I have to tip my hat to y'all. This is a serious quality thread. I've only been a fan of this franchise since they relocated to Arizona in '88, but consider myself well versed in their history... miserable as it mostly has been.

1. I heard the Kerry Collins stat on the radio the other day. Still find it surprising.

It is.....but they have had 2 certain HOFers.....Brady/Brees.....and maybe some day Wilson.

3. I didn't know Cards/Browns were ever in the same division.

For many years. Check out this link. 2 games a year from 1950 to 1969. The craziest game was the 33-33 tie in 1964.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/game_query.cgi?tm1=cle&tm2=crd&yr=all

4. Cards have a LONG list of terrible QB's during their time in AZ. D'Wreck Anderson is probably the most despised of the group.

Funny....he had 7/8ths of a really good season here....but in the last two game he became D'wreck....and has been that ever since.

However....the Cardinals have had some really good QBs in their history...maybe not HOF, but close: Charley Johnson who was a Browns killer. Jim Hart and Neil Lomax.

5. Tupa. :shakes head:

9. First I've heard that we're 4-0 at home in the playoffs... pathetic that that stretch covers 95 years.

12-B. I knew about Joe Namath. He's not the only 1st round QB pick the Cards have had to refuse to play for the team. Kelly Stouffer was picked in the first round and sat out the entire year. Cards eventually traded his rights to Seattle.

No loss there compared to Namath.

12-C. Letting Jamir Miller (among several other key contributors from our '98 playoff win over Dallas) was one of the worst mistakes our Front Office ever made. First playoff win since '47.

Great thread.

I have to tip my hat to y'all. This is a serious quality thread. I've only been a fan of this franchise since they relocated to Arizona in '88, but consider myself well versed in their history... miserable as it mostly has been.

Here is some trivia, most about our upcoming opponent:

Answers:

1. Who was the last QB from a current Big Ten school that was drafted in the first round?

Kerry Collins Penn St. 1995

2. What does this list represent: Southern Miss/Tennessee/Pitt/Purdue/Michigan/Stanford/Washington

Georgia/Miami/Washington St. ?

I thought this would be easier: These are the alma maters of the Top Ten in all time passing yards:

So. Miss=Favre, Tennessee=Peyton. Pitt=Marino. Purdue=Brees. Michigan=Brady. Stanford=Elway. Washington=Moon. Georgia=Tarkenton. Miami=Testaverde. Washington St.=Bledsoe

3. What is the Browns head to head record all time against the Cardinals?

(Note: Browns/Cards have never played a postseason game)

33-13-3. From like 1950 to 1970 the two were in the same division and played twice a year.

4. Which QBs that have lead the Browns in passing in a season have also lead the Cardinals in passing in a season?

Derek Anderson.....and Josh McCown....assuming he will be the Browns passing leader by the end of the season. Maybe not?

5. What player that lead the Cardinals in passing in a season lead the Browns in punting in a season?

Tom Tupa. Spent a year as Cards primary QB.

6. What Browns leading rusher had his dad lead the Cardinals in rushing for a season or two?

Eric Metcalf....dad Terry Metcalf who spent most of his career with the Cards.

7. Which franchise has won more games in its history, the Browns or the Cardinals?

The Cardinals (at the beginning of this year) won 528 games all time. The Browns won 469

But the Cards have lost 729 games....most of any NFL franchise. Browns lost 458

Cards are one of only two original NFL teams with Bears...and have been played 25-30 more seasons than the Browns.

8. How any NFL titles have the Cardinals franchise won since its inception in 1920?

Two, in 1925 (disputed as the Pottsville Maroons have an argument about that), and 1947

9. What unique distinction does the Cardinals franchise share with the Texans when it comes to postseason play?

In 95 years of play, the Cardinals have never lost a home playoff game. Of course, they have been so bad they have made the playoffs so few times. I believe in those 95 years....they have only hosted 4 postseason games....and are 4-0.

10. How did the Cardinals get their name?

They got them from the color of the uniforms that they borrowed from the University of Chicago. They were give faded maroon jerseys....which someone called being "Cardinal Red".....so they took the name Cardinals after that color and not after the bird. They adopted the bird logo only in like 1960 when they moved to St. Louis.

11. What teams did the Cardinals defeat on the way to their one undisputed NFL title?

They beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in a playoff game, then the Phil. Eagles in the NFL title game.

12.A. What 1946 Cardinals first round draft pick played most of his career with the Browns?

Dub Jones

B. Who was the Cardinals first round pick in 1965?

Joe Namath

C. What Cardinals first round draft pick in 1994 made the Pro Bowl for the Browns?

Jamir Miller

13. What is the only NFL franchise where the current owner(s) have owned the team longer than Cards owner has owned the Cards?

That would be the Green Bay Packers....who are not owned by a person but by the community.

Bill Bidwill, Cardinals owner....who is probably senile by now, has been the principal owner of the Cardinals since 1972. The Bidwill family is I believe the second or third oldest family group to own an NFL team.:

The Halas family and/ the Mara family may have a longer ownership.

The other longest held individual owners of NFL teams behind Bill Bidwill are:

Virginia McCaskey has been the Bears owner since 1983

Alex Spanos has owned the Chargers since 1984

Pat Bowlen has owned the Broncos since 1984

Tom Benson has owned the Saints since 1985

@the-gipper said:

Here is some trivia, most about our upcoming opponent:

5. What player that lead the Cardinals in passing in a season lead the Browns in punting in a season?

Dear Lord, a Tom Tupa sighting. Thought I'd successfully deleted that from my memory banks a decade ago.

Here is some trivia, most about our upcoming opponent:

5. What player that lead the Cardinals in passing in a season lead the Browns in punting in a season?

Dear Lord, a Tom Tupa sighting. Thought I'd successfully deleted that from my memory banks a decade ago.

It's called remembering history. I read stuff.

I'm also calling bullshit on anyone getting that exactly right without looking it up first.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess #2 is the colleges of the QBs that have beaten the cards in the playoffs, or something like that.

@bob806 said:

@the-gipper said:

Here is some trivia, most about our upcoming opponent:

3. What is the Browns head to head record all time against the Cardinals?

(Note: Browns/Cards have never played a postseason game)

33-13-3 Browns Check

@the-gipper said:

Here is some trivia, most about our upcoming opponent:

1. Who was the last QB from a current Big Ten school that was drafted in the first round?

2. What does this list represent: Southern Miss/Tennessee/Pitt/Purdue/Michigan/Stanford/Washington

Georgia/Miami/Washington St. ?

3. What is the Browns head to head record all time against the Cardinals?

(Note: Browns/Cards have never played a postseason game)

33-13-3 Browns Check

4. Which QBs that have lead the Browns in passing in a season have also lead the Cardinals in passing in a season?

Derrick Anderson, McCown Check

5. What player that lead the Cardinals in passing in a season lead the Browns in punting in a season?

Tupa Check

6. What Browns leading rusher had his dad lead the Cardinals in rushing for a season or two?

Eric Metcalf Check

7. Which franchise has won more games in its history, the Browns or the Cardinals?

Cardinals Check

8. How any NFL titles have the Cardinals franchise won since its inception in 1920?

2 Check

9. What unique distinction does the Cardinals franchise share with the Texans when it comes to postseason play?

Never lost a home playoff game Check

10. How did the Cardinals get their name?

11. What teams did the Cardinals defeat on the way to their one undisputed NFL title?

Philadelphia, Chicago Philly check, not Chicago (they WERE Chicago)

12.A. What 1946 Cardinals first round draft pick played most of his career with the Browns?

B. Who was the Cardinals first round pick in 1965?

Namath Check

C. What Cardinals first round draft pick in 1994 made the Pro Bowl for the Browns?

13. What is the only NFL franchise where the current owner(s) have owned the team longer than Cards owner has owned the Cards?

Here is some trivia, most about our upcoming opponent:

1. Who was the last QB from a current Big Ten school that was drafted in the first round?

2. What does this list represent: Southern Miss/Tennessee/Pitt/Purdue/Michigan/Stanford/Washington

Georgia/Miami/Washington St. ?

3. What is the Browns head to head record all time against the Cardinals?

(Note: Browns/Cards have never played a postseason game)

33-13-3 Browns

4. Which QBs that have lead the Browns in passing in a season have also lead the Cardinals in passing in a season?

Derrick Anderson, McCown

5. What player that lead the Cardinals in passing in a season lead the Browns in punting in a season?

Tupa

6. What Browns leading rusher had his dad lead the Cardinals in rushing for a season or two?

Eric Metcalf

7. Which franchise has won more games in its history, the Browns or the Cardinals?

Cardinals

8. How any NFL titles have the Cardinals franchise won since its inception in 1920?

2

9. What unique distinction does the Cardinals franchise share with the Texans when it comes to postseason play?

Never lost a home playoff game

10. How did the Cardinals get their name?

11. What teams did the Cardinals defeat on the way to their one undisputed NFL title?

Philadelphia, Chicago

12.A. What 1946 Cardinals first round draft pick played most of his career with the Browns?

B. Who was the Cardinals first round pick in 1965?

Namath

C. What Cardinals first round draft pick in 1994 made the Pro Bowl for the Browns?

13. What is the only NFL franchise where the current owner(s) have owned the team longer than Cards owner has owned the Cards?

Ya after yesterday, fuck the upcoming games, we looked like true losers yesterday

I don't even want to talk about this game. Srsly, can we just pretend we're on bye this week till sunday after the game? I have a feeling i'll be doing a lot of quiet facepalming in my chair next sunday, punctuated by a few sighs of disbelief.

13 - Packers?

1. Kerry Collins

3. Browns lead 22-12

5. Tom Tupa

6. Eric Metcalf

12C Jamir Miller