<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>My apology in advance for the length.  As we've discussed in here, there weren't many people (sportswriters and media in particular) outside of Cleveland that felt we had QBs here that could keep us competitive in 2015. Bastards! So far, the QBs haven't been the reason <em>"the Captain wired in he had water coming and the good ship and crew was in peril."</em></p>

<p>That said, if you look at either of our QBs in comparison to their forgettable 2014 - what do you see?   2 much improved QBs that compete especially if they get support from the defense and special teams. For example, we beat TN by double digits when our defense swarmed the QB and Benjamin returned a punt for a TD.  All we needed from our QB was a couple TD passes and good decisions throwing the ball to the extent we only needed 8 completions.  If that's a bad example, look at Peyton Manning the day McCown outplayed him enough to get us into overtime.  Dansby caught as many TD passes from Manning as any of Manning's receivers but that game boiled down to what defense was going to be good enough to win.  It was the defense good enough to remain undefeated which would also repeat history against Aaron Rodgers' previously unbeaten team.</p>

<p>I don't know if anyone heard this when we played Arizona; but it was said McCown was ranked #1 on 3rd down efficiency or passer ratings in 2015 so far. He spreads the ball around well with TE Gary Barnidge is enjoying a career best season. Both of our QBs are responsible for the best numbers Travis Benjamin has put together. Meanwhile, they're also hooking up with a rookie RB Duke Johnson. They're pretty much tapping anything that can be while Phil Simms gave a politically correct BINGO of the value of knee-high WRs today.  We look like a very stupid football team when we tell a guy like Willie Snead he's not good enough to play in the same WR Corps that led the AFC in dropped passes for 2 straight years.  Now, we're sentenced to watching Dwayne Bowe and Taylor Gabriel when Josh Lenz was told he wasn't good enough for the NFL version of minimum wage here.  We deserve better than this and so does whoever volunteers to play QB. As much as Hartline's 2 TD receptions helped us vrs Arizona, his 3 second half drops serial killed drives against a first place team.  Do I blame the QB that put the ball in his hands? </p>

<p>Our defense had it's moments in 2014 (even around where they ranked vrs the run) when they were removing the stench of the 4-12 train-wreck from 2013 so it was reasonable to expect more growth and progress this year.  Unfortunately, when we were edging our way back into the Cincy game - our defense morphed from bend don't break to break don't shatter mentality. How long has Randy Starks played in the NFL?  And he doesn't understand how to line up a couple feet away from the ball without being way off sides?  Another time he makes a nice tackle for a loss; but instead of putting Cincy 2nd and 15 - the same hollow dome gets flagged for taunting giving Cincy 15 yards and a first down.  We're already challenged on that side of the ball so adding WunDumPhuck is like giving Jason Pierre Paul a box of matches with some unlit fireworks and wondering who gets the finger. Halftime should have been 10-10. Instead, Starks' actions said if you can't beat us - don't worry about it, I'll beat us for you.</p>

<p>Half 2, when CLEVELAND's version of Pro Football WR is a knee high Taylor Gabriel dropping passes and hearing foot steps since his traumatic experience in St Louis (like Hartline did 3 times the week before) - we're serial killing drives against GOOD defenses. Dumping salt in wound, Cincy ain't undefeated by accident so they responded with drives punctuated by TDs while time of possession tired who's legs? </p>

<p>Believe it or not, I thought our line pass protected reasonably well in both halves Thursday. BUT you can't false start when you're playing good teams if you want to make 3rd downs doable for an inexperienced QB.  It leaves your 4 start old QB (at 22 years of age) scrambling for about 12.5 yards when we needed 13 especially when an alternative like Gabriel in route (is still hearing footsteps from his traumatic experience in St Louis) so he wasn't going to catch anything while Benjamin and Barnidge were drawing more attention. There were plenty of throw-aways that would have been sacks or INTs from the 2014 version of Manziel, which was only a couple starts ago and 1 playbook removed (even if this was the 1st playbook Manziel actually looked at). People are going to choose to see what they want to see with Manziel. The critics that made predictions he'd suck are going to pretend Cincy was winless and he had all kinds of easy street on their televisions he just couldn't tap. How many points did Pittsburgh's full strength passing game light Cincy up for last week anyway?   It's amazing how much a team's defense has a say in whether you stand a chance of beating an undefeated opponent or just the Tennessee Titans. This is the margin of error I speak of when I see a 32nd ranked defense vrs the run (plus all their 2nd half flat lines) being more the reason McCown only sports a 1-6 record in one of the best stretches of his career. </p>

<p>Every time our offense doesn't score - we can't be the second half defense we saw vrs Arizona and Cincy. Interestingly enough, the team Andrew Hawkins came from - has the following targets fetching passes today while their QB enjoys his best season:</p>
<p>Sanu 6'2"</p>
<p>Green 6'4"</p>
<p>Jones 6'2"</p>
<p>Tate 6'1"</p>
<p>Eifert 6'6"  </p>

<p>It would be nice if somebody we're counting on for personnel decisions this side of 1999, above and beyond our 8 TD receptions from the WR Corps in 2014, was understanding what was behind the knockout blows from our divisional rivals. More access to a better catch radius isn't the only thing helping Dalton. How about guys being able to get off the line of scrimmage consistently while remaining easy to see for their QB?   Does Dalton ever have to throw a pass downward to any of these guys? If we gave McCown more than Barnidge and Benjamin to throw to - would he be nearly as beat up holding onto the ball while defenses double those guys or attempt to jam them more at the line of scrimmage or both? </p>

<p>Hollywood even made a movie about the draft (Draft Day?) and its pertinence to the Cleveland Browns almost as if Heaven above was giving our front office in chaos unavoidable clues like:  <em>"Is there really a QB who's character doesn't have the owner/GM/HC all in unison on his first round spot?"  </em>Love Manziel or hate him - he didn't draft himself folks. And what about this one?  <em>"Is there really a LBer named Mack that needs to be strongly considered that played college ball so close by that you couldn't miss multiple great performances?" </em> In the movie Mack played for Ohio State which is pretty close to Cleveland but in reality the University of Buffalo is only about a 3 hour car ride from Cleveland (as well as the reality they play a few Ohio schools in the MAC). The irony of it all is Mack had a terrific performance against Ohio State to the extent any team needing massive upgrades at LBer should have been put on alert there's a game changer that could be on their door step.  Oakland landed Mack and a QB investment they were willing to nourish with helpful tools like Amari Cooper and Michael Crabtree (just 1 year later).</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/topic/38580/margin-of-error-supersedes-improved-qb-play-here</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 13:29:33 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://brownsboard.com/topic/38580.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2015 16:46:28 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Thu, 12 Nov 2015 17:02:45 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Ravel can also be a big tangled knot, so 'unravelling' would be sorting that out. And you can presumably ravel a ravel.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/548285</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/548285</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[gftChris]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 17:02:45 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:58:50 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/548237">said</a>:</p><div><p>Pretty sure for that to be true it'll have to ravel first.</p></div></blockquote>

<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/548278">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>lol... nope, did not know that.</p>

<p>However the word "superfluous" comes to mind...</p>

<p>Also the word "nerd"... as in "a person that would look up 'ravel'."</p>
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<p>Ha!....pretty true there....Im pretty nerdy when it comes to researching my facts, thats for sure.....</p>

<p>Saw Marks quote yesterday and thought exactly what you posted....gotta ravel to unravel.....then I thought Ravel???....is there such a word???......cause Ive never heard it.....so I looked it up.....and waaalaaa......ravel means unravel....</p>

<p>And, in respect to Johnny....both of your statements are now spot on....<img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=d06dc7f09bc" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/548282</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/548282</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mudfly]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:58:50 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:51:00 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>lol... nope, did not know that.</p>

<p>
However the word "superfluous" comes to mind...</p>

<p>
Also the word "nerd"... as in "a person that would look up 'ravel'."</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/548278</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/548278</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:51:00 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Thu, 12 Nov 2015 15:19:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/548237">said</a>:</p><div><p>Pretty sure for that to be true it'll have to ravel first.</p></div></blockquote>
<p>Ironically.....ravel means to unravel.....never knew that.....weird, eh?</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/548243</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/548243</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mudfly]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 15:19:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Thu, 12 Nov 2015 15:13:49 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/mark-o" aria-label="Profile: mark-o">@<bdi>mark-o</bdi></a> <a href="/post/548045">said</a>:</p><p>Unfold?  Dont you mean unravel?</p></blockquote>
<p>
Pretty sure for that to be true it'll have to ravel first.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/548237</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/548237</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 15:13:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Thu, 12 Nov 2015 00:03:14 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>This is a good post. I do agree. Receivers over 5'8" would have helped. I look at all we passed on and cringe. Good post though. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/548084</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/548084</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Opal312]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 00:03:14 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:55:24 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Zombo <a href="/post/548026">said</a>:</p><div>


<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>Maybe ripping on Johnny is what you find insulting. As we watch his career<u><em> unfold</em></u> ... you're going to need to get over that.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>Zombo</strong></span></p>
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<p>Unfold?  Dont you mean unravel? </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/548045</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/548045</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark O]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:55:24 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:21:12 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/texasag1969" aria-label="Profile: texasag1969">@<bdi>texasag1969</bdi></a> <a href="/post/547985">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>Just you Z, just you.   LOL   <img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f61b.png?v=d06dc7f09bc" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--stuck_out_tongue" title=":stuck_out_tongue:" alt="😛" />  OH, and the horse you rode in on too.  <img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f601.png?v=d06dc7f09bc" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--grin" title=":grin:" alt="😁" /></p>

<p>I came back and decided not to take any of your insults seriously. Nice try though.</p>
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<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>I don't think there were any insults in there. I said you were a fan of the Broncos (true?) and you bitch about the Browns (true).</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>Maybe ripping on Johnny is what you find insulting. As we watch his career unfold ... you're going to need to get over that.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>Zombo</strong></span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/548026</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/548026</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Zombo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:21:12 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Wed, 11 Nov 2015 18:04:28 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Zombo <a href="/post/547492">said</a>:</p><div>


<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>The perfect recipe for a bottom dweller is drafting Johnny Dipstick in the first round.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>I see he was down in Texas partying with coeds this past weekend while McCown was in the training room and watching film.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>You've admitted you are a Denver fan, yet all you do is bitch about the Browns.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>We have enough Browns fans bitching on here we don't outsiders teeing off on us.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>We're going to whip the shit out of Pittsburgh and get this thing moving, and I don't know what you guys are going to have to bitch about for the rest of the season.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>Zombo</strong></span></p>
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<p>Just you Z, just you.   LOL   <img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f61b.png?v=d06dc7f09bc" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--stuck_out_tongue" title=":stuck_out_tongue:" alt="😛" />  OH, and the horse you rode in on too.  <img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f601.png?v=d06dc7f09bc" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--grin" title=":grin:" alt="😁" /></p>

<p>I came back and decided not to take any of your insults seriously. Nice try though.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/547985</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/547985</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[TexasAg1969]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 18:04:28 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Tue, 10 Nov 2015 18:17:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/gftchris" aria-label="Profile: gftchris">@<bdi>gftchris</bdi></a> <a href="/post/547480">said</a>:</p><p>Keeping Austin over Bowe should have been a no-brainer in hindsight.</p></blockquote>
<p>
Hindsight? As one of my few examples of foresight, I shall not be denied... Good Day, Sir!</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/547628</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/547628</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2015 18:17:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Tue, 10 Nov 2015 13:35:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/texasag1969" aria-label="Profile: texasag1969">@<bdi>texasag1969</bdi></a> <a href="/post/547485">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>Actually it invited players to question the competence of those making these kinds of decision. And it had more to do with foresight than hindsight. It has become quite obvious that whomever Farmer wants to blame, whether it be he or his "committee", has no inkling of the impact of premier WR's, not just in the passing game, but in the running game as well. If you can't get the front 7 concerned about stopping the passing game it gives them free reign to crunch your running game into 2 yards and a cloud of losing. Add to that a D that can't stop anything on the edge and often up the middle, then you have the perfect recipe for continued bottom dweller. And when are they going to put Shelton on a good strength &amp; conditioning program. He either needs to drop 30 lbs of slowing flab or turn it into something a lot more effective. </p>

<p>Sorry-I'm just disgusted with this "pro" staff at all levels.</p>
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<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>The perfect recipe for a bottom dweller is drafting Johnny Dipstick in the first round.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>I see he was down in Texas partying with coeds this past weekend while McCown was in the training room and watching film.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>You've admitted you are a Denver fan, yet all you do is bitch about the Browns.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>We have enough Browns fans bitching on here we don't outsiders teeing off on us.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>We're going to whip the shit out of Pittsburgh and get this thing moving, and I don't know what you guys are going to have to bitch about for the rest of the season.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>Zombo</strong></span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/547492</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/547492</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Zombo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2015 13:35:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Tue, 10 Nov 2015 13:02:42 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Actually it invited players to question the competence of those making these kinds of decision. And it had more to do with foresight than hindsight. It has become quite obvious that whomever Farmer wants to blame, whether it be he or his "committee", has no inkling of the impact of premier WR's, not just in the passing game, but in the running game as well. If you can't get the front 7 concerned about stopping the passing game it gives them free reign to crunch your running game into 2 yards and a cloud of losing. Add to that a D that can't stop anything on the edge and often up the middle, then you have the perfect recipe for continued bottom dweller. And when are they going to put Shelton on a good strength &amp; conditioning program. He either needs to drop 30 lbs of slowing flab or turn it into something a lot more effective. </p>

<p>Sorry-I'm just disgusted with this "pro" staff at all levels.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/547485</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/547485</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[TexasAg1969]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2015 13:02:42 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Tue, 10 Nov 2015 11:00:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/546693">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>But why not keep a 6'3 Miles Austin who proved to be a serviceable, go-to guy in 2014? Not to mention that he was a good bit cheaper than Bowe.</p>


<p>As for Evans... his 24 receptions would fit right in...</p>
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<p>Keeping Austin over Bowe should have been a no-brainer in hindsight.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/547480</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/547480</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[gftChris]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2015 11:00:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Mon, 09 Nov 2015 03:03:57 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tim-couch-pulls-out" aria-label="Profile: tim-couch-pulls-out">@<bdi>tim-couch-pulls-out</bdi></a> <a href="/post/546992">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>You.</p>

<p>Just couldn't really glean how you felt on our receiver size. I agree with your overall points.</p>
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<p>Speaking of which in case I missed it's posting: <a href="http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/11/cleveland_browns_must_change_t.html" rel="external nofollow">http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/11/cleveland_browns_must_change_t.html</a></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/547022</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/547022</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[TexasAg1969]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2015 03:03:57 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Mon, 09 Nov 2015 01:25:48 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/flugel" aria-label="Profile: flugel">@<bdi>flugel</bdi></a> <a href="/post/546796">said</a>:</p>

<p>Who are you asking that question to?  My thesis to promote a balanced attack in the red zone is more size on the perimeter.  That said, I was hoping we'd aim higher than garage sale choices no-one else was interested only to overpay dearly for them.</p>

<p>Why did Miami phase Hartline out?  upside in rear view mirror unless our first 8 games showed someone else otherwise.  When was the last time Dwayne Bowe posted numbers an NFL team should be interested in?  Upside parked 2-3 years ago.  What round of the did we prioritize WR help in?  So we landed a guy with a 2 year football resume with more questions about his hands than those in charge of our draft were willing to ask.</p>

<p>Lenz is 6'1" with an agenda to prove himself so we cut that and kept a lazy 9 million $ entitlement.  Good message to the players or bad message?  3 different vets spoke up about this cut - which doesn't appear to be promoting quite the same <em>"play like a Brown"</em> last year did. If anything, it invited players questioning the sincerity of it all from above.</p>
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<p>You.</p>

<p>Just couldn't really glean how you felt on our receiver size. I agree with your overall points.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/546992</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/546992</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Couch Pulls Out]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2015 01:25:48 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Sun, 08 Nov 2015 22:31:05 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Receptions divided by targets?</p>


<p>
Outsiders has a really neat 2014 break down including uncatchable targets with them even broken down more... overthrows, underthrows, defensed, etc. The Defensed part is interesting.</p>

<p>
<a href="http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2015/2014-incomplete-pass-breakdown-receivers" rel="external nofollow">http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2015/2014-incomplete-pass-breakdown-receivers</a></p>

<p>
Last bit is a drops chart and Miles was the 2nd highest 2014 Brown at 5.6% behind only Gabe at 6.9%...</p>
<p>
But here's the funny thing... new addition Hart (6.3%) and Bowe (7.4%) were both worse than Miles.</p>

<p>
Miles and Gabe had two of the lowest defensed rates among WRs with 50 or more targets. There is a lot to chew on in that article.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/546923</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/546923</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2015 22:31:05 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Sun, 08 Nov 2015 15:40:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/letsgojackets" aria-label="Profile: letsgojackets">@<bdi>letsgojackets</bdi></a> <a href="/post/546774">said</a>:</p><div><p>Didn't Miles drop a lot of balls though. I can recall a few big ones.</p></div></blockquote>
<p>He dropped a few, but no more than any of our other receivers....in fact, he had the highest catch % on the team...</p>

<p>Austin 70%</p>
<p>Benji 39%</p>
<p>Gabe 53%</p>
<p>Hawk 63%</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/546801</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/546801</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mudfly]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2015 15:40:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Sun, 08 Nov 2015 15:34:33 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/mudfly" aria-label="Profile: mudfly">@<bdi>mudfly</bdi></a> <a href="/post/546736">said</a>:</p><div><p>Was asking the same....but never did figure that one out.....</p></div></blockquote>

<p>I agree, I thought Tour made a great point about keeping Miles Austin for less on the dollar.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/546797</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/546797</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Flugel]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2015 15:34:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Sun, 08 Nov 2015 15:32:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tim-couch-pulls-out" aria-label="Profile: tim-couch-pulls-out">@<bdi>tim-couch-pulls-out</bdi></a> <a href="/post/546730">said</a>:</p><div><p>Is this supposed to be pro or anti tall receivers? I'm a little confused.</p></div></blockquote>

<p>Who are you asking that question to?  My thesis to promote a balanced attack in the red zone is more size on the perimeter.  That said, I was hoping we'd aim higher than garage sale choices no-one else was interested only to overpay dearly for them.</p>

<p>Why did Miami phase Hartline out?  upside in rear view mirror unless our first 8 games showed someone else otherwise.  When was the last time Dwayne Bowe posted numbers an NFL team should be interested in?  Upside parked 2-3 years ago.  What round of the did we prioritize WR help in?  So we landed a guy with a 2 year football resume with more questions about his hands than those in charge of our draft were willing to ask.</p>

<p>Lenz is 6'1" with an agenda to prove himself so we cut that and kept a lazy 9 million $ entitlement.  Good message to the players or bad message?  3 different vets spoke up about this cut - which doesn't appear to be promoting quite the same <em>"play like a Brown"</em> last year did. If anything, it invited players questioning the sincerity of it all from above.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/546796</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/546796</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Flugel]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2015 15:32:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Sun, 08 Nov 2015 14:50:10 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/mudfly" aria-label="Profile: mudfly">@<bdi>mudfly</bdi></a> <a href="/post/546736">said</a>:</p><div><p>Was asking the same....but never did figure that one out.....</p></div></blockquote>
<p>Didn't Miles drop a lot of balls though. I can recall a few big ones.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/546774</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/546774</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[letsgojackets]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2015 14:50:10 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Sun, 08 Nov 2015 13:18:56 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/546693">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>But why not keep a 6'3 Miles Austin who proved to be a serviceable, go-to guy in 2014? Not to mention that he was a good bit cheaper than Bowe.</p>



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<p>Was asking the same....but never did figure that one out.....</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/546736</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/546736</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mudfly]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2015 13:18:56 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Sun, 08 Nov 2015 06:43:25 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Is this supposed to be pro or anti tall receivers? I'm a little confused.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/546730</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/546730</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Couch Pulls Out]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2015 06:43:25 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Sun, 08 Nov 2015 05:45:43 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>It's stats. They looked at Gilbert and saw stats in college,</p>
<p>against guys who weren't often NFL caliber.</p>

<p>I have to believe guys know how to tackle, but they don't - </p>
<p>they don't love the game enough.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/546726</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/546726</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[calfoxwc]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2015 05:45:43 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Margin of Error Supersedes Improved QB Play Here on Sun, 08 Nov 2015 05:09:00 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/546693">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>But why not keep a 6'3 Miles Austin who proved to be a serviceable, go-to guy in 2014? Not to mention that he was a good bit cheaper than Bowe.</p>


<p>As for Evans... his 24 receptions would fit right in...</p>
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<p>Good points.  We've had some really crappy WR Corps here since 1999 that haven't helped the QBs out very much.  That being the case, how is it we're deeming guys Lance Moore, Willie Snead and most recently, Josh Lenz as not up to snuff.  Even more outrageous is why did we draft a guy like Greg Little thinking we'll just teach him how to catch and coach him up. The teams always bettering us in the standings never had to teach professionals like Antonio Brown, AJ Green, and Anquan Boldin how to catch. </p>

<p>Here's another thing about those doing our drafting, draft BETTER tacklers. Nobody had to teach Eric Turner, Lawrence Taylor, JJ Watt, Reggie White, Carl Banks, Mike Singletary, Kikko Alonso, Sean Lee, Ronnie Lott, Jerry Sherk, Clay Matthews, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed or T. Suggs how to tackle.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/546720</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/546720</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Flugel]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2015 05:09:00 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>