<![CDATA[Why does it feel like Goodell and the Patriots are running the NFL?]]>I've been watching football since the 80's and have always felt like the league was mostly legit. Now I'm starting to feel like a rube who believes wrestling is real.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/topic/38337/why-does-it-feel-like-goodell-and-the-patriots-are-running-the-nflRSS for NodeFri, 02 Oct 2026 13:54:47 GMTTue, 20 Oct 2015 05:01:21 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Why does it feel like Goodell and the Patriots are running the NFL? on Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:55:02 GMT]]>.Goodell and Kraft are great friends.

The NFL IS ANTI-trust just like the WWE.

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@miktoxic said:

so mark me down as #5 on this board that agrees that the pats are a true dynasty.

kraft, brady, belichick. first ballot HOFers guaranteed.

fuck this cheating crap. you could call holding on every play of the game. the DBs are getting killed by these new rules and we're worried about deflategate or spycam?

how about hiring a head coach and staff, staying with them for more than 3 years and seeing where that leads?

oh and btw, who was smart enough to hire a fired head coach and the brown's HOF TE as GM. that's right kraft.

#6

If the Browns had the track record of the Pats the last 15 years most here, including me, would be unbearable apologists and staunch supporters of the dynasty.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/540524https://brownsboard.com/post/540524Wed, 21 Oct 2015 22:19:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Why does it feel like Goodell and the Patriots are running the NFL? on Wed, 21 Oct 2015 21:13:03 GMT]]>All I remember about the Patriots & Their Refs(I quit watching cheaters). In our last meeting, we got screwed by their Mass. home officials/Goodell. And we broke Gronks leg (opssie sure we got fined). Still playing with a limp? or is that a Roger approved knee brace?

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@the-gipper said:

In the words of Chris Tucker: DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH?

HE QUIT

Hahahaha....NO!...

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@mudfly said:

Like I said...semantics.....

The Pats wanted Billy....the Jets had his rights....the Pats gave the Jets a first round pick.....for Billy.....end of story.

In the words of Chris Tucker: DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH?

HE QUIT

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/540371https://brownsboard.com/post/540371Wed, 21 Oct 2015 15:51:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Why does it feel like Goodell and the Patriots are running the NFL? on Wed, 21 Oct 2015 15:28:49 GMT]]>Only question is were the Jets and pats in conversation before the "resignation" or did the Pats see an opportunity after the fact.

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@mudfly said:

Like I said...semantics.....

The Pats wanted Billy....the Jets had his rights....the Pats gave the Jets a first round pick.....for Billy.....end of story.

Its not really semantics. You said he didn't quit. The video clearly shows him saying he's resigning as the coach of the Jets (after 1 day). The Jets were able to prevent him from coaching anywhere else, so the Patriots had to give up compensation in order for him to be released from the Jets control since he had a contract with them.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/540363https://brownsboard.com/post/540363Wed, 21 Oct 2015 15:28:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Why does it feel like Goodell and the Patriots are running the NFL? on Wed, 21 Oct 2015 15:02:15 GMT]]>Like I said...semantics.....

The Pats wanted Billy....the Jets had his rights....the Pats gave the Jets a first round pick.....for Billy.....end of story.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/540354https://brownsboard.com/post/540354Wed, 21 Oct 2015 15:02:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Why does it feel like Goodell and the Patriots are running the NFL? on Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:55:31 GMT]]>

@mudfly said:

semantics.....Pats gave up a first round pick to the Jets.....for????.......Billy Boy....

Not semantics. BB quit....as we said. The thing though was, even though he resigned, the Jets still had his contract rights. Though he could not be forced to be the HC of the NYJ.....he couldn't be the HC of any other team while the Jets held his rights.....until and unless that other team, in the case the Pats, gave compensation to the Jets to allow BB out of their contract with them.

The Jets extracted a first round pick to allow BB to sign with the Pats.

In researching it I found this:

The first round pick acquired by the Jets was used to trade up by the Jets with San Fran to take DE Shaun Ellis....who played 10 years with the Jets but ironically finished his career with New England.

The Pats pick was used by the 49ers and they took LB Julian Peterson our of Mich. St. He too played for like 10 years for the 49ers, Lions and Seahawks.

That pick....given by the Pats to the Jets in 2000 was #16 overall pick......but don't cry for Argentina Patriots. They took another guy that year with #199 that has turned out to be pretty good.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/540352https://brownsboard.com/post/540352Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:55:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Why does it feel like Goodell and the Patriots are running the NFL? on Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:39:25 GMT]]>semantics.....Pats gave up a first round pick to the Jets.....for????.......Billy Boy....

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@mudfly said:

Actually....he didnt quit....the Pats traded their first round pick to the Jets for him......

No, he definitely quit....I got video:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24753335/remember-when-bill-belichick-quit-as-hc-of-the-nyj-after-one-day

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@mudfly said:

Actually....he didnt quit....the Pats traded their first round pick to the Jets for him......

He resigned after one day to take the Patriots job.

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@mudfly said:

I think Im the only guy in the world who actually likes the Pats and admires their ability to win year after year after year....

In my eyes, the greatest dynasty ever......

I like the pats

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@the-gipper said:

@miktoxic said:

The Jets hired BB before the Pats.....but he quit after one day.

Actually....he didnt quit....the Pats traded their first round pick to the Jets for him......

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@jrb12711 said:

Bottom Line with the Patriots organization is they have a win at all costs mentality. Winning cultures breed winning while losing cultures breed losing (looking at you, Brownies). If starters go down for the Pats, it's expected their backups play at elite levels. They go into every game thinking they are going to win. There's a reason they could plug in a dude like Matt Cassell and go 11-5. This attitude won't change until ol' Bill steps down at the very least.

Bottom line is that the Patriots have Tom Brady. Everything else was superfluous. Sure, Cassell could hold the fort and do well for one year. I suggest that is they had to play him any more than that the Pats would have sunk into mediocrity.

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@miktoxic said:

so mark me down as #5 on this board that agrees that the pats are a true dynasty.

I don't think it was ever an issue that they are a true dynasty. Clearly they are. The issue was whether or not people hated them, or admired them.

kraft, brady, belichick. first ballot HOFers guaranteed.

TB, BB certainly. Kraft a little tougher call.

fuck this cheating crap. you could call holding on every play of the game. the DBs are getting killed by these new rules and we're worried about deflategate or spycam?

Many or most think they cheat. Many or most think they could win a lot without cheating. It is the hubris of them that begets scorn.

how about hiring a head coach and staff, staying with them for more than 3 years and seeing where that leads?

Does that include the DC? I agree with you except for keeping the Browns DC.

oh and btw, who was smart enough to hire a fired head coach and the brown's HOF TE as GM. that's right kraft.

The Jets hired BB before the Pats.....but he quit after one day.

And the last time I looked....Kraft did not own the Ravens.

(are you saying that Kraft did a Robert Irsay/Caroll Rosembloom type franchise trade?)

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/540339https://brownsboard.com/post/540339Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:28:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Why does it feel like Goodell and the Patriots are running the NFL? on Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:28:40 GMT]]>Bottom Line with the Patriots organization is they have a win at all costs mentality. Winning cultures breed winning while losing cultures breed losing (looking at you, Brownies). If starters go down for the Pats, it's expected their backups play at elite levels. They go into every game thinking they are going to win. There's a reason they could plug in a dude like Matt Cassell and go 11-5. This attitude won't change until ol' Bill steps down at the very least.

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@nickers said:

Um that was King Artie that hired Ozzie, dude...not Kraft...

oh, my bad. i forgot old fartie lived that long.

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@miktoxic said:

oh and btw, who was smart enough to hire a fired head coach and the brown's HOF TE as GM. that's right kraft.

Um that was King Artie that hired Ozzie, dude...not Kraft...

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/540285https://brownsboard.com/post/540285Wed, 21 Oct 2015 04:14:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Why does it feel like Goodell and the Patriots are running the NFL? on Wed, 21 Oct 2015 04:04:04 GMT]]>

@miktoxic said:

oh and btw, who was smart enough to hire... the brown's HOF TE as GM. that's right kraft.

Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/540284https://brownsboard.com/post/540284Wed, 21 Oct 2015 04:04:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Why does it feel like Goodell and the Patriots are running the NFL? on Wed, 21 Oct 2015 03:02:32 GMT]]>so mark me down as #5 on this board that agrees that the pats are a true dynasty.

kraft, brady, belichick. first ballot HOFers guaranteed.

fuck this cheating crap. you could call holding on every play of the game. the DBs are getting killed by these new rules and we're worried about deflategate or spycam?

how about hiring a head coach and staff, staying with them for more than 3 years and seeing where that leads?

oh and btw, who was smart enough to hire a fired head coach and the brown's HOF TE as GM. that's right kraft.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/540257https://brownsboard.com/post/540257Wed, 21 Oct 2015 03:02:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Why does it feel like Goodell and the Patriots are running the NFL? on Wed, 21 Oct 2015 01:53:45 GMT]]>

@cdl15 said:

Or its just jealousy

So tru!

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@wargograw said:

This is where I am. I'm a fan of most dynasties. USC last decade was my favorite.

Here is a thread from before you were on here about Certifiable Dynasties:

http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=20549&hl=%2Bcertified+%2Bdynasties&do=findComment&comment=251930

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@mudfly said:

I think Im the only guy in the world who actually likes the Pats and admires their ability to win year after year after year....

In my eyes, the greatest dynasty ever......

This is where I am. I'm a fan of most dynasties. USC last decade was my favorite.]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/540145https://brownsboard.com/post/540145Tue, 20 Oct 2015 20:32:25 GMT