@hoorta said:

@the-gipper said:

Yes it is Gip- go find an instance where it's happened. When you waive a player, he's gone, and up for grabs by all the other 31 teams. If he clears waivers, he's a FA, and can sign with any team. See: Pryor, Terrell.

@westside-steve said:

On a similar note he can't really talk to Nick Saban or Jon Gruden until after the Super Bowl, or can he?

WSS

As was pointed out- during the season, NFL teams are only restricted talking to people under contract with another NFL team.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Are you serious or are you fucking with me?

Gip just hates to be proven wrong. We can't trade Johnny until March 15th, though there could be a deal in principle made long before that.

2016 significant dates:

January 17: Playoff teams' assistant coaches can be interviewed for head coaching positions until the end of divisional playoff games.

January 18: Deadline for underclassmen to enter the draft.

January 23: East-West Shrine Game, Tropicana Field, St. Petersburg, Florida.

January 24: Conference championship games.

January 30: Senior Bowl, Ladd-Peebles Stadium, Mobile, Alabama.

January 31: NFL Pro Bowl, Aloha Stadium, Honolulu, Hawaii. Assistant coaches participating in the Super Bowl can have a second interview for a head coaching job prior to the Super Bowl.

February 7: Super Bowl 50, Levi's Stadium, Santa Clara, California.

February 22: Franchise tag period starts

February 23-29: NFL Scouting Combine, Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis, Indiana

March 7: Franchise tag deadline, 4:00 p.m. ET.

March 12-15: Free agency negotiating period, starts noon ET. No contracts can be executed yet.

March 15: League Year and Free Agency Period begin at 4:00 p.m. ET, allowing teams to sign unrestricted free agents. Trading period begins.

@the-gipper said:

Are you serious or are you fucking with me?

@gftchris said:

Steve, you'd obviously put it in a brown paper bag in a nearby trash can.

If the Tellie (sp?) is small enough for that, no one would steal it in the first place...

Ive read, read and read somemore and cannot find a single source that states you can trade after the deadline, though Ive found multiple(every) sources that say no trades after the deadline.....think you're fighting a losing battle and for what?

"".......the waiver period lasts 24 hours and all waivers are categorized as “no recall” and “no withdrawal,” which means once a club waives a player, it cannot take the player back or change the player’s status"""

@tour2ma said:

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Not sure where you are seeing the "Not" in that statement. Are you Wayne's World or something?

@gftchris said:

Steve, you'd obviously put it in a brown paper bag in a nearby trash can.

You Brits are so naive. That's where the neighborhood crack dealer puts his drops.

How embarrassing would it be to mix those two up?

WSS

@westside-steve said:

Steve, you'd obviously put it in a brown paper bag in a nearby trash can.

WSS

@tour2ma said:

Only way it'll happen is if it's between #1 and #2 on the waiver wire.

It's just hard to see a scenario where such a "deal" could make its way to the intended exchange.

Since the waiver route is only players, there is no ability to use pick(s) to balance the trade.

Finally add that once placed on waivers the player is not subject to recall and the end result is that no player of any value is going that route.

Aside: I seem to remember players being "recalled" from waivers quite a bit in the 60's. May have been around the old process of moving players from the roster to the "taxi squad".

@the-gipper said:

Its says that post trade deadline trades are allowed, but only via waivers.

I don't know about you....but allowed means allowed.

Usually, there is fairly little activity on this day and almost no star players are ever dealt to other clubs on the sixth week of the season. The early deadline, along with players having to learn a whole new system on the fly, along with the salary cap often makes it difficult to make blockbuster trades on this day, unlike most other sports. Post deadline trades are not allowed.

It's funny, because that's what I see.

@westside-steve said:

The owner can absolutely talk to those guys as far as I know They are not under contract with another NFL team, which is where the prohibition lies.

I do not believe there is a prohibition from talking to a guy about a future coaching job if he is under contract with a college or a network.

But, obviously the owner must tread lightly and perhaps engage in a little subterfuge....in order to not let rumors fly.

But....I guess that is too late in this case.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Its says that post trade deadline trades are allowed, but only via waivers.

I don't know about you....but allowed means allowed.

WSS

@the-gipper said:

It is true. That's how the NFL works - it's how it's worked for years.

The "source" you quoted was Wikipedia. Go check it again and tell me what it reads.

http://operations.nfl.com/updates/the-players/nfl-waiver-system-overview/

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Again, I don't believe that is true. The source I looked at said otherwise.

I think you can make a trade, but you must subject the players to the waiver wire. If no one makes a claim on any of the players, it can happen. If someone makes a claim then they can block the trade.

@the-gipper said:

What you are describing is just the waiver process. It is a "trade" insofar as the player does not reach free agency, but it's not a "trade" as the team giving up a player doesn't receive anything in return.

In the NFL, after the trade deadline is passed - any single player that is cut, regardless of how long they have been in the league, must clear waivers in order to be picked up by another team. This is a process to ensure fair competitive balance in the league.

At no point after week 8 can I give you a player and receive anything in return from you. All I can do is cut the player and send him to waivers.

So...no. They can't trade Manziel to Dallas right now. Not until draft day.

@deputydawg said:

Yes, Kerrville. Near San Antonio. My brother used to live there. (before JMZ was born)