http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/29/exclusive-donald-trump-rights-ship-on-immigration-demands-disney-rehire-workers-replaced-by-cheap-foreign-labor-calls-rubio-silicon-valleys-puppet/

I agree with his view point, but I don't understand why he gaffed on it at the debate.

@bbedward said:

"I didn't have any involvement with them" ? His involvement is more than he represented.

Clearly the first 10 years do not count...

@diehardbrownsfan said:

What kudos, for what? Being an asshole?

@jbluhm86 said:

What kudos, for what? Being an asshole?

@calfoxwc said:

The guy lied about his involvement, end of story. It's much more extensive than a few speeches and it isn't "propaganda"

He didn't lie. Do you know what a lie is? He TOLD THEM he did a few speeches, and did commercials for the product.

You think he can control the number of times his commercials ran?

Sounds like you are the liar. Look up the word "liar"...and show us where he deliberately misrepresented the truth.

"I didn't have any involvement with them" ? His involvement is more than he represented.

I'm wondering what you like so much about Carson, aside from his religious views and demeanor.

He didn't lie. Do you know what a lie is? He TOLD THEM he did a few speeches, and did commercials for the product.

You think he can control the number of times his commercials ran?

Sounds like you are the liar. Look up the word "liar"...and show us where he deliberately misrepresented the truth.

@sadbrownsfan said:

A little laugh for ya

The sad thing is, those are probably more informative than the actual debates. Still, pretty hilarious. Kudos.

If people want to take some homeopathic remedies i'm all for it, I know people who benefitted from them. Maybe their physiologies are different. For a famous neurosurgeon though to lend the product his explicit approval through speeches he gave on behalf of the company....implies that the product has some sort of medical standing. There's nothing "emotional" or "knee jerky" about questioning the ethics of that.

If Carson took the product and told people that it worked for him but told people this product was in no way shape or form vetted by medical research....than fine.

@calfoxwc said:

No, my involvement was with my product, and I endorse it fully.

It doesn't mean I have a relationship with the entire existence of the company itself.

You would have endorsed your product (your car), as being worthy of being sold...

You guys are trying way, way to hard to justify the emotional antagonistic knee jerky about conservatives.

"You guys are trying way, way too hard to justify the emotional, antagonistic knee jerky (?) about conservatives".

@calfoxwc said:

The guy lied about his involvement, end of story. It's much more extensive than a few speeches and it isn't "propaganda"

I said I don't think it's that big of a deal, it only started from highlighting it as a debate moment. All the people who like Carson despite his million other problems won't be affected by this in the slightest.

@calfoxwc said:

who are you talking to? I am cleve.

It doesn't mean I have a relationship with the entire existence of the company itself.

You would have endorsed your product (your car), as being worthy of being sold...

You guys are trying way, way to hard to justify the emotional antagonistic knee jerky about conservatives.

The issues with them were well documented, but Carson continued his affiliation with the company - that was the question.

Obviously, he was involved in the product he was taking side of it. He said he made a few speeches for them.

He believes in that product.

The product is highly controversial, because the company made claims prior to a 2009 settlement in Texas that it cured Autism and Cancer (Dr. Carson said himself in 2004 he considered using it as his personal cancer treatment, no surgery). Despite that, he continued to show up in promotional videos and endorse the product until he started his presidential campaign.

IOW's, when I wrote software for companies, I was involved with that company as a developer.

Now, that does not mean in any way that I had a direct relationship with the entire company.

Better yet, you sell a car to a guy you don't know. The guy is an excon rapist... you have a relationship with the guy? You guilty by association...

These analogies are inaccurate.

Dr. Carson is endorsing a specific product that has made claims to cure Autism and Cancer (it doesn't). More of a Dr. Oz type of move, really.

The controversy is with the specific product. The company has other issues (like being a pyramid scheme) that Carson is not being questioned about.

Obviously, he was involved in the product he was taking side of it. He said he made a few speeches for them.

He believes in that product.

IOW's, when I wrote software for companies, I was involved with that company as a developer.

Now, that does not mean in any way that I had a direct relationship with the entire company.

Better yet, you sell a car to a guy you don't know. The guy is an excon rapist... you have a relationship with the guy? You guilty by association...

Or, you just sold him a car?

You're being too much like Cleve now, trying to implement your bigotry with

nonsense claims, and misuse of words and definitions.

@calfoxwc said:

Cal you keep making irrational emotional based deflections and defensive statements based on political ideology. If you can't see that making speeches for a product and acknowledging he takes the product, is an explicit endorsement of the produt....than you are deliberately wearing a political blindfold with your eyes tightly shut.

Quintanilla: There’s a company called Mannatech, a maker of nutritional supplements, with which you had a ten-year relationship. They offered claims that they could cure autism, cancer. They paid $7 million dollars to settle a deceptive marketing lawsuit in Texas, and yet your involvement continued. Why?

Carson: Well, it’s easy to answer. I didn’t have an involvement with them. That is total propaganda and this is what happens in our society. Total propaganda. I did a couple of speeches for them, I did speeches for other people, they were paid speeches, it is absolutely absurd to say that I had any kind of relationship with them. Do I take the product? Yes. I think it’s a good product.

Well because this moment of the debate was brought up, it's worth calling Carson out on his nonsense. Forget the garbage tax plan, health care plan, crazy foreign policy ideas, ludicrous statements, and selective-reject of the scientific method.

1.) He did earn money from paid speeches - that part was correct

2.) He appeared in that 2013 commercial which was AFTER the $7M texas law suit, endorsing Mannatech

3.) It was sort of funny to see him give it an endorsement after saying he had "no involvement"

4.) In 2004 he said after taking it, his Prostate cancer symptoms went away and he considered treating the cancer with supplements only, instead of surgery

5.) Until earlier this year he was in several pictures and videos on the manntech website - now removed (A la his campaign realized this isn't a good affiliation to have)

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/29/ben-carson/debate-ben-carson-says-he-has-no-connection-mannat/

But you're right, Ben Carson didn't have involvement with them

based on political bigotry.

Carson said he make speeches for them about that product he likes, and does take.

But as far as having a major relationship with them overall...

it you can't see the difference, it's because you deliberately are wearing political blindfolds

with your eyes tightly shut.

@clevfan4life said:

Didn't the moderator than come back to the topic and say she found it on his own website?

Yes, but she should have had the source in front of her when she asked the question - not come back to it later on.

I actually agreed with the stance on H1B's that was on his website mostly, but maybe because many of them are in my type of field and drive down labor costs and take money they make out of the economy to wherever they come from. Limiting the amount of H1B's is probably a good thing but now nobody knows where Trump stands on it.

@clevfan4life said:

She did but I thought it was too late at that point. She should have been ready to confront Trump at the time he denied it. She missed the moment by not being prepared and then making an unnecessary apology.

@oldbrownsfan said:

Didn't the moderator than come back to the topic and say she found it on his own website?

This infomercial might fall under what Carson admitted to having done some paid speeches for this company.

Apparently the pills don't help with memory, since he starred in a commercial for them.