<![CDATA[The Browns need a new DC and maybe OL coach.]]>Sorry....but I see talent all over the field on this defense.......and yet they are absurdly underachieving.

That's coaching to me. While I think Pettine is a good defensive head coach....his DC needs to be replaced, especially if they continue to play the way that they have so far.

Is embarrassing that the wealth of talent they have plays this poorly.

And then there is the offensive line coaching. Three Pro Bowlers in the OL.....and they gain what? 40 yards on the ground. Again, epic underachievement.

Are they the problem? Or is it Crowell. Johnson, etc.

They got rid of Terrence West. Was he any worse than what we have?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/topic/38148/the-browns-need-a-new-dc-and-maybe-ol-coach.RSS for NodeThu, 01 Oct 2026 22:42:48 GMTMon, 28 Sep 2015 21:12:04 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to The Browns need a new DC and maybe OL coach. on Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:50:53 GMT]]>Yes...Bito had a great rookie season....but wasnt selected for the Pro Bowl.....and, yes, I think he had a top 5 grade, iirc

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@mudfly said:

No....

But I thought per your PFF reports that Bito graded out in like the Top 5 of all OGs in the league, didn't he?

Kind of....it's George DeLeone, Asst OL coach....acting as interim coach...

Another problem leading to the ineptness.

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@the-gipper said:

Didn't Bito make the Pro Bowl last year as a rookie? (or at least alternate) I thought he did. He has Pro Bowl talent.

No....

@westside-steve said:

As for the OP we don't have an OL coach now right?

WSS

Kind of....it's George DeLeone, Asst OL coach....acting as interim coach...

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/534785https://brownsboard.com/post/534785Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:39:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Browns need a new DC and maybe OL coach. on Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:28:19 GMT]]>As for the OP we don't have an OL coach now right?

WSS

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@wargograw said:

Yes they are. That's crazy.

Also, when did we get a third Pro Bowler on the OL?

Didn't Bito make the Pro Bowl last year as a rookie? (or at least alternate) I thought he did. He has Pro Bowl talent.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/534765https://brownsboard.com/post/534765Tue, 29 Sep 2015 13:59:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Browns need a new DC and maybe OL coach. on Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:42:16 GMT]]>Yes they are. That's crazy.

Also, when did we get a third Pro Bowler on the OL?

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@richiswhere said:

In 2012 Pettine as DC for the Jets had the 26 ranked rushed defense. The next season without Pettine they are the number 3 ranked rush defense.

In 2013 Pettine as DC for the Bills has the 28th ranked rush defense. The next season without Pettine they are the number 11 ranked rush defense. Also the Browns played and beat the Bills that year. It was the game where Hoyer got hurt and Weeden came in and lead us to victory. Also was Willis Mcgahee high game for rushing yard that year.

In 2014 Pettine as HC for the Browns had the 32 ranked rush defense. In 2013 with Horton as DC for the Browns we were the 18 ranked rush defense.

Do I really need to tell you where we are ranked in rush defense in 2015?

ASSuming all of your stats are correct (nothing against you, just sayin') those numbers are telling....... and I don't care for the story.

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@opal312 said:

Pettine should be the defensive coordinator. We need an offensive coordinator also. Trouble is there's nothing you can do right now. The Coaches need to regroup and change the defense. Does,anybody think we should go back to the 4-3?

In 2012 Pettine as DC for the Jets had the 26 ranked rushed defense. The next season without Pettine they are the number 3 ranked rush defense.

In 2013 Pettine as DC for the Bills has the 28th ranked rush defense. The next season without Pettine they are the number 11 ranked rush defense. Also the Browns played and beat the Bills that year. It was the game where Hoyer got hurt and Weeden came in and lead us to victory. Also was Willis Mcgahee high game for rushing yard that year.

In 2014 Pettine as HC for the Browns had the 32 ranked rush defense. In 2013 with Horton as DC for the Browns we were the 18 ranked rush defense.

Do I really need to tell you where we are ranked in rush defense in 2015?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/534620https://brownsboard.com/post/534620Mon, 28 Sep 2015 22:58:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Browns need a new DC and maybe OL coach. on Mon, 28 Sep 2015 21:54:03 GMT]]>Then this is fixable.

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@opal312 said:

Pettine should be the defensive coordinator. We need an offensive coordinator also. Trouble is there's nothing you can do right now. The Coaches need to regroup and change the defense. Does,anybody think we should go back to the 4-3?

Yes because we dont have 34 LBer's

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/534589https://brownsboard.com/post/534589Mon, 28 Sep 2015 21:35:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Browns need a new DC and maybe OL coach. on Mon, 28 Sep 2015 21:32:45 GMT]]>Pettine should be the defensive coordinator. We need an offensive coordinator also. Trouble is there's nothing you can do right now. The Coaches need to regroup and change the defense. Does,anybody think we should go back to the 4-3?

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@the-gipper said:

Sorry....but I see talent all over the field on this defense.......and yet they are absurdly underachieving.

That's coaching to me. While I think Pettine is a good defensive head coach....his DC needs to be replaced, especially if they continue to play the way that they have so far.

Is embarrassing that the wealth of talent they have plays this poorly.

And then there is the offensive line coaching. Three Pro Bowlers in the OL.....and they gain what? 40 yards on the ground. Again, epic underachievement.

Are they the problem? Or is it Crowell. Johnson, etc.

They got rid of Terrence West. Was he any worse than what we have?

The enigma that is the Browns.. I understand Terrence West wasn't Jim Brown.. He didn't need to be.. I'm just shocked they traded him after being so high on him last season. When I watch O'Neil's press conferences , I just see a soft man standing at the podium.. He's getting out coached week in and week out. The O line maybe a byproduct of the drama that surrounds Andy Moeller. But by the same token. These are grown men.. As for Alex Mack. He may still not be 100% back from his injury.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/534584https://brownsboard.com/post/534584Mon, 28 Sep 2015 21:23:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The Browns need a new DC and maybe OL coach. on Mon, 28 Sep 2015 21:25:29 GMT]]>The biggest thing I took away with from yesterday was : Our defensive gameplan was awful.

It was like we never saw film of this team. Had no idea how to get to Carr. Didn't know Amari Cooper was on the roster.

The entire first half and most of the second was just one WTF moment for me. Can't express how disappointed I was in the defense, and i think the fault lies more toward the planning rather than the execution. Although that wasn't good either.

Zombo

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