@tour2ma said:

As Pet said after Zona beat down on Josh. "Josh knows if he is hurt to go down on Field" Josh got that message from a podium imo. Down went Drago!!

@the-cysko-kid said:

NO his team loses. All but about 1 loss can 've accredited to the team not the qb. By yourshitty logic Joe Thomas may be the biggest LOSER in the NFL and we shoulda kept Hoyer.

@tour2ma said:

T it has just been so damn frustrating trying to stick up for Pet when this kind of shit keeps happening. wash rinse repeat will never work. There our team doctors there. There is league doctors on sidelines to stop this from happening is what the NFL is selling but none of them give a shit about the player. (our cleat guy can't even do his job) Personally as a teammate I would be pist when you activate 2 more QB's than send in the 3rd with any shoulder issue on his throwing arm when were down 7 with time. Yes Josh has the heart of a lion but you tell him 52 other players say no they got this. This team is mismanaged in far to many ways when every thing has to be discussed as a group with above.

@tour2ma said:

Wasn't like the bone was sticking out of his skin. There are breaks and then there are breaks.

Word is Josh suffered a "non-displaced" fracture...

In a non-displaced fracture, the bone cracks either part or all of the way through, but does move and maintains its proper alignment.

Props to Pettine for sticking to his word, but I fucking hated getting beat by the ravens, especially like that.. fucking a....

@gumby73 said:

Something just smells really brown when a guy has a broken collarbone & finds his way back on the field. At 2;20 left in 3rd he falls on throwing shoulder. Shown trying to rise it on bench. Ravens drive from our 1 to kick FG to go up 7. At 9;05 left in 4th we decide on a broken collarbone QB. 1 out to M. Johnson. Next pass on a 20 yard out to Benji (10 yards over his head) Josh is done & on ground untouched. Pets presser should be good if you can break a collarbone throwing 2 passes. 53 players would rather not play a broken collarbone QB after crunch time of a bone that throws. Ridiculous!!

Wasn't like the bone was sticking out of his skin. There are breaks and then there are breaks. Josh threw on the sideline, but was not until he tried to rip that out to Benji that he knew it was not just pain, that he was injured.

And Josh went down to give Davis time to warm up...

Other QBs out there perhaps for Browns to pick up:

Jason Campbell

Matt Flynn

Tavaris Jackson

Tyler Thigpen.

@cdl15 said:

LOL. they wouldn't even have to do it on purpose- they do a pretty good job of it even when they're trying.

In all seriousness (well the above statement might be serious) Josh had a great season for us - bright spot in crappy season.

@cdl15 said:

Kinda like John and yourself minus the lovable part.

And seriously if you're going to call a guy loser based on his record then the brown should have never gotten rid of Brian Hoyer who has his second straight team in a playoff chase after a year of nothing

"we need to see what we have...."

and start Davis. though, I still can't believe

he slid and went down inbounds...........

@jiggins7919 said:

So now the question is...who starts for us next week? Still five games to go. Austin Davis was thrust into a very difficult position, and for the most part, did very well. He threw one pass that really should've been picked off, but the Ravens have dropped basically every interception this year. Davis was also the victim of some horrific play calling, and we aren't going to delve into the clock management again. He only had a few drives, but if I had to guess, Austin Davis will be starting the next game for us.

The name Matt Schaub ring a bell? And that was for an entire game!

I wouldn't get too excited because often a second or third string quarterback looks good for a few series near the end of a game.

At least the penalties weren't as horrendous as usual. But we still lost to one of the worst teams in the league on our home field.

WSS

@jiggins7919 said:

Well....this question will be all the rage this week....eh?

If it was me, Id start Johnny....for 2 reasons.....

1) He's has his punishment and public shaming now, so get him back in there and lets see what we all were planning to see....

2) He's more experienced AND mobile, so is "less likely" to get hurt....While Austin is green and less aware, which might get him slammed, leaving us without a QB.....so I say Johnny has the better chance to survive these last few games......alive.....

@cdl15 said:

I start John against the Seahawks and let the oline deliver a message The Longest Yard style.

They just delivered that message to Josh McCown.

WSS

@the-cysko-kid said:

Kinda like John and yourself minus the lovable part.

And seriously if you're going to call a guy loser based on his record then the brown should have never gotten rid of Brian Hoyer who has his second straight team in a playoff chase after a year of nothing