with him surely Shirley. It is one of the reasons he went to the NFL. I think he would want the ego boost of elevating a somewhat "down" program that has potential. (of course, in this regard...it could be one of the reasons he could look to Texas. LSU won't be a factor even though you listed it twice....ggghuh. LSU will win the SEC and play in the College Playoff.....just a little prediction. Their coach won't be going anywhere. The TUN job is taken.

@wargograw said:

Show of hands who thinks Colorado has the goods to be as good a program over the course of an entire coaching tenure as Auburn, LSU, Arkansas, Texas, and LSU? Anyone (besides Gipper)?

How long does the NCAA continue to test for THC?

@columbusking said:

And just like that Kiko is out for this weekend against the Jets, a "partially torn" ACL

Rough.

Kelly's boosters paid (and they still do at Oregon) recruits like crazy. Built a premier stadium, premier facilities, and put them on the map with the Nike partnership.

Alonso vs. Lee... ESPY Finalists for MIP-ILB... most injury prone...

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Kiko was a strong addition. He's a solid coverage backer, he's cerebral, and he's athletic enough to make plays in the backfield when needed, and he's versatile. He is talented enough to play in any scheme. If one gameplan calls for him to be in coverage more, then the next week he's called on to blitz more, he's capable of doing either without being too much of a hindrance.

And just like that Kiko is out for this weekend against the Jets, a "partially torn" ACL

@miktoxic said:

That's the rapid fire reaction to it, sure.

But, as I said before, it makes more sense when you actually think about those players skill sets and what Kelly seems to be trying to implement in Philly.

If you say "read option" "spread" "speed" or any combination of the three - you're wrong...but also right.

@miktoxic said:

but you WILL be mr. know it all.

Just had a Rocky & Bullwinkle flashback...

and a qb we'd be sweating right now.

@miktoxic said:

I mean, yeah...I might be. It's just too early to tell. You could also be paying me, because he's still better than pretty much anything we've had to this point, save for a coach or two.

An increase in offensive line production may be the catalyst that pushes that scoring machine over the top, or it could be their achilles heel. Regardless, letting (arguably) their two OL go and doing essentially nothing to replace them is Chip's biggest mistake. Not Bradford, not Murray, not Kiko.

@wargograw said:

Colorado can be....has been as good as those programs. (and...by the way....do not put Arkansas in with the rest of those).

And you missed the point I made that Kelly may want the Pac12 or the Big Ten.....I think he would prefer that. Plus I think he might like the challenge of taking a program that was pretty much nothing and turning it into something....the way he did with Oregon.

My thinking is not 3 decades old....it is about 3 years ahead of its time.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Then again, one factor is that perhaps the rest of the league has caught up with Kelly's "gimmick". Sometimes new schemes and offensive designs come along and do well because the defenses haven't caught up with them. But, eventually they do catch up.

How many Run n Shoot offenses are there in the league now? Or other certain specialty offenses.

I mean....the WCO won several Super Bowls.......but then the Browns under Pat Shurmur ran the WCO as well.

So, maybe the rest of the league is simply catching on to Kelly's schtick.

And maybe the talent he has doesn't fit it....or just sucks.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

but you WILL be mr. know it all.

how long is mr. flanders gonna let the chip kelly 'rip apart my team' experiment go on? those philly fans will rip that stadium apart. hell wear a redskins, cowboys or giants jersey down there and you'll be lucky to leave with your two front wooden teeth still in your mouth, mr.south.

which is suddenly broken.....(very)....(???)

Bradford not looking great either.....glad we didnt mortgage the future for him.......

@bbedward said:

I'm seeing a Butch Davis scenario unfolding in Philly. MHO- unwise to give your HC unlimited roster control. You can count the ones who have successfully done so on one hand.

Oh- and TCPO- when Bradford gets hurt again- and the betting odds are he will, that's Sanchez and our pal Thad Lewis waiting in the wings.

Even the in the unlikely event should Sam I Am manage to stay upright this year- care to comment on their stellar WR corpse? And I do mean corpse. I seriously doubt anyone outside a fanatic Fantasy guru- anyone here could even name one of the Iggles wide receivers without looking. (I couldn't) Those stats are pretty pathetic. You could make a solid case the Browns group- which is widely bashed as the worst in the NFL is better.

BTW, they're dead last in rushing. Seven net yards against Dallas, and nine of the positive yards were by Bradford. Beyond embarrassing for an NFL team. We'd be having conniption fits here if a Browns team ever posted a mega piss-poor effort like that.

What surprised me is how much Chip turned over his D and how much he spent there.

At any rate that crowded Kelly bandwagon I predicted still has plenty of good seats available...

@wargograw said:

All accurate. But you can't just concede 3 losses while the OL gels and you had to know that would happen when you get rid of both guards and don't pull the trigger on one until late summer.

Looking at that schedule going into the season, Kelly probably felt there would be a decent chance of going 2-2 or even 3-1 though the first four games - Atlanta finished dead last in defense last year, Washington finished 20th and NY, on paper, looked to be a steaming pile of question marks on offense.

The Atlanta defeat was likely unexpected, but the Dallas one not so much. Plus, I'm sure Chip expected Bradford to be more accurate and for his WR's to have less drops.

All goes to show...you can't plan shit in the NFL.

@wargograw said:

So explain away letting the two stud OL walk?

You gotta think he felt the talent deficit wasn't greater than the money they were saving. Herremans and Mathis counted for like 13 million combined against the cap this year, while Barbre and Gardner count for only about three.

Even with the dead money they have to pay, they're still saving a significant amount. Not that its a solid excuse, but he must have seen enough in the (relatively) younger guys to warrant the move. As we saw last year, there's always problems jelling with new OL, regardless of how long they've been in the league. I'd say four-five games should be the full amount of time for them to get it...if they don't get it past then, they just won't.

And, to be fair, the pass pro hasn't been bad. It's been the run blocking.

@the-gipper said:

One of these places may be saying Hello to Chip Kelley next year:

Colorado

Illinois

Maryland

Purdue

Syracuse

Also an SEC is possible. They put more emphasis on their football programs than academics...unlike the above schools...and may have more money to give Kelly.

But Kelly may like the Pac12...and that is why Colorado....a once strong program looking for new identity could go for him.

More proof your college analysis is about 3 decades too old. Kelly will have a top flight college job waiting for him. Not freaking Colorado.

Auburn

Texas

Arkansas

LSU (it was thought prior to Saturday Miles was on the hot seat)

Penn Statep